[candymoan]

"you cannot have heresy without an orthodoxy"

okay.. i'll give you that..
but what about velvet underground? wouldn't you say that pioneers of that calibre have something radical to offer that transforms norms?

think of it this way.. does the attitude impose an expansion, that eventually progresses into something else?

you have the velvets --> the stooges --> the ramones --> pistols and clash --> joy division and post-punk --> no wave
et cetera..

my main argument is, the uk punk brought this movement mainstream attention, and exposed minds to it..
i'm thinking of influence..

everyone that saw the pistols live, formed their own band...
kinda thing..