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Old 04.17.2009, 06:02 AM   #15
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Originally Posted by pbradley
Yeah, a good argument clearly leads to its conclusion. Unfortunately I'm too tired to consider logic any further so I guess that will have to do as a reply.

Well intuitively we see that a building doesn't move but it does in that it rest upon a planet that revolves around the Sun. Revealing non-dual truth is like a koan:
Shuzan held out his short staff and said, "If you call this a short staff, you oppose its reality. If you do not call it a short staff, you ignore the fact. Now what do you wish to call this?"

1) If you're untired in the future I'd like to revisit this. Others can join in if they want, but just try not to muddle my fragile illustration. Summary: Logic is a freeway, can the freeway ever end without breaking its structure? Could a paradox be an end point for the freeway? If not, then what comes together to make a conclusion? Anything? There has to be some change right? Does anyone know how to examine the process of stepping off the freeway / logic and into a conclusion?

2) a - good point. Something itches about it though, I'll have to think more.
b - Very interesting. I think that might be the starting point before the argument. Though I don't see how calling it a short staff opposes its reality. But that's probably ignorance here. Anyway, say that's right - that you can't call it a staff and you can't deny the fact - then there's still a third choice, do nothing but exist. So is that the point of synthesis?

Regardless, if one did neither deny or ignore but zenned it up with a few crates of aphid ridden buffalo medallions then doesn't the one immediately enter a new dualistic set?
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