[✌➬]

I was inspired to do this thread, by reading everyneurotic's rant over the mislabeling of Emo's.


I'll start.

Emo
80's Glam Rock
Hippies
Right-Wing
Left-Wing



That's it for now.

[Everyneurotic]

what about indie? have you seen hipsters?

my theory is that, once something grows out of thew original circle of friends/fans/admirers and on to something a third person wants to be a part of it without being close to it, it becomes a parody.

[demonrail666]

I think all scenes become parodies of themselves eventually. At least i can't think of one that hasn't.

[✌➬]

Oh yeah, I forgot about those.

Well yeah, that is proven fact. Just look at those who started hanging out at the Factory at the end. They where mostly junkies by the end. It is when it becomes hip do we see that happening. Don't worry, soon or eventually we will see the noise genre there. A sketch on MADTV.

[Everyneurotic]

now, there's scenes that become parodies but then revert it somehow by either: a) reformatting itself which brings us to square one or b) relocalizing it literally, by going back to something new. basically a combination of both a and b.

like say, garage rock, sure it's being a parody many times over already but sometimes it goes back to square one, like the 90's revival of guitar wolf and teengenerate, and becomes cool again.

noise is getting there, there's tons of people recording a microphone through a distortion pedal for an hour without any variation or artistry or some wolf eyes type dirge, releasing it on felt pen-written cd-rs and a xerox of a bdsm pic or a bloody car crash on editions of 500.

just look at american tapes and fag tapes and tell me it's not a parody already.

[!@#$%!]

i think it's of themselves

[uhler]

Originally Posted by Everyneurotic

now, there's scenes that become parodies but then revert it somehow by either: a) reformatting itself which brings us to square one or b) relocalizing it literally, by going back to something new. basically a combination of both a and b.

like say, garage rock, sure it's being a parody many times over already but sometimes it goes back to square one, like the 90's revival of guitar wolf and teengenerate, and becomes cool again.

noise is getting there, there's tons of people recording a microphone through a distortion pedal for an hour without any variation or artistry or some wolf eyes type dirge, releasing it on felt pen-written cd-rs and a xerox of a bdsm pic or a bloody car crash on editions of 500.

just look at american tapes and fag tapes and tell me it's not a parody already.

i agree, but the thing is, at least for me, i would rather listen to somebody making noise like you described more than lets say an emo band or even most new punk rock bands (punk bands that try to sound what people think is punk rock nowadays i mean) or most new bands period.

[Everyneurotic]

the question is: how much of a parody of a scene can you bear?

[pbradley]

I don't know how scene sensitive I am since I've never really been apart of one, at least consciously.

[uhler]

Originally Posted by Everyneurotic

the question is: how much of a parody of a scene can you bear?

i was apart of a hardcore (and to an extent since i had edge friends and i was edge, the straight edge scene), but once it became a parody of itself i stopped going to shows and just stopped listening to modern hardcore. i just couldn't stand it anymore, plus i was getting older (around 20, which is old for any hardcore scene really) and felt the 16 year old kids can just have it and once they turn my age they will realize the same thing i did.

[dionysusundone]

Goth and Industrial both around the mid-90s.
And that's being generous.

The supposed post-punk revival thing got really crap really quick.

Ska went WAY down the tubes.

[SpectralJulianIsNotDead]

Fuck scenes.

[█████████]

rob instigator self acclaimed masculinity?

[atsonicpark]

All scenes. Once a scene becomes established, you have the elitist all-knowing dickheads bragging they started the scene and you have a bunch of latcher-ons who don't know shit. Or something.I always make people I know in real life say "Scene kids" or "Hipsters" instead of "Emos" because it bothers me that "Emo" has been associated with... whatever the fuck it's been associated with now... I just want to listen to Sunny Day Real Estate!

[uhler]

Originally Posted by atsonicpark

All scenes. Once a scene becomes established, you have the elitist all-knowing dickheads bragging they started the scene and you have a bunch of latcher-ons who don't know shit. Or something.I always make people I know in real life say "Scene kids" or "Hipsters" instead of "Emos" because it bothers me that "Emo" has been associated with... whatever the fuck it's been associated with now... I just want to listen to Sunny Day Real Estate!

yeah when i listened to emo and had "emo kid" friends (the hardcore scene and emo scene went kind of hand in hand back then) they sure didn't listen to or look like what emo kids look like now. that's why i was confused when i first started to hear people call todays emo music emo. i was like NO IT'S NOT!

[atsonicpark]

Mmm ass fingering!

[pbradley]

Originally Posted by Kegmama

Oh, and in regard to the topic at hand, I automatically thought 'grunge'.

Runway parody comes more to my mind than self-parody with grunge but surely there must have been grunge posers, etc.

I was too young.

[Ciccone Warhol Monroe]

grunge did become a parody. i still like it.

[pbradley]

Originally Posted by Kegmama

Bastard. Are you calling me old?!

Are you calling yourself old?

[Death & the Maiden]

What about punk? With all those bands and their "uniforms" (mohawks, safety pins) and their calls for anarchy (I'm mainly thinking of The Exploited here).