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k-krack 08.01.2006 03:02 PM

Qho ripped off who? The fall/The stooges
 
ok, Elves by the Fall and I Wanna Be Yr Dog by the Stooges is the same riff.. exxcept i think Elves is higher pitched. anyone got an explanation?! on purpose?! accidental!?

Savage Clone 08.01.2006 03:04 PM

There is a track on one of My Bloody Valentine's EPs that sounds exactly like I Wanna Be Your Dog too, right down to the one-note piano riffing. So obvious that it's far more "homage" than "ripoff."

k-krack 08.01.2006 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savage Clone
There is a track on one of My Bloody Valentine's EPs that sounds exactly like I Wanna Be Your Dog too, right down to the one-note piano riffing. So obvious that it's far more "homage" than "ripoff."


curious.. very curious!

what year was ..dog released?


The Stooges (has IWBYD) was released in 1969

Savage Clone 08.01.2006 03:07 PM

I think that would be 1969, so Stooges definitely get credit.
Then again, it's a pretty boneheaded descending riff that would come intuitively to anyone with rudimentary guitar chops and a desire to rock, so none too surprising that it would turn up elsewhere...

Pax Americana 08.01.2006 03:08 PM

Their self titled album came out in 1969.

k-krack 08.01.2006 03:09 PM

oh, i should have checked beforei thought i woukd say it. haha

k-krack 08.01.2006 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savage Clone
I think that would be 1969, so Stooges definitely get credit.
Then again, it's a pretty boneheaded descending riff that would come intuitively to anyone with rudimentary guitar chops and a desire to rock, so none too surprising that it would turn up elsewhere...


true, but i can only assume that the Fall knew the stooges music well enough?? maybe not. but IWBYD is/was a fairly big song...

michael71 08.01.2006 04:42 PM

I think that The Fall maybe did take the Stooges riff on elves but I'll be damned if I'd ever say that to Mark E Smith's face!

k-krack 08.01.2006 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by michael71
I think that The Fall maybe did take the Stooges riff on elves but I'll be damned if I'd ever say that to Mark E Smith's face!


word

Glice 08.01.2006 05:46 PM

Rip Off or knowledgable nod? The Fall rehashed the same riff on another song as well, and they've re-used lots of their riffs. The Fall's music, strictly speaking, isn't really what's exciting about them. I prefer the Fall a million to the Stooges, who I just quite like. 3-4 decent albums versus 20+ brilliant ones. That's my equation, and if I see it anywhere else, I'm suing.

Everyneurotic 08.01.2006 05:53 PM

dumb question.

but the stooges probably nicked it from some garage band from oklabama who only released one 7" and lasted for 8 weeks.


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