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like moentioned nefore horns doesn't make ska. the uptempo beat and the "upside down r'n'b" guitar make ska more than any horns do. also, i grew up in my early to mid teens in the "3rd wave" of ska and most of my peers loved that shit and i love the specials and 2 tone ska as well as the original ska artists and groups. aside from 2 tone and some clash songs (and a few other bands) ska and punk do not mix at all.
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