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Originally Posted by Pookie
By garage I mean 60's garage which, if you want to stretch the point can be seen as an precursor to grunge. All rock music is connected in some way, it is organic, growing, developing & changing all the time, feeding off itself much of the time.
I just couldn't see a direct link between a group like The Saints (pop punk) and grunge. I'm sure many of the members of the grunge acts listed would have listened to The Saints but that's a different issue.
And I don't think there is a world of difference between Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, MLB etc. All sounds like stodgy rock to me.
And just to clarify, I don't like any of the grunge bands listed, but like all the bands you listed.
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cool, yes grunge was a time and scene not a genre. pearl jam sound more like live than any of the listed bands, as mudhoney / green river sound like the scientists. grunge becomes a problem when it is talked about in genre terms because there are little or no musically stylistic similarities between most of the bands that were there at the time, it is even less so than the likes of the bruittists and the futurists early last century who did have simulacrums in their writings and philosophies.