I realize that art is subjective and all, but... - Page 2

demonrail666 · 07.07.2007, 08:37 PM

that youtube clip is great. would rep if i could.

Green Magnesium · 07.07.2007, 08:41 PM

You're all insane.

Joanna Newsom is like Tiny Tim for a new generation. Cute, quirky; but not to be taken seriously.

And for the record, it's not that I feel Newsom "can't sing" (unlike Kim Gordon and Neil Young who are in fact poor singers). She just sings like a deranged 11 year old. Very forced and nonsensical. I dare someone to look me in the eye and tell me that they honestly believe that that is her REAL honest to goodness singing voice and not some put on for all of her fans looking for something weird and "honest".

Alex's Trip · 07.07.2007, 09:04 PM

I don't think it is a put on at all. Why the fuck would she do that? I don't think you can choose to sing like that because 1) it'd be hard too do, and 2) it is too radical to try to get fans that want something weird and "honest".

I mean, I don't like it because it is 'weird' or 'honest'. It took me a while to grow to love it.

lungfish · 07.07.2007, 11:39 PM

i got into Newsom by accident before the release of Milk Eyed
and the early version of the song Bridges and Balloons was amazing to me.
sure, her voice is high pitched and odd and not usual at all, but her harp and her lyrics
(which is the main and most beautiful thing that sticks out for me when listening to her) gave me that good feeling i get with exceptional music.
that song and "Sadie" still remain my favorite songs of hers
and they're beautiful songs.
take or leave it.
leave it.

jimbrim · 07.08.2007, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Green Magnesium

I dare someone to look me in the eye and tell me that they honestly believe that that is her REAL honest to goodness singing voice.

Whats the big deal if it's not her 'real' singing voice? In my opinion it sounds good, and thats all that matters.

Green Magnesium · 07.08.2007, 11:42 AM

Oh you rascals. I was just being an asshole with this thread. I fully understand that art IS subjective, and there will be people who like anything. After all, Nickelback has fans.

If you all sincerely enjoy the sound of a parrot being sodomized against the strings of a harp, more power to you! :P

Bunbury · 07.08.2007, 07:21 PM

Joanna Newsom sounds like the CocoRosie sisters being gang-raped by unicorns in a barn. I love her.

Savage Clone · 07.08.2007, 09:45 PM

Coco Rosie were the only ones to top Ms. Newsom for making me apoplectic with rage by having to endure one of their live sets. They both had that effect on me, but CocoRosie were still ahead in the end.

I'm pretty sure that if you play Newsom to young children, they will wind up with speech impediments.
She's a very skilled harpist, though.

krastian · 07.08.2007, 11:10 PM

The kids would love it since she sings like a widdle widdle baby.

Green Magnesium · 07.09.2007, 12:27 AM

You're not supposed to talk down to children once they reach the "speaking years"... Ms. Newsom would seriously stunt their development unfortunately

Bunbury · 07.09.2007, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Savage Clone

Coco Rosie were the only ones to top Ms. Newsom for making me apoplectic with rage by having to endure one of their live sets. They both had that effect on me, but CocoRosie were still ahead in the end.

I'm pretty sure that if you play Newsom to young children, they will wind up with speech impediments.
She's a very skilled harpist, though.

Cocorosie are amazing, way better than Newsom, when i saw them open for Antony they peppered the stage with wild flowers and lit incense before their set started. I still have a daisy from that night.

They also covered "Hardcore" era Lil Kim that same night, I was in heaven.

greenbird · 07.09.2007, 09:58 PM

I saw her backed by the London Symphony Orchestra last january. One of the best gigs this year by far.

noumenal · 07.09.2007, 10:03 PM

I realize that art isn't subjective and all, but......nevermind.

terminal pharmacy · 07.09.2007, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Green Magnesium

I dare someone to look me in the eye and tell me that they honestly believe that that is her REAL honest to goodness singing voice and not some put on for all of her fans looking for something weird and "honest".

hmm conumdrum... this posits 1. that she always had fans 2. that she sung in a different way before creating a fan base 3. that she changed the way she sings to appease her fan base

not to mention, 1. she is a brilliant harpist 2. the string arrangements on YS are very good 3. her song writing is also fantastic

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demonrail666 invito al cielo Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 18,509	that youtube clip is great. would rep if i could.
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Green Magnesium 100% Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A House Like a Lotus Posts: 809	You're all insane. Joanna Newsom is like Tiny Tim for a new generation. Cute, quirky; but not to be taken seriously. And for the record, it's not that I feel Newsom "can't sing" (unlike Kim Gordon and Neil Young who are in fact poor singers). She just sings like a deranged 11 year old. Very forced and nonsensical. I dare someone to look me in the eye and tell me that they honestly believe that that is her REAL honest to goodness singing voice and not some put on for all of her fans looking for something weird and "honest".
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07.07.2007, 09:04 PM	#23
Alex's Trip invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Southern California Posts: 5,608	I don't think it is a put on at all. Why the fuck would she do that? I don't think you can choose to sing like that because 1) it'd be hard too do, and 2) it is too radical to try to get fans that want something weird and "honest". I mean, I don't like it because it is 'weird' or 'honest'. It took me a while to grow to love it. __________________ KALOPSIA
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07.07.2007, 11:39 PM	#24
lungfish bad moon rising Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: nyc Posts: 236	i got into Newsom by accident before the release of Milk Eyed and the early version of the song Bridges and Balloons was amazing to me. sure, her voice is high pitched and odd and not usual at all, but her harp and her lyrics (which is the main and most beautiful thing that sticks out for me when listening to her) gave me that good feeling i get with exceptional music. that song and "Sadie" still remain my favorite songs of hers and they're beautiful songs. take or leave it. leave it.
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07.08.2007, 11:42 AM	#26
Green Magnesium 100% Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A House Like a Lotus Posts: 809	Oh you rascals. I was just being an asshole with this thread. I fully understand that art IS subjective, and there will be people who like anything. After all, Nickelback has fans. If you all sincerely enjoy the sound of a parrot being sodomized against the strings of a harp, more power to you! :P
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07.08.2007, 07:21 PM	#27
Bunbury stalker Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 432	Joanna Newsom sounds like the CocoRosie sisters being gang-raped by unicorns in a barn. I love her.
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Savage Clone invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 11,287	Coco Rosie were the only ones to top Ms. Newsom for making me apoplectic with rage by having to endure one of their live sets. They both had that effect on me, but CocoRosie were still ahead in the end. I'm pretty sure that if you play Newsom to young children, they will wind up with speech impediments. She's a very skilled harpist, though.
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krastian invito al cielo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Baltimore Posts: 7,808	The kids would love it since she sings like a widdle widdle baby. __________________ Confusion is next and next after that is the Truth.
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07.09.2007, 12:27 AM	#30
Green Magnesium 100% Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A House Like a Lotus Posts: 809	You're not supposed to talk down to children once they reach the "speaking years"... Ms. Newsom would seriously stunt their development unfortunately
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07.09.2007, 09:58 PM	#32
greenbird bad moon rising Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 115	I saw her backed by the London Symphony Orchestra last january. One of the best gigs this year by far.
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07.09.2007, 10:03 PM	#33
noumenal expwy. to yr skull Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,855	I realize that art isn't subjective and all, but......nevermind.
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