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Everyneurotic 06.03.2006 02:02 PM

Yoshida Tatsuya vs. Brian Chippendale. Who's the better drummer?
 
who's a better drummer to you?

Inhuman 06.03.2006 02:10 PM

Brian Chippendale is unbelievable at drumming; my favorite! My brother brought Lightning Bolt to his Ottawa noisefest a few years ago and I was too young and didn't like Noise back then, so I didn't get to see him live. Brian Gibson's also one of my favorite bassists, and Ben Koller is a really good drummer.

Пятхъдесят Шест 06.03.2006 02:11 PM

Chris Corsano.

nomadicfollower 06.03.2006 02:28 PM

Chippendale, but in fairness, I've heard more of LB stuff then Ruins.

amerikangod 06.03.2006 02:35 PM

I love them both, and I like Lightning Bolt more than I like Ruins, but I think Yoshida Tatsuya has more technical ability.

Everyneurotic 06.03.2006 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sn@ke
I think that Yoshida Tatsuya is better than Brian C, but as a band i prefer LB!...I remeber that someone said that LB was a rip-off of Ruins, but I really don't think it is a rip-off, LB sounds different and have more energy.


of course not, you have to be deaf to think lightning bolt sound like ruins.

ruins are very structured and composed in their intricancy, and while lightning bolt posses all that, they still retain a strain of freedom and improvisation to them.

it's a shame more people don't know ruins that well. lack of energy my ass, listen to pallaschtom, that's one of the heaviest, craziest, best albums ever.

amerikangod 06.03.2006 02:43 PM

And let's not forget 'Stonehenge' and 'Burning Stone.'

Everyneurotic 06.03.2006 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amerikangod
And let's not forget 'Stonehenge' and 'Burning Stone.'


yes, i should have said "to name but one ruins album".

also, in ruins favor, they can do a lot of things other than bash along full speed ahead in odd time rhythms, they can make entire albums with different vibes like free jazz (both albums with derek bailey), straight up prog (vrresto), even sort of jazz/funk (tzomborgha) and classical (symphonica) and pull it off everytime sounding like ruins.

amerikangod 06.03.2006 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Everyneurotic
yes, i should have said "to name but one ruins album".

also, in ruins favor, they can do a lot of things other than bash along full speed ahead in odd time rhythms, they can make entire albums with different vibes like free jazz (both albums with derek bailey), straight up prog (vrresto), even sort of jazz/funk (tzomborgha) and classical (symphonica) and pull it off everytime sounding like ruins.


Agreed. And on top of that, it' all done while singing complex vocal parts in a made-up language.

Everyneurotic 06.03.2006 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amerikangod
Agreed. And on top of that, it' all done while singing complex vocal parts in a made-up language.


i see your vocal parts and raise it, now yoshida tatsuya plays all those songs by himself with a sequencer while singing and everything, and he always pulls it off flawlessly.

it seems on my recent posts i favor ruins/yoshida over the bolt/chippendale but i don't really, they are too different in my opinion. chippendale is a monster in lightning bolt, there's something about the synergy between him and gibson that's amazing, and there's also the free improv vibe they do, the little details of both their playings. but outside of lightning bolt, i don't like chippendale's drumming much; i mean, i like mindflayer and wizzardzz alright, but not as much as lightning bolt and i really love most of yoshida's side stuff (koenjihyakkei, musica transonic, seikasoku, his solo albums, his collaborations with keiji haino, knead, sun kich, sanhedolin, etc.)

i guess lightning bolt are more like a band thing and ruins is a tatsuya led band, mostly.

nomadicfollower 06.03.2006 03:25 PM

Everyneurotic: You should up a Ruins album for me in the bootleg/share/trade thread. It would be much appreciated.

Everyneurotic 06.03.2006 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nomadicfollower
Everyneurotic: You should up a Ruins album for me in the bootleg/share/trade thread. It would be much appreciated.


i hope i won't get into trouble but i will. i'm uploading some stuff, once that's done, i'll upload it.

EDIT::well, here's a mix of various yoshida tatsuya bands/projects i did, it's two discs long, but worth it if you want to check a lot of yoshida's stuff. a little less than half the songs are ruins, by the way.

http://www.badongo.net/file/703781

Everyneurotic 06.03.2006 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sn@ke
I didn't say that Ruins have lack of energy ...I just thought that LB have MORE energy than Ruins...

two different things, but yeah...It depends on the "song" we are talking about.


true, i didn't mean to come off like that, it's just that some people think ruins are mellower than the bolt.

ruins have more variety to their sound, which sometimes make them seem less aggressive than the bolt.

nomadicfollower 06.03.2006 04:26 PM

Thanks. Downloading now.


You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Everyneurotic again.

nomadicfollower 06.03.2006 07:13 PM

Only, what are .aa files? How do I play them?

atsonicpark 06.03.2006 07:45 PM

Yoshida Tatsuya is a million times better.

Everyneurotic 06.03.2006 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nomadicfollower
Only, what are .aa files? How do I play them?


you have to download both parts and the merger file (all on the main page of the link), then run the merger to get one .zip file. then unzip.

nomadicfollower 06.03.2006 08:11 PM

Alright, thanks. I didn't get all three files.

TheDom 06.03.2006 08:30 PM

Neither. Utrillo Kushner would come along and destroy them both.

(I've never heard Yoshida Tatsuya)

scott v 06.05.2006 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDom
Neither. Utrillo Kushner would come along and destroy them both.

(I've never heard Yoshida Tatsuya)


i vote
Chris Corsano
over any of those...


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