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Hip Priest 07.19.2006 10:57 AM

Hard Bop artists
 
Along with just about any good old trad, hard bop is my jazz style of choice, claiming as it does a great number of iconic artists. Which do you prefer?

Hard Bop

terminal pharmacy 07.19.2006 10:59 AM

The Sidewinder lee morgan and i voted for blakey too, man that mofo had some drum chops

gmku 07.19.2006 11:01 AM

I like a bunch of the old Blue Note musicians. Tina Brooks is a great and often overlooked one. Try his True Blue.

Others on Blue Note: Dexter Gordon, Art Blakey, Horace Silver, Lee Morgan, Cannonball Adderly, Lou Donaldson.

Also, of course, the late-50s/early-60s stuff by Coltrane, Miles Davis, and Monk.

Cantankerous 07.19.2006 11:03 AM

coltrane is superior.

Hip Priest 07.19.2006 11:04 AM

Hard Bop probably contributed to more great music than any other jazz style.

Horace Silver's website is quite good.

Hip Priest 07.19.2006 11:04 AM

I like all of those artists, I love Monk and Blakey, but I really love Horace Silver! Horace started out as one of Blakey's Jazz Messengers.

afterthefact 07.19.2006 11:06 AM

wow, looks like we got a 4 way split... I had to go for Thelonius though, just great stuff.

gmku 07.19.2006 11:07 AM

I didn't see the poll before. I voted for "a different one," and that is Tina Brooks. I strongly recommend True Blue. Probably the best Blue Note record I've heard.

terminal pharmacy 07.19.2006 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hip Priest
I like all of those artists, I love Monk and Blakey, but I really love Horace Silver! Horace started out as one of Blakey's Jazz Messengers.


Silver's Songs for my father is brilliant

Hip Priest 07.19.2006 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gmku
I didn't see the poll before. I voted for "a different one," and that is Tina Brooks. I strongly recommend True Blue. Probably the best Blue Note record I've heard.


On this board, you write and post the message before making the actual poll, so the post appears first! You were probably experiencing a post-post, pre-poll limbo land.

m^a(t)h 07.19.2006 11:24 AM

I like late coltrane, the atonal human sounding records he did, very underrated time period of his....

krastian 07.19.2006 02:59 PM

Cool poll Hip Priest....tuff decision but I went with Miles. Tuff to vote against Blakey, Coltrane, and Monk though.

Daddylikes 07.19.2006 03:01 PM

Uhm, not all of these are truly "hard bop" musicians.

Daddylikes 07.19.2006 03:02 PM

And it's funny...the ones that truly are Hard Bop, have the fewist votes.

(Hint, the first two and last two on the list.)

hat and beard 07.19.2006 03:03 PM

mingus.

Daddylikes 07.19.2006 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hat and beard
mingus.


I wouldn't classify him as a hard bop artist.

While his bassplaying often incorporated elements of hard bop, his complex compositional style incorporated way too many elements to be called "hard bop". His style is a fusion of many different styles.

And I'd be hard pressed to call a bassist the best as a hard bop player.

I'm thinking it's a toss up between Silver and Rollins (I voted for Silver).

Anyone who votes for Miles Davis as best hard bop artist is probably ignorant as to what the style entails (as Miles' lack of dexterity on the horn which contributed to his incredible style of playing doesn't lend itself well to the hard bop form).

hat and beard 07.19.2006 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daddylikes
I wouldn't classify him as a hard bop artist.

While his bassplaying often incorporated elements of hard bop, his complex compositional style incorporated way too many elements to be called "hard bop". His style is a fusion of many different styles.

And I'd be hard pressed to call a bassist the best as a hard bop player.

I'm thinking it's a toss up between Silver and Rollins (I voted for Silver).

Anyone who votes for Miles Davis as best hard bop artist is probably ignorant as to what the style entails (as Miles' lack of dexterity on the horn which contributed to his incredible style of playing doesn't lend itself well to the hard bop form).




i agree completely. i wouldn't classify him as hard bop either. i just voted for my favorite on the list.

monk also doesn't belong on that list, as he was a genre unto himself.

Daddylikes 07.19.2006 03:26 PM

That was kinda obvious from your screenname... heh.

Coltrane doesn't belong either and I'm surprised the Adderley bros. aren't on the list.

atari 2600 07.19.2006 03:27 PM

John Coltrane (absolute faves are Giant Steps & My Favorite Things)
Miles Davis (his hard bop with Hancock/Williams/Tyner/Carter as on My Funny Valentine + Four More & Live at the Plugged Nickel)
Sonny Rollins (favorites are his work with Miles, Blakey & Bud Powell although I have no Sonny Rollins records or cds)
Charles Mingus (favorite is Mingus Ah Um)
Art Blakey (favorite is first Jazz Messengers album)
Thelonius Monk (favorite is 'Round Midnight)
Horace Silver (favorites are Song for My Father & Opus de Funk)
Donald Byrd (favorite is Black Byrd)
Joe Henderson (I have no Joe)

the neglected:
Herbie Hancock Quartet (Empyrean Isles which features Mr. Freddie Hubbard)
Freddie Hubbard (Hub-Tones)
Bud Powell & Art Tatum (everything they touch)
Lennie Tristano & Warne Marsh (Crosscurrent/Intuition --- the true Birth of The Cool before Lee Konitz spread it over into Davis' camp.)

Pookie 07.19.2006 03:37 PM

Possibly the most difficult poll I've voted on here. Mingus because he's my current favourite, although Art Blakey got me into jazz in the first place.


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