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Florya 05.04.2009 01:47 AM

Swans To Reform?
 
http://brainwashed.com/index.php?opt...536&Ite mid=1

Intriguing.:cool:

blunderbuss 05.04.2009 02:02 AM

I don't get it, I honestly just don't get it. Why? What's the point?

 

Florya 05.04.2009 03:12 AM

From the interview, I think it's because some of the new material Gira's writing would suit a Swans treatment better than Angels of Light.

Swans were immense. It would be nice to hear their classic songs played live again but I'm not sure they could capture that raw power 25 years on.

diskaholic-anonymous 05.04.2009 04:05 AM

love them to, so powerfull and immense energy to shake our body and mind.
i think Gira miss the old days...
"Perhaps, he said, there would one day be an Angels of Light and Swans tour."

Trasher02 05.04.2009 05:15 AM

I'd definately check it out, let's just hope they'll have the same energy on stage they used to have.

atsonicpark 05.04.2009 05:51 AM

That'd be a pretty shocking reformation. I figured Gira would be totally against this kinda stuff. Hmm.

Derek 05.04.2009 06:17 AM

As long as Jarboe gets in on the act then it's alright.

noisereductions 05.04.2009 09:01 AM

here's something:

I've HEARD Swans songs, and like them a lot. But I don't own a single one of their albums. I feel like I'm kind of afraid of Gira. I should get some of their albums though. Y'know. Face m'fear?

atsonicpark 05.04.2009 09:08 AM

I'm going to be the only one to reccomend you listen to "White Light From The Mouth Of Infinity". It's my favorite Swans record. It's way different than most of the others.

But you can't really go wrong with filth/cop/greed/holy money. I really do love everything they've done, but they are a bit intimidating to listen to at times, definitely.

noisereductions 05.04.2009 10:49 AM

what's White Light like, as in - what makes it so different from the bits & pieces I've heard from other albums?

batreleaser 05.04.2009 10:55 AM

lame. swans stayed together for too long as i was if you ask me. i like them much better as a post-no wave noise rock band much more thran the pseudo goth stuff they ended up doing. Sword Heaven substitutes for Swans these days if you ask me.

Glice 05.04.2009 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atsonicpark
I'm going to be the only one to reccomend you listen to "White Light From The Mouth Of Infinity".


No you're not. Awesome record. Swans made me realise that what I've wanted out of rock music has always been, give or take, what Swans do, what Haino does, and what NNCK do. I mean, lyrically, Gira's impeccable. One of very few lyricists (actually, Low get this as well) who realise that rock's power isn't in playing dumb (the Ramones, the Cramps), or acting smart (the post-Dylan Continuum) or in failing to simulate classical music (prog, 'art rock', post-rock) but in reducing the lyric to total parity, and the music to skeletal viscera*. I don't read too much in the rock ambit any more, but I find it odd that Swans are never spoken of in terms of influencing doom and black metal.

Isn't Goth the archaic straw man of rock music that anteceded emo? That is to say, isn't that one of those words you can throw at just about anything and it works as a criticism, regardless of the fact that 'goth' seems to have more definitions than actual fans?

As for Swans reforming - I think there's a definite difference between a band like them reforming and someone like MBV or the Pixies. I can't imaigine either of the latter having anything more to say, musically or lyrically, but I'm confident that Gira could do something interesting. Ok, it won't be Holy Money, but it won't be 'together through life' (#1 in Britain, I note) or whatever turd the Pixies will turn out (or, for that matter, Pavement will when their turn for reformation comes around).

*Yes, I do know what the words mean. I'm being poetic. Fuck off.

greedrex 05.04.2009 11:54 AM

^^ you should write a review on Bitchdork.

Savage Clone 05.04.2009 11:54 AM

I support any action resulting in Akron/Family not being his backing band.

greedrex 05.04.2009 11:56 AM

http://www.swans.pair.com/

this website has RIDCULOUS PRICES on their mailorder. It's laughable!:

gmku 05.04.2009 12:13 PM

When will these classic rock bands learn to leave well enough alone?

Glice 05.04.2009 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greedrex
^^ you should write a review on Bitchdork.


Whoa there nelly. Don't you want to start with a few "yo' Momma"s before going for the jugular?

demonrail666 05.04.2009 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glice
rock's power isn't in playing dumb (the Ramones, the Cramps)


"Oooh, yes it is"



 

Glice 05.04.2009 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demonrail666
"Oooh, yes it is"




Ok, obviously the Cramps are totally awesome, but the point of my argument isn't anything to do with proofs so much as it is expressing my general ability to be entirely right in spite of incidental evidence to the contrary.

demonrail666 05.04.2009 01:06 PM

If Rock music isn't about promoting stupidity then I really haven't been listening to it properly.

Clever people write books about economics. Stupid people buy polka dotted flying Vs and sing about their UFOs - at least the clever stupid ones do.


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