[Toilet & Bowels]

there are a couple of songs on the wavves myspace player that are pretty much the same music but with different words

I couldn't figure out what was doing my head in about 'I'm so Bored' so much, until it hit me that that it has a an addcictive hook but it's a crap, predictable song overall. I think the fact that it's recorded in a medium-range lo-fi way slowed down my realising it.

[Toilet & Bowels]

listen to the "i'm so bored" song until half way through and then flick to halfway through "wavves"

i don't dislike wavves, i think they're ok, i don't really have any strong feelings either way.

[Decayed Rhapsody]

I did this with No Age and realized how much better they'd be if they actually took time to craft their hooks instead of just insert a misplaced wash of noise.

[Rob Instigator]

i was just joshin' sheeeeiiitttt

[greedrex]

^i know.

[ZEROpumpkins]

Sometimes I'll open up Cool Edit and view the song in a spectrogram. That really makes things interesting.

[Toilet & Bowels]

Originally Posted by Nefeli

not really. probably because the majority of what i listen isnt songs. no, i do listen to songs too, maybe not of bands that do what you describe.
last week i listened to a lot a dead c. i ll check if what you say can be applied. hmm i dont think it will.

i do sound confused. i m not that much.

yeah, this is what i meant by all the parts being integral, if you took the noise out of the dead c then the song would lose a quater of what makes it what it is. i think it only applies to stuff that i don't really like very much anyway.

[Toilet & Bowels]

Originally Posted by Nefeli

you love me, no?

yes, in a way

[Glice]

I was thinking about this yesterday. I was watching this. This would be a fucking incredible song if you removed the archtecture - by this I mean, if you took out the strumming guitar, and left the classy vocal line drifting over the droning Martenots [?] you'd have a truly amazing song. As it is, they leave in the bits that make it obviously a song, becuase they have commercial concerns. I think a lot of the time, underneath all the faff, bands don't have any songs. But then, sometimes, a band can make do with a vocal line.

I'll tell you what I'm growing to hate - rhythm sections that keep time. Drums are for making a fuck off loud sound, get a drum machine if you need to keep time.