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whoa there brother, that was backwards-- CMOS grabs line by line, hence the rolling shutter issue found in many CMOS cameras--sony ex1s, some new pannys, consumer-lever "HD" cameras, etc . google for a video demo. CCD grabs the whole but in quality cameras it's split in R/G/B ("3CCD") & then recomposed, so each sensor grabs a full frame in color-- no rolling shutter there. k the other things is beware of the bolex: they are sweet, but i worked with one last year and fuck, it's the developing that gets pricey-- even if you nab an academic/student discount, runs at about $40 per 2 minutes of developed film. plus working prints, plus getting a steenbeck to edit, the pain, the pain. a motherfucking money pit, i'm settling for video for good. i'd stick to film for things like handpainted film & stuff like that but that's about it. |
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i've seen a machine that is rigged as follows: it runs the film frame by frame and then it captuers in camera frame by frame. there's some sync involved and the optics work something like a DOF adapter would. these are products of cottage industries rather than makers of industrial gear, but i've seen them work. the real cheapos do it poorly, others do a decent job. i'd rather put my $ on a good HD video camera ![]() a lot of houses are digitizing film these days for reasonable fees, on DV or DigiBeta, depending on what you wanna pay for. This girl I know I think was offered $150 per 1/2 hour of 16mm to DV. Thing is she got 10 minutes it still costs $150 and it's DV where 16mm would fit more like 2K so I'd do it at HD capture (pillarboxed) or 16x9 and crop the top/bottom edges-- but that's $$$ I think more like $400 per 1/2 hour plus setup fees etc. |
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ps look at this cheapie-- super8 telecine for $214
http://super8arena.com/panasonic-hom...l?currency=USD you'd still need a camera and i don't know how it syncs the frames super8 resolution is close to DV though so it would be an easy/cheap match |
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True story: I was just at an estate sale and picked up a Sekonic 16mm camera Probably totally useless because it uses tiny reels--probably 50'
Oh wait, its a dual 8mm. The film carrier flips. Weird shit. The thing is built like a tank probably weighs 5 lbs.
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Telecine is the only proper way to transfer film to video.
The last time I used my 8mm cameras was in college. Film has it's charm, but it's slowly becoming obsolete. Same goes for tape-based cameras. Flash memory and solid state drives is where it's at. |
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film is so much more charming than than digital could ever hope to be... I think. There is something lovely about one chance to record, and including the unpredictable mistakes.
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"The technology of yesterday becomes the artform of today" Marshall McLuhan, from 'onsuper8.org'
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photography in all forms was considered purely a science until reletively recently.
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I like film. I've only shot a few things on film, on super 8. Was fun. I know EXACTLY how to get the same look -- flaws and all -- on digital, though. So, it's kind of a pointlessly expensive alternative just to be "authentic" and gimmicky. I know a dude who made a no budget film and wanted to have it transferred to 35mm -- for thousands of dollars -- just to have some "Real" scratches on it. Seems silly. But whatever works.
I'd say.. embrace digital. But, really, in my case, maybe not anyone else's, I use EVERYTHING.. vhs, broken dvd glitches.. old camcorders, film strips, notebook drawings, mspaint, polaroids.. anything works.I even designed my own video game for a sequence in no reason to exist.. |
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Here's a trailer for my new film.. I think it looks quite good for a $20 camera..
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for me I enjoy the analogue process far more than the digital. I find it cathartic and ritual. processing a film by hand or running through negs brings me more joy than uploading and point and click. I agree though, whatever works for each individual.
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Oh, it's definitely fun as hell, but I guess, to me, frames are frames, no matter how you make the frames.
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Nah dude, I purposely degrade/fuck up the footage. Still the same camera. You can get a lot of mileage out of it.
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i do love analog photo, but film, holy fuck, i don't have a trust fund to support such a habit, and it's slooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooowwwwwwwww to work on, by comparison to digital. still you can be locked up for months editing a movie-- today's movies are edited digitally anyway, even when shot on film. editing on a steenbeck, with knife and tape = a royal bitch you can get nice stuff done of course-- hand painted film is one niche that digital can't cover and it's cool as shit-- relatively cheap too. |
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you can do the equivalent of hand painted film with digital... just open up artrage, print screen each frame, there you go. haha.
i like to edit film strips with safety pins. |
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