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Originally Posted by knox
I'm not taking this "you're not British so fuck off" argument. So if I decide to be British then can I say something please, please, please? I'm actually trying to understand how someone is going to justify "they're harmless" as being good enough reason. Even tho they are not harmless, useless perhaps, but not harmless.
Some people have better pro-monarchy arguments, that's all I'm saying.
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The point I was making is that you were using a stereotypical and negative view of the British to decry a minority opinion, in my view. By which I mean, we're not all 'too polite' etc, regardless of those stereotypes. I don't think 'British decency' is actually true - most people are cunts, some of those people are British; the British do not have an anti-confrontational nature, at all.
My post wasn't, apparently, that successful in getting that across, but ho hum.
Of course you're entitled to your opinion. It's probably the same as most British people. My take is probably that I don't know of any seriously defensible pro-monarchy arguments, but my question is how to negotiate the territory between that ideological position and the pragmatic one? By which I mean, is the monarchy another representation of sinecural, aristocratic vulgar capitalism, or does that denigrative structure disappear when they're gone? Yes, of course we should get rid of them, but that's not the panacea for global trauma. Would it help? Certainly, but it's just one step along the way. Is it going to happen, in the democracy as it stands, in my lifetime? Almost certainly not, and that's a defeatist attitude on my part.