Yea... but fromw hat igathered as my days as a =w= geek river's has always had a certain reign of control over the group. All the songs were written by him and their bass playing was never that much... but that doesn't say that his presence didn't help the band... or the fact it was like 5 years inbetween oinkerton (i was going to change that til i read it as 'oink-erton
and green seems pretty much like the band got back together because they good score bank.