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batreleaser 08.06.2008 09:21 AM

your top 10 all time comic book series/graphic novels...
 
for serious geeks only.

1. the watchmen; written by alan moore; illustrated by dave gibbons.
an obvious choice, but cmon, its perfect.

2. batman: the killing joke; written by alan moore; illustrated by brian bolland.
hadnt read this since i was a kid, but after watching the 'dark knight' i had to pick up a copy, ive been obsessed ever since. its almost perfect, the art is amazing, and moore's writing is as usual, top notch. the ending with batman and the joker sharing a joke and a hysterical laugh is excellent. only thing i dont dig about this is the origin story, joker should have no origin story.

3. batman: the dark knight returns; written and illustrated by frank miller.
probably the only series that as a story could compare to the watchmen. the aging batman is an interesting conception of the icon, and the art, well, is fantastic.

4. wolverine: origins; written by daniel way; illustrated by steve dillon.
i just thing wolverine is the raddest superhero ever. this is his best solo series

5. the swamp thing; written by alan moore; illustrated by tom yeates
one of the greatest testaments to moore's talents. he took a stupud as fuck comic series about some super hero plant monster, and totally revamped it into a terrifying horror comic series about a hero plant monster. i remember when i was a little kid i had this videotape animated swampthing movie, i used to watch it millions of times over with my dad. i was 8 when i discovered there was a comic book about swamp thing, when i found alan moore's version, my eyes were stuck to that thing for months.

6. sin city; written and illustrated by frank miller
it got really trendy after the movie, but anyone who has read these cant deny how fucking awesome, fucked up, and spooky they really are. the neo noir meets horror tales of murderous prostitutes, a psychopathic cannibal with a pet wolf, a yellow head child mollestor, and marv, how the fuck could any geek not love this? the movie aint bad either.

7. from hell; written by alan moore, illustrated by eddie cambell
a terrifying look into the motives driving jack the ripper. the book is as scary as any true crime novels, its like 'helter skelter', only it has awesome pictures.

8. uncanny x men; writen by stan lee (and a shitload others); illustrated by jack kirby
its original x men, it fucking rules.

9. batman: year one; written by frank miller; illustratred by david mazzuchelli
it says in the liner notes that in the early 80s, dc was getting smoked by marvel comics (with good reason). they knew thier biggest series were becoming dated. they had to revamp thier franchise, and started with thier three biggest icons; superman, wonder woman, and batman. the problem with batman was that his back story was already perfect. so instead of changing his origin, they simp;y improved it. and with the help of frank miller, improved it they did. excellent origin story, very interesting conception of bruce wayne, and easily one of the most violent of all the batman series.

10. v for vendetta; written by alan moore; illustrated by david lloyd.
so fucking ambitious. nobody would ever think of comics as a means of warning the public of a bleak dystopan future.

well, from this thread you have now all the proof you need that im a nerd. i could care fucking less.

its also obvious that i am really into the work of frank miller and alan moore. moore is like the william s burroughs of comic books if you ask me.

Savage Clone 08.06.2008 09:24 AM

Stickboy
Hate
Schizo
Meat Cake
Cages
Dirty Plotte
Loose Teeth
Yikes
Trailer Trash
Exquisite Corpse

pbradley 08.06.2008 09:26 AM

Everything I know about comics (which seems like a lot to my roommate and some friends but its really just limited to knowing origins and particular events like Secret Wars) but I've never really read a whole series or anything. I just read whatever my brother got when I was so young (I think around eight).

However, I did just finish reading Watchmen for the upcoming film.

Toilet & Bowels 08.06.2008 10:19 AM

Love & Rockets by Jaime & Gilbert Hernandez
ACME Novelty Library by Chris Ware
Secret Comics Japan - Edited by Chikao Shiratori
Eightball - Daniel Clowes
A Panorama of Hell - Hideshi Hino
El Borbah & Big Baby - Charles Burns
Goodbye & Other Stories - Yoshihiro Tatsumi
Buddha - Osamu Tezuka
Superfuckers - James Kochalka
Hicksville - Dylan Horrocks

demonrail666 08.06.2008 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels
Love & Rockets by Jaime & Gilbert Hernandez
ACME Novelty Library by Chris Ware
Secret Comics Japan - Edited by Chikao Shiratori
Eightball - Daniel Clowes
A Panorama of Hell - Hideshi Hino
El Borbah & Big Baby - Charles Burns
Goodbye & Other Stories - Yoshihiro Tatsumi
Buddha - Osamu Tezuka
Superfuckers - James Kochalka
Hicksville - Dylan Horrocks


Did you ever read Yummy Fur, or Hate?

!@#$%! 08.06.2008 10:42 AM

i haven't been a comic book fan for a long time, i used to read comics when i was 3 and then there was this huge span where n more comics-- however

PREACHER has been some of the most awesome shit i've read in a while.

the rest, i'm still sniffing around. LOVE & ROCKETS i've liked, but i'm not sure of what i've read or in what order, etc.

floatingslowly 08.06.2008 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by batreleaser
4. wolverine: origins; written by daniel way; illustrated by steve dillon.
i just thing wolverine is the raddest superhero ever. this is his best solo series


I have this! I think there are only 4 in the series, right?



it's been too long for me but: STRAY TOASTERS

batreleaser 08.06.2008 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by floatingslowly
I have this! I think there are only 4 in the series, right?



it's been too long for me but: STRAY TOASTERS


si senor

everyone here seems to be into the more underground type comics. i like a love a lot of those too, but it seems that comic books is the one medium where i prefer the more popular ones to the more underground ones

Rob Instigator 08.06.2008 11:01 AM

I am stricking to graphic novels, not comic series like love and rockets, hate, or 8-ball, even though I love them)

WATCHMEN - have read it 6 times. it always hits me hard.

MAUS - have read it 4 times. fascinating and so personal. unbelievable story.

FROM HELL - have read it three times. so freaking great, and the chapter where , without much dialogue, they show the final murder of jack the ripper. that shit freaks me out every time. fascinating ephemera too, including source material listings and discussions of every scene!!!

DARK KNIGHT RETURNS - have read it 5-6 times. shoplifted the leather bound collected copy back in the early early 90's. fucking amazing amazing amazing

Toilet & Bowels 08.06.2008 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demonrail666
Did you ever read Yummy Fur, or Hate?


Yep, some of Chester Brown's stuff I like, but I get a bit tired of these "sensitive" comic writers writing about themselves, Hate I like but I wouldn't call it a favourite.

Crumb's Crunchy Delights 08.06.2008 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pbradley
Everything I know about comics (which seems like a lot to my roommate and some friends but its really just limited to knowing origins and particular events like Secret Wars) but I've never really read a whole series or anything. I just read whatever my brother got when I was so young (I think around eight).

However, I did just finish reading Watchmen for the upcoming film.

i agree

Toilet & Bowels 08.06.2008 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pbradley
Everything I know about comics (which seems like a lot to my roommate and some friends but its really just limited to knowing origins and particular events like Secret Wars) but I've never really read a whole series or anything.


what kind of a sentence is that?

demonrail666 08.06.2008 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels
Yep, some of Chester Brown's stuff I like, but I get a bit tired of these "sensitive" comic writers writing about themselves, Hate I like but I wouldn't call it a favourite.


I think the Yummy Fur series on it's own was incredibly good, but it did spawn a lot of rubbish. Hate was just good fun, like an Andy Cap for Big Black fans.

acousticrock87 08.06.2008 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels
what kind of a sentence is that?

A compound-complex sentence strongly lacking a predicate, I think.

Pax Americana 08.06.2008 06:50 PM

In no real order:

Watchmen
Y The Last Man
Star Wars: Dark Times (I like a lot of Star Wars shit honestly)
Sin City
Dark Knight Returns
Batman: The Long Halloween (I like Batman comics in general)
Astonishing X-Men
Ultimate Spider-Man (I stopped reading this, but it was good a while ago)
Pax Romana
Locke And Key (This is fairly new, and I'm liking it so far)

Derek 08.06.2008 06:52 PM

I've never actually read a graphic novel. Weird.

Everyneurotic 08.06.2008 07:08 PM

i like this thread as i will start reading comix soon.

acousticrock87 08.06.2008 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by batreleaser

4. wolverine: origins; written by daniel way; illustrated by steve dillon.
i just thing wolverine is the raddest superhero ever. this is his best solo series

That was a fucking great mini-series thing. My friend got the actual comics when they came out and I was extremely jealous. I was a few weeks late and they were already going for a fortune, so I got the graphic novel version.

atari 2600 08.06.2008 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by batreleaser
for serious geeks only.

1. the watchmen; written by alan moore; illustrated by dave gibbons.
an obvious choice, but cmon, its perfect.

2. batman: the killing joke; written by alan moore; illustrated by brian bolland.
hadnt read this since i was a kid, but after watching the 'dark knight' i had to pick up a copy, ive been obsessed ever since. its almost perfect, the art is amazing, and moore's writing is as usual, top notch. the ending with batman and the joker sharing a joke and a hysterical laugh is excellent. only thing i dont dig about this is the origin story, joker should have no origin story.

3. batman: the dark knight returns; written and illustrated by frank miller.
probably the only series that as a story could compare to the watchmen. the aging batman is an interesting conception of the icon, and the art, well, is fantastic.

4. wolverine: origins; written by daniel way; illustrated by steve dillon.
i just thing wolverine is the raddest superhero ever. this is his best solo series

5. the swamp thing; written by alan moore; illustrated by tom yeates
one of the greatest testaments to moore's talents. he took a stupud as fuck comic series about some super hero plant monster, and totally revamped it into a terrifying horror comic series about a hero plant monster. i remember when i was a little kid i had this videotape animated swampthing movie, i used to watch it millions of times over with my dad. i was 8 when i discovered there was a comic book about swamp thing, when i found alan moore's version, my eyes were stuck to that thing for months.

6. sin city; written and illustrated by frank miller
it got really trendy after the movie, but anyone who has read these cant deny how fucking awesome, fucked up, and spooky they really are. the neo noir meets horror tales of murderous prostitutes, a psychopathic cannibal with a pet wolf, a yellow head child mollestor, and marv, how the fuck could any geek not love this? the movie aint bad either.

7. from hell; written by alan moore, illustrated by eddie cambell
a terrifying look into the motives driving jack the ripper. the book is as scary as any true crime novels, its like 'helter skelter', only it has awesome pictures.

8. uncanny x men; writen by stan lee (and a shitload others); illustrated by jack kirby
its original x men, it fucking rules.

9. batman: year one; written by frank miller; illustratred by david mazzuchelli
it says in the liner notes that in the early 80s, dc was getting smoked by marvel comics (with good reason). they knew thier biggest series were becoming dated. they had to revamp thier franchise, and started with thier three biggest icons; superman, wonder woman, and batman. the problem with batman was that his back story was already perfect. so instead of changing his origin, they simp;y improved it. and with the help of frank miller, improved it they did. excellent origin story, very interesting conception of bruce wayne, and easily one of the most violent of all the batman series.

10. v for vendetta; written by alan moore; illustrated by david lloyd.
so fucking ambitious. nobody would ever think of comics as a means of warning the public of a bleak dystopan future.

well, from this thread you have now all the proof you need that im a nerd. i could care fucking less.

its also obvious that i am really into the work of frank miller and alan moore. moore is like the william s burroughs of comic books if you ask me.


I've actually read all of these except for the Uncanny X-Men. Really liked the Wolverine too. A friend of mine has a brother that had all of them and he was my library. Also, I really liked the Moebius/Stan Lee collabs for Silver Surfer and liked Airtight Garage and some other Moebius titles. Although, The Dark Knight Returns story is okay, I seem to remember that I didn't really dig the illustration as much as you. I rank Year One higher, or at least I think I do.

Toilet & Bowels 08.07.2008 05:58 AM

as far as x-men goes i much prefer chris claremont's run on uncanny x-men and grant morrison's run on new x-men. astonishing x-men is great too, as were the district x and nyx mini-series.


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