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Originally Posted by HaydenAsche
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Listen, Suchfriends, you're an insane conspiracy nut. Those accomplishments are noteworthy. Still doesn't mean he's a fucking joke vote. There is absolutely no reason to vote for Ralph Nader and he is the reason GWB has been our president for the last 8 fucking years. If that 1-2% of liberals had thought to themselves to vote for a DEMOCRAT instead of an independent that was going to under absolutely no circumstances win. Explain to me, then, why he isn't a joke vote.
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wendeme (my brother), the joke isn't on Ralph Nader, its on all of America. Voting for Nader is a "fucking vote joke" but so is every other vote. its all bullshit. My point of this thread was not to promote "Nader 4 President". and you are absolutely wrong. ralph nader did not cost anyone any election. the majority of registered voters in the US are independent. There were other thirdparty candidates other then Ralph Nader, and further, to accuse any third party candidate as costing the election goes against the grain of the very nature of multi-party democracy. of course, that is the flaw in presidential system to begin with, should proportional. The multiparty system in US is simply a form of two-party facism, not democracy.
as I said, Nader himself never expected to be president. Voting for him was a sort of Election Boycott, and honestly it was rather effective.
further, I think your definition of voting is wrong. You clearly promote voting for someone who could "win" but you are supposed to vote for who you want to vote for, the person who represents your interests. you fuck up the whole concept when you change your voting decisions based upon likeliness of winning. You dont vote for the winner, you vote for who you believe in. It is the president of the United States, not the fucking president of the Student Council....
and by the way, I see you believe in democratic party propaganda in saying "if the 1-2% of liberals".... (ie just voted democrat then blah blah woof woof). that is bullshit. if all the registered democrats would just have voted democrat is more valid and appropriate, considering 5-10% of democrats play the field and in 2000 voted for Bush....