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by reading the answers, i don't want this to be interpreted as a fight cry, but a) i'm one of the very few people to listen to a lot of noise in here and b) most people haven't heard a lot of noise, something that can be tricky since, as noted, there's a lot of crap to get to the good stuff, but a lot of people seem to give up too easily. noise isn't for everyone, granted.
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