Who invented post-rock - Page 2

andrei · 12.19.2007, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by king-buzzo

Who was the first?
Who did it better?

Gastr Del Sol

Savage Clone · 12.19.2007, 01:12 PM

It was invented by the executives at Windham Hill in an effort to appeal to a younger deomgraphic.

batreleaser · 12.19.2007, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark

From my post on the iheartnoise forum:

Why do people always make a note of hating the name of a genre? From IDM to no wave to post rock, everyone takes exception with the names of genres. I was on some message board for this Japanese band the other day, and some guy said "yeah, they remind me of a lot of math rock bands.." and some guy goes into like 3 paragraphs about how dumb the term math rock is. Jesus, it's just a broad term to describe a sound, who gives a shit what it's called?

I know what people are saying; "math" rock.. every rock is "mathy", it all involves counting and numbers, but the DEFINITION of math rock is: highly technical music with lots of time changes, etc. etc etc. Same for something like IDM... IDM definitely sounds different than, say, house music. Why pay attention to the genre name?

agreed, genre names make life easier, there is no band that is totally "unclassifiable", well maybe some, but if so its very few. IDM however is one of the genre names that I really like, "intelligent dance music". It sounds very fiting. Aphex, Autectre, Squarepusher, Boards of Canada, and most of the WARP roster are definiteley dance music, but far more intricate and interesting than youre standard Chicago Acid House group. Speaking of Squarepusher, anyone know if hes comin out with anyything in the future?

Torn Curtain · 12.19.2007, 02:57 PM

Post-rock is said to originate with Laughing stock and Spiderland, but I think The Durutti Column, or even Neu! or Can could fit the definition.

Glice · 12.19.2007, 03:06 PM

This thread makes me think I should take out my Christmas bonus and blow* it all down the whore-house on that cute Welsh lass with the chunky ass.

*I'm well aware of the irony in using this word, thanks.

king_buzzo · 12.19.2007, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by sarramkrop

Anyway, post rock and math rock are some of the worst musical terminology (IDM too) ever coined by anyone, ever.

i like the term math rock, but the post rock term sucks ass.

uhler · 12.19.2007, 04:41 PM

minor threat did

demonrail666 · 12.19.2007, 06:02 PM

The term Electronica came about when a group of, primarily European, musicians decided in the early 90s to 'play around' with Detroit Techno in an attempt to create tracks more suited to chill-out rooms than to the dancefloor. By taking the music away from its original function of danceability these artists were able to experiment with more abstract, often a-rhythmical, drum patterns, etc. This led to an interest in certain types of modern classical and jazz music which in turn lent the music a more 'high brow' status.

I agree almost entirely with what Sarramkrop has said about The Chemical Brothers. Just to add a few points though: that they came from (or at least became associated with) a growing interest among 'rock types', who liked the idea of dance music, but couldn't deal with the faceless DJ thing and lack of 'authentic' instruments. They (along with such 'bands' as The Prodigy, The Orb and Orbital) managed to overcome this by providing spectacular live shows with a sound that fused (as Sarramkrop has said) Techno, Hip Hop, Rock, Dub and Pop influences. In many ways they were trying to re-ignite the earlier energy and euphoria of late 80s Acid House (or, in the case of The Orb, the more blissed out feel of the chill out room) but in a way that could be packaged more easily into a 'gig' format, thus accommodating a new, traditionally non club-going, audience. However, most people with any interest in original House and Techno looked down on this scene. Recognising it as the rather cynical attempt at commodifying the earlier Rave scene that it was.

flophousefloozie · 12.19.2007, 06:22 PM

No matter who you vote for, you must remember the history of America. To vote "brits" would only make sense.

Inhuman · 12.19.2007, 06:52 PM

O-Town

the ikara cult · 12.19.2007, 07:06 PM

OPM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WR2a8mccuJY

Onani Nic · 12.19.2007, 08:18 PM

The Meatmen.

ZEROpumpkins · 12.19.2007, 08:36 PM

Television

SpectralJulianIsNotDead · 12.19.2007, 10:22 PM

Some asshole music journalist invented post-rock

Cantankerous · 12.19.2007, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Everyneurotic

are you asking who invented instrumental music?

um, cavemen
therefore cavemen invented post rock

ZEROpumpkins · 12.19.2007, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SpectralJulianIsNotDead

Some asshole music journalist invented post-rock

Actually that's true.

king_buzzo · 12.20.2007, 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by SpectralJulianIsNotDead

Some asshole music journalist invented post-rock

goes for loads of other genres. like shoegaze.

ZEROpumpkins · 12.20.2007, 03:15 AM

And grunge.
Zeppelin invented Heavy Metal though.

king_buzzo · 12.20.2007, 03:17 AM

m? they coined it?

or you mean, just the sound?

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demonrail666 invito al cielo Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 18,510	The term Electronica came about when a group of, primarily European, musicians decided in the early 90s to 'play around' with Detroit Techno in an attempt to create tracks more suited to chill-out rooms than to the dancefloor. By taking the music away from its original function of danceability these artists were able to experiment with more abstract, often a-rhythmical, drum patterns, etc. This led to an interest in certain types of modern classical and jazz music which in turn lent the music a more 'high brow' status. I agree almost entirely with what Sarramkrop has said about The Chemical Brothers. Just to add a few points though: that they came from (or at least became associated with) a growing interest among 'rock types', who liked the idea of dance music, but couldn't deal with the faceless DJ thing and lack of 'authentic' instruments. They (along with such 'bands' as The Prodigy, The Orb and Orbital) managed to overcome this by providing spectacular live shows with a sound that fused (as Sarramkrop has said) Techno, Hip Hop, Rock, Dub and Pop influences. In many ways they were trying to re-ignite the earlier energy and euphoria of late 80s Acid House (or, in the case of The Orb, the more blissed out feel of the chill out room) but in a way that could be packaged more easily into a 'gig' format, thus accommodating a new, traditionally non club-going, audience. However, most people with any interest in original House and Techno looked down on this scene. Recognising it as the rather cynical attempt at commodifying the earlier Rave scene that it was.
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12.20.2007, 03:17 AM	#39
king_buzzo invito al cielo Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 11,110	m? they coined it? or you mean, just the sound?
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