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Old 04.02.2008, 09:44 PM   #1
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Old 04.02.2008, 09:53 PM   #2
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Old 04.02.2008, 09:54 PM   #3
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Old 04.02.2008, 10:13 PM   #4
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Old 04.02.2008, 10:30 PM   #5
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holy shit it's hard to say

we haven't had the postmodern equivalent of leonardo yet

someone capable of, you know, colossal things-- there was joyce in literature (one could argue he's modern, but he heralded postmodernism with his infinite allusions), but anybody like that in art? such a... monster?

please name me one that fits the description.
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Old 04.02.2008, 10:35 PM   #6
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Old 04.02.2008, 10:46 PM   #7
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postmodernism is disgusting

well maybe but such are the times we live in. in other words, a contemporary artist cannot be replicating picasso, raphael, goya or what have you.

we have a different view of the world that has never previouly existed.
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Old 04.02.2008, 10:47 PM   #8
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aluminum foil nailed to a wall doesn't count as art, sorry.
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Old 04.02.2008, 10:48 PM   #9
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aluminum foil nailed to a wall doesn't count as art, sorry.

???

but this does

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Old 04.02.2008, 10:50 PM   #10
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someone had to put thought into that, it had to be designed by someone, so of course it does.

by the way i literally did see aluminum foil balled up and nailed to a wall in a gallery in paris.
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Old 04.02.2008, 10:51 PM   #11
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Old 04.02.2008, 10:52 PM   #12
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Old 04.02.2008, 10:55 PM   #13
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someone had to put thought into that, it had to be designed by someone, so of course it does.

by the way i literally did see aluminum foil balled up and nailed to a wall in a gallery in paris.

postmodernism doesn not equal thoughtlessness. you've got wrong sources.

post modernism, while hard to pin down, is in the most basic sense that which follows modernism in art, literature, architecture, etc.

while it has many common elements with modernism, it does away with master narratives, "all knowing" points of view, absolute truths, the supremacy of reason, etc-- in other words, people got tired/disenchanted of modernism and here we are today.

in architecture for example (i trust mirror dash will correct my errors) people got fed up with the coldness & sterility of the international style and created a sort of new baroque that borrows from the past, from non-western cultures, and from anything that moves freely and merrily. of course this is not the baroque, this is not jesuitic art reaching to god in tall spires, it's like the baroque in its profusion, but not in its ideology.

in literature for example, blah blah blah-- should i continue? my point is that our era lacks artistic prophets of the caliber of bernini, shakespeare, cervantes, picasso, goya, etc.
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postmodernism doesn not equal thoughtlessness. you've got wrong sources.

post modernism, while hard to pin down, is in the most basic sense that which follows modernism in art, literature, architecture, etc.

while it has many common elements with modernism, it does away with master narratives, "all knowing" points of view, absolute truths, the supremacy of reason, etc-- in other words, people got tired/disenchanted of modernism and here we are today.

in architecture for example (i trust mirror dash will correct my errors) people got fed up with the coldness & sterility of the international style and created a sort of new baroque that borrows from the past, from non-western cultures, and from anything that moves freely and merrily. of course this is not the baroque, this is not jesuitic art reaching to god in tall spires, it's like the baroque in its profusion, but not in its ideology.

in literature for example, blah blah blah-- should i continue? my point is that our era lacks artitic prophets of the caliber of bernini, shakespeare, cervantes, picasso, goya, etc.

okay here.

most art is shit.
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Old 04.02.2008, 11:01 PM   #15
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im thinking, matthew barney is the only one who has attempted something BIG like that, mixing art, science, using multiple media, and creating some sort of vast cosmology.

and while i detest the cremaster cycle, he did good by me in drawing restraint 9. his film stills however are superb. as for vaseline sculptures... well... but i think the guy is on to something if anybody ever was.

he's no leonardo, but at least he's trying. i applaud that.

 
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Old 04.03.2008, 10:04 AM   #16
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Ralph Steadman is my all time favorite artist. (they call him an "illustrator" )

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Difficult to say. There are so many.

I'm particularly fond of The Vienna Aktionists.
Otto Mühl, Günter Brus, Rudolf Schwarzkogler and my favorite Hermann Nitsch.

Also, Kurt Kren. An avantgarde filmmaker who worked with them between the 60's and early 70's.
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Old 04.03.2008, 10:32 AM   #18
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