terrrorist attack at gay pride youth center in tel aviv

fugazifan · 08.02.2009, 06:45 PM

so if nobody has heard this yet yesterday there was a brutal massacre at a youth center for homosexuals in tel aviv. three people were killed and over a dozen inured when a masked man entered with a machine gun and shot up the place.
its really terrible and i am in utter shock. its really devastating that these things can happen. its weird since we are so used to political terrorist attacks that when it is a hate crime it seems so out of the blue.
this also feels worse than a political terrorist attack, because i can always, even if i dont agree, ican see where the palestinian terrorist is coming from. but if you attack someone simply for trying to be themselves just seems like pure evil.
anywise
fuck humanity
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1104659.html
just a random article about it, the haaretz site, and almost any other site has plenty of information about it.

terriblecanyons · 08.02.2009, 07:00 PM

This makes me so sad. I'm a huge gay rights activist and this kind of shit makes me sick to my stomach.

phoenix · 08.02.2009, 08:01 PM

that's awful

GeneticKiss · 08.02.2009, 09:38 PM

I heard about this the other day...

It's a bit strange. Most hate killings seem to be backwoods affairs. An open assault in a major city is disturbingly out of character...

Anngella · 08.02.2009, 11:51 PM

Fucking appalling.

Lamont Cranston · 08.03.2009, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by fugazifan

so if nobody has heard this yet yesterday there was a brutal massacre at a youth center for homosexuals in tel aviv. three people were killed and over a dozen inured when a masked man entered with a machine gun and shot up the place.
its really terrible and i am in utter shock. its really devastating that these things can happen. its weird since we are so used to political terrorist attacks that when it is a hate crime it seems so out of the blue.
this also feels worse than a political terrorist attack, because i can always, even if i dont agree, ican see where the palestinian terrorist is coming from. but if you attack someone simply for trying to be themselves just seems like pure evil.
anywise
fuck humanity
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1104659.html
just a random article about it, the haaretz site, and almost any other site has plenty of information about it.

Just a taste of what they do to the Palestinians all the time.

_slavo_ · 08.03.2009, 02:20 AM

oh fuck, that's sad

Toilet & Bowels · 08.03.2009, 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by fugazifan

its weird since we are so used to political terrorist attacks that when it is a hate crime it seems so out of the blue.

!?!?!??!

fugazifan · 08.03.2009, 09:01 AM

i meant that when it has become routine (or at least it was a few years ago) that attacks have a political agenda, but when it is purely a hate crime it shocks us a lot more. if it was an arab killing jews then i wouldnt have been as shocked.

and lamont cranston what is that comment supposed to mean?

Rob Instigator · 08.03.2009, 09:02 AM

fucking terrible man.

people ain't safe nowhere.

floatingslowly · 08.03.2009, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by fugazifan

and lamont cranston what is that comment supposed to mean?

I think he means "yeah! that'll teach them gays for messin' with palestine!!!".

although, I'm not sure why.

fugazifan · 08.03.2009, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by floatingslowly

I think he means "yeah! that'll teach them gays for messin' with palestine!!!".

although, I'm not sure why.

yeah thats what i thought he said but it seemed like too much a ridiculous and sick thing to say that i gave him the benefit of the doubt that he meant something else....

ploesj · 08.03.2009, 11:54 AM

yeah i heard about it. truly awful.

MellySingsDoom · 08.03.2009, 02:13 PM

This is pretty crappy all round. Shooting people for being gay/lesbian? Hopefully the guy (and it sure is going to be a guy, isn't it?) will be caught and dealt with ASAP.

SpectralJulianIsNotDead · 08.03.2009, 02:54 PM

I think Lamont Cranston was talking more about the Palestinian and Israeli relations. Pointing out the horrors that the Palestinians deal with at the hands of the Israelis are similar. Not that anyone deserves it, but it's all just fucking hell.

Stay safe Fugazifan. It has to be a bit harrowing to live in the middle east.

pbradley · 08.03.2009, 03:00 PM

Things aren't easy for the gay and Jewish.

Moshe · 08.03.2009, 03:35 PM

^ Actually is not so hard. Tel Aviv is more liberal and open minded than most parts of the U.S.

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Originally Posted by SpectralJulianIsNotDead

Pointing out the horrors that the Palestinians deal with at the hands of the Israelis are similar.

Actually this murder resembled much more the horrors that innocent Israelis deal with at the hand of Palestinians.

pbradley · 08.03.2009, 03:41 PM

One thing that I've learned from civil rights movements is that the more legally tolerant a state is the more radical and violent the intolerant opposition becomes.

Lamont Cranston · 08.03.2009, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by fugazifan

i meant that when it has become routine (or at least it was a few years ago) that attacks have a political agenda, but when it is purely a hate crime it shocks us a lot more. if it was an arab killing jews then i wouldnt have been as shocked.

and lamont cranston what is that comment supposed to mean?

The state of Israel, and Jewish Settlers acting on their own (although with the Israeli police & IDF standing by not preventing them and only getting involved if there is a response-so are they really free agents?), do the same or far worse to Palestinians in the Gaza Strip & West Bank.

fugazifan · 08.03.2009, 06:04 PM

but what does that have to do with the gay kids? israel should get a taste of its own medicine? do these gay kids shoot up palestinian villages, or is this collective punishment. i would like to think that the civilains are seperate from the actions of their government.
thats like after 9/11 some israelis said that at least america will know what israel has to deal with.
i am about as left wing as they get, and especially as of recent have been risking a lot to help palestinians, but what you said is one of the most ignorant and sickest things that i have heard in a while. and i hope that you were just trying to be a prick and dont actually think that....

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fugazifan invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,816	so if nobody has heard this yet yesterday there was a brutal massacre at a youth center for homosexuals in tel aviv. three people were killed and over a dozen inured when a masked man entered with a machine gun and shot up the place. its really terrible and i am in utter shock. its really devastating that these things can happen. its weird since we are so used to political terrorist attacks that when it is a hate crime it seems so out of the blue. this also feels worse than a political terrorist attack, because i can always, even if i dont agree, ican see where the palestinian terrorist is coming from. but if you attack someone simply for trying to be themselves just seems like pure evil. anywise fuck humanity http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1104659.html just a random article about it, the haaretz site, and almost any other site has plenty of information about it. __________________ If there's been a way to build it, There'll be a way to destroy it, Things are not that out of control www.myspace.com/dellilahtheband www.myspace.com/lecirquedesvampiresmusic
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fugazifan invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,816	i meant that when it has become routine (or at least it was a few years ago) that attacks have a political agenda, but when it is purely a hate crime it shocks us a lot more. if it was an arab killing jews then i wouldnt have been as shocked. and lamont cranston what is that comment supposed to mean? __________________ If there's been a way to build it, There'll be a way to destroy it, Things are not that out of control www.myspace.com/dellilahtheband www.myspace.com/lecirquedesvampiresmusic
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Rob Instigator invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: In the land of the Instigator Posts: 27,975	fucking terrible man. people ain't safe nowhere. __________________ RXTT's Intellectual Journey - my new blog where I talk about all the books I read.
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MellySingsDoom invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 8,662	This is pretty crappy all round. Shooting people for being gay/lesbian? Hopefully the guy (and it sure is going to be a guy, isn't it?) will be caught and dealt with ASAP. __________________ Snow on Easter Sunday - Jesus Christ in reverse.
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SpectralJulianIsNotDead invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 7,409	I think Lamont Cranston was talking more about the Palestinian and Israeli relations. Pointing out the horrors that the Palestinians deal with at the hands of the Israelis are similar. Not that anyone deserves it, but it's all just fucking hell. Stay safe Fugazifan. It has to be a bit harrowing to live in the middle east.
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pbradley invito al cielo Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: SoKo Posts: 10,621	Things aren't easy for the gay and Jewish.
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fugazifan invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,816	but what does that have to do with the gay kids? israel should get a taste of its own medicine? do these gay kids shoot up palestinian villages, or is this collective punishment. i would like to think that the civilains are seperate from the actions of their government. thats like after 9/11 some israelis said that at least america will know what israel has to deal with. i am about as left wing as they get, and especially as of recent have been risking a lot to help palestinians, but what you said is one of the most ignorant and sickest things that i have heard in a while. and i hope that you were just trying to be a prick and dont actually think that.... __________________ If there's been a way to build it, There'll be a way to destroy it, Things are not that out of control www.myspace.com/dellilahtheband www.myspace.com/lecirquedesvampiresmusic
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