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Originally Posted by amerikangod
I didn't say that the scaling was lifted from European music, I just said that European music was one of the influences. And just because Thing B is influenced by Thing A, it doesn't mean that those familiar with Thing A won't have their minds blown by Thing B. Influence and hybridization is best when it forms a wholly unique product. See Boredoms' approach to melding styles versus the Mr. Bungle 'oil and water' approach of mixing.
In any case, the influence was more than just the fact that they were playing guitars. But that's not my point. I'm not trying to argue how much one group was involved and not another, my entire point is that there isn't 'racial purity' in culture, and it's counter-productive to try and label aspects of culture as being unique to a race.
Also, everything that followed about 'people shouldn't do this because its not unique to their culture' or what-have-you was not in any way directed at you. It wasn't directed at anyone. I was just ranting / furthering the above point.
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All those things are probably very true but, in America at least, you did have such a thing as 'race music' and a 'Black Singles Chart' which was dismantled in 1964. The people who established the Black Singles Chart or the term race music weren't making a point about the origins of a music but the general ethnic makeup of those who bought or listened to it. The Black Singles Chart was renamed not because white artists began making hybrids of RnB (which had been going on long before 1964) but because the massive success of certain bands that used elements of it in their music could no longer be described as appealing to an overwhelmingly Black audience.