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Skuj 03.13.2021 07:30 PM

I thought Jan 6th was going to be an earth-shattering wake-up call for most of us. But look at what the Republicunts have done since then. They are still lining up at Mara-Lago to kiss the ring.

Skuj 03.15.2021 04:22 PM

https://www.sarahforgovernor.com/

Just in case anybody wants to donate.

(Let's face it....this lyin' Bitch is going to be Governor.)

!@#$%! 03.15.2021 04:33 PM

i'll donate a fresh turd

The Soup Nazi 03.17.2021 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Skuj
I thought Jan 6th was going to be an earth-shattering wake-up call for most of us.



Washington Post exclusive, March 16:

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Army initially pushed to deny District’s request for National Guard before Jan. 6

The Army initially pushed to reject the D.C. government’s request for a modest National Guard presence ahead of the Jan. 6 rally that led to the Capitol riot, underscoring the deep reluctance of some higher-ups at the Pentagon to involve the military in security arrangements that day.

In an internal draft memo obtained by The Washington Post, the Army said the U.S. military shouldn’t be needed to help police with traffic and crowd management, as city officials had requested, unless more than 100,000 demonstrators were expected.

The draft memo also said the request should be denied because a federal agency hadn’t been identified to run the preparations and on-the-day operations; the resources of other federal agencies hadn’t been exhausted; and law enforcement was “far better suited” for the task.

The Army leadership made its position clear in deliberations at the Pentagon the weekend before the event, citing those reasons among others, according to four people familiar with the discussions, who like others in this report spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal Defense Department matters.

The Army ultimately relented after facing pressure from acting defense secretary Christopher C. Miller and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Gen. Mark A. Milley, and realizing that District officials weren’t going to turn to the Justice Department for help instead, as the Army had wanted, the people said.

Army Secretary Ryan D. McCarthy agreed to support the request, so long as a lead agency was identified and all other federal agencies “exhausted their assets to support these events,” according to the recommendation he gave in a revised final memo to Miller, who approved the request.

Still, the Army’s initial impulse to consider refusing military involvement in the security arrangements — even though the Guard is trained to assist law enforcement during large-scale protests and has done so regularly for decades in the District — shows the extraordinary steps officials at the Pentagon were taking to stay away from what was shaping up to be a politically toxic and volatile moment for the nation.

[Read: Memo and initial draft show how Army changed course on Jan. 6 prep]

Col. Cathy Wilkinson, a spokeswoman for the Army, said in a statement that the Pentagon provided 340 members of the D.C. Guard to help with street closures and crowd control as asked.

“Clearly, the Mayor’s request was approved and supported,” Wilkinson said. “The draft memo was not signed or approved. It is customary for the Army staff to provide options for Army senior leaders to inform their decision making process.”

The Army’s previously undisclosed draft memo advocating against the deployment ahead of the pro-Trump rally sheds light on the thinking of leaders involved in the security arrangements, which permitted one of the biggest national security failures since the 9/11 attacks.

In the weeks since the riot, top Pentagon officials have emphasized that the Capitol Police and federal agencies didn’t request military backup before the event, leaving the Defense Department unprepared to respond rapidly when the situation got out of control. The draft memo, however, suggests that the Army leadership also had been disinclined to get involved from the start.

Reluctance at the Pentagon about the deployment of the D.C. Guard during the preparations also raises questions about when it is appropriate to use the U.S. military on domestic soil. While top Pentagon officials have emphasized that military force should be used to support domestic law enforcement only as a last resort, that maxim has traditionally been understood to apply to active-duty forces — not the National Guard.

Unlike in the 50 states, where governors control the National Guard, the D.C. Guard answers to the president, who delegates authority to the defense secretary and Army secretary. The mayor of the District of Columbia can only request that the federal government deploy the D.C. Guard.

The thinking of Pentagon leaders before and during the riot is now facing scrutiny from lawmakers who have accused the Defense Department of reacting too slowly to the Capitol Police’s 11th-hour plea for military assistance, as rioters breached the Capitol in a catastrophic security failure.

Despite the unanswered questions, the political appointees and generals who were leading the Pentagon on Jan. 6 haven’t been called to testify publicly on the matter before Congress, as lawmakers attempt to understand how the Capitol could have been left so vulnerable to attack.

[Pentagon placed limits on D.C. Guard ahead of pro-Trump protests]

Maj. Gen. William J. Walker, the commanding general of the D.C. Guard, told lawmakers on March 3 that after receiving a panicked call from the chief of the Capitol Police, he had to wait three hours and 19 minutes before the Pentagon allowed him to send his available forces to the building.

Even when the situation spiraled out of control, and the Capitol Police pleaded for backup from the military, Army Lt. Gen. Walter E. Piatt and Lt. Gen. Charles A. Flynn, the brother of the former national security adviser, articulated why it would be better for the military not to be directly involved, according to Walker. Piatt and Flynn were not part of the D.C. Guard’s chain of command.

Pentagon officials have denied that their response was delayed, describing the arrival of the D.C. Guard about three hours after the call for help as a quick rollout, considering that the military hadn’t been postured or asked to provide backup to the Capitol Police if needed.

“We were asked to support the Capitol from a cold start after it already had been overrun and are being criticized for how we fast we responded,” said a former Pentagon official involved in the events that day. “We are not like law enforcement units whose job it is to police the streets.”

Fears of over-militarization

By the time of the riot, Pentagon leaders had become skittish about using the military to support law enforcement on domestic soil.

In June, Milley and then-defense secretary Mark T. Esper were excoriated by lawmakers and retired military personnel for appearing alongside President DonaldTrump as federal law enforcement cleared racial-justice protesters near the White Houseusing force and pepper balls.

They also faced blowback more broadly for militarizing Washington, with more than 5,000 National Guard troops in the city and 1,600 active-duty forces amassed nearby, in response to the unrest that followed the police killing of George Floyd.

The D.C. Guard flew helicopters low over protesters, and the Justice Department put uniformed agents with no insignia from the Bureau of Prisons on the streets, enraging city officials.

The fallout from the Nov. 3 election deepened the reluctance at the Pentagon.

Trump ousted Esper after the vote, raising worries that the president was paving the way for extrajudicial action using the military. Days later, Milley gave a pointed speech, saying members of the U.S. military “do not take an oath to a king or queen, tyrant or dictator,” but rather to the Constitution.

Still, Trump began taking increasingly extreme measures to remain in power. After his former national security adviser, retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, suggested that Trump could “rerun” the Nov. 3 vote, all 10 living former defense secretaries penned a letter warning the Pentagon to keep the military out of the presidential transition.

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The Soup Nazi 03.17.2021 10:59 AM

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The military as a last resort

On Dec. 31, city officials, also wary of a repeat of June, submitted a narrow request to the Pentagon for help from the D.C. Guard with traffic and crowd control on Jan. 6, which the D.C. Guard determined would require 340 personnel.

The Army thought the proposal was light on details and didn’t want to authorize it after a first-blush review that resulted in the draft memo, a former senior Pentagon official said, noting that the Army and senior leadership were “scarred by the experiences of June” and that the military has long been hesitant to deploy for domestic matters involving law enforcement.

Senior officials were “very cognizant” that sending in the military “could be misconstrued by so many people as a power grab and play into the narrative that the military was on the cusp of overthrowing duly elected officials to redo an election,” the former official said.

Asked to explain the Army’s position, the other former Pentagon official said: “It is customary practice that law enforcement assets have to be utilized and near exhaustion before DoD will support operations. It is not an official policy but is designed to reinforce that military should be used as a last resort.”

But while top Pentagon leaders have stressed since June that active-duty troops should be used to support domestic law enforcement only as a last resort, the National Guard is used regularly for such missions across the nation.

District officials routinely ask for help from the D.C. Guard for major events, mostly to help with traffic control to free up police officers for other duties.

The D.C. Guard, for example, helped with last year’s July 4 event and aided the city in handling a march on Washington led by the Rev. Al Sharpton in August. The Guard even deployed to prevent large crowds from gathering and spreading the coronavirus during the 2020 cherry blossom festivities.

A District official familiar with the security plans on Jan. 6 couldn’t recall any historical example of the Defense Department rejecting the city’s request to deploy the D.C. Guard.

During a preparatory call ahead of the pro-Trump rally, McCarthy suggested that the city get help from the Justice Department’s Bureau of Prisons, according to the District official. D.C. officials refused, citing concerns they had with federal agents last summer.

City officials thought the D.C. Guard was a better fit, calling the force “a tactical ready unit” that was familiar with the area and had worked with local law enforcement regularly during large-scale events, according to the District official.

According to the former senior Pentagon official, top defense officials discussed the request on calls over the holiday weekend before the Jan. 6 event. Miller had “strong inclinations to support the mayor,” the former senior official said, and eventually Pentagon leaders came to a consensus to grant the request.

The Army approved the request because District officials refused to ask for extra help from federal law enforcement as Army officials had wanted, according to the former Pentagon official.

“It was obvious we didn’t want to find ourselves in a situation where [the D.C. police] needed help and we denied it,” the former Pentagon official said.

After the Pentagon approved the Guard mission, D.C. Mayor Muriel E. Bower (D) sent a letter on Jan. 5 confirming that the city had not requested additional personnel from federal law enforcement. She said the D.C. police were “well trained and prepared” for the event.

Demand for a lead federal agency

The Army leadership also felt strongly that the military shouldn’t be used unless a federal agency was designated to lead the activities.

White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows told Miller and acting attorney general Jeffrey Rosen that the Justice Department would serve as the “lead” agency, according to people familiar with the arrangement.

As the “federal lead,” the Justice Department essentially was in charge of coordination for the various agencies, a federal law enforcement official familiar with the preparations said.

The designation pertained only to the Justice Department, the FBI, the Defense Department and the Interior Department, the official said, and did not cover the Capitol, where Capitol Police oversee security.

The designation was so vague that officials in the District government and at the D.C. Guard didn’t even know that the Justice Department was functioning as the “lead agency.” The Justice Department declined to comment.

The arrangement fell far short of what happens when the Department of Homeland Security designates a National Special Security Event. On those occasions, such as during the presidential inauguration or the State of the Union address, there is a clear command structure, in which the Secret Service sits atop all the other federal and local agencies. The Jan. 6 event wasn’t declared an NSSE.

The former Pentagon official said the Army leadership wanted to ensure there was a command-and-control architecture for appropriate decision-making and information-sharing before and during the event. The official said the Justice Department fell short of ensuring that.

The D.C. Guard deployment also went ahead, even though federal resources hadn’t been exhausted, as McCarthy had stipulated as a condition in his final memo recommending approval.

Ultimately, the Army leadership approved the Guard mission because it didn’t want to put the District government in a tough place, the former Pentagon official said.

The Soup Nazi 03.17.2021 11:50 AM

^ Alright, for the tl;dr crowd: the putsch wasn't just Apocalypse Fuckface riling up a bunch of turds; it was an operation that involved several areas of government and law enforcement, and you do not need to be any kind of conspiracy theorist to believe it - the facts are there.

The Soup Nazi 03.17.2021 12:41 PM

Say, anyone here remembers Stephanie Grisham? No, because she was the White House press secretary who never held a single goddamn press conference. Anyway, according to a new book by ABC White House correspondent Jon Karl, The Nonwork Orange gave her some seriously deluded shit at one point - the details from The Independent:

Trump called former press secretary 'weak' and 'worthless' for refusing to ban Kaitlan Collins from briefings

Here's the kicker: "Ms Collins appeared to confirm the story on Twitter, posting a photo of the excerpt along with the caption, 'Thanks for the memories.' She addressed the tweet to Mr Karl and Politico."

 

The Soup Nazi 03.17.2021 04:36 PM

CHRIST ON A STICK I HATE THIS MANCHIN FUCK. And he recently said he wasn't comfortable with his newfound position as a scale-tipper - BULLSHIT, he's loving every second of it.

Skuj 03.20.2021 02:21 PM

Pelosi was talking about a 9/11 type Commission for 1/6, and I need to look up where that is going. The 9/11 thing was done when Republicans were at least sane. I don't see how you can have a bipartisan group doing 1/6 in this era. Here we are in March 2021, and Trump still controls the party. You cannot make this shit up.

Skuj 03.22.2021 05:06 PM

https://thehill.com/regulation/court...nions-13b-suit

Good luck, Bitch!!

Check out the defence: Her attorneys argued that "reasonable people would not accept such statements as fact but view them only as claims that await testing by the courts through the adversary process."

In other words, it really was just bullshit.

_tunic_ 03.23.2021 07:01 AM

I'm just gonna quote this again, because jesus fucking christ that the stupidest thing I've read in a long time!!!!


"reasonable people would not accept such statements as fact"



I hope Dominion will sue Trump for this as well ...


The Soup Nazi 03.25.2021 10:29 PM

Final voting results show major setback for Israel's Netanyahu

Netanyahu has no clear path to remain prime minister, official Israeli election results show


Etc: https://news.google.com/stories/CAAq...S&ceid=US%3Aen. I'll believe it when I see him GONE. The piece of shit is the ultimate political survivor. :mad:

Skuj 03.27.2021 03:13 PM

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...aul-in-georgia

I may have mentioned this before, but when it comes to Voter Suppression, the GOP are the absolute masters. It's not even a contest.

(And if Trump is applauding something, you know it is bad.)

Skuj 03.27.2021 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi
Final voting results show major setback for Israel's Netanyahu

Netanyahu has no clear path to remain prime minister, official Israeli election results show


Etc: https://news.google.com/stories/CAAq...S&ceid=US%3Aen. I'll believe it when I see him GONE. The piece of shit is the ultimate political survivor. :mad:



I must be listening to fake news.

Edit: Indeed, the final vote count is bad for this Trump Loving Fuckwad. Good news.

tw2113 03.27.2021 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Skuj
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...aul-in-georgia

I may have mentioned this before, but when it comes to Voter Suppression, the GOP are the absolute masters. It's not even a contest.

(And if Trump is applauding something, you know it is bad.)



I can sort of see why they think they need to do this, "the person supplying the goods may be trying to get them to vote democrat, can't have that type of solicitation" when in reality it'd probably mostly be "you look thirsty, have this" and that's it.

The Soup Nazi 03.27.2021 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Skuj
I must be listening to fake news.

Edit: Indeed, the final vote count is bad for this Trump Loving Fuckwad. Good news.


I didn't mean I didn't believe the vote count reports; my point was he's been in this situation before and he always finds some way to assemble a coalition that will keep him in power.

Skuj 03.28.2021 01:52 PM

Yeah, sorry - to be clear, the initial news that I heard was simply that he would be PM again.

The Soup Nazi 03.28.2021 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Skuj
Edit: Indeed, the final vote count is bad for this Trump Loving Fuckwad. Good news.


By the way, I don't think Netanyahu loves anybody. Behind closed doors, the guy must have laughed like a drain at Trump and Kushner's gigantic ignorance and stupidity.

The Soup Nazi 03.29.2021 11:01 PM

The kind of headline that makes a dreadful scenario sound a bit more positive. Not really. :( Opinion column in The Washington Post:

The House looks like a GOP lock in 2022, but the Senate will be much harder

Kevin McCarthy as speaker - I'm getting nauseous already...

 

The Soup Nazi 03.30.2021 10:38 PM

 

The Soup Nazi 04.01.2021 09:28 PM

From Paste:

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Democrats Are Finally Fighting in the Legislative Trenches. Good.

A moment comes, in any endeavor, when you have a last chance to take a shot, and when taking that shot is the only possible route to success. Looked at from the other direction, it’s a situation so desperate that it doesn’t matter if you fail, because failure is also the price of inaction. It also doesn’t matter how you fail; there’s no longer a need any half-measures, because the worst outcome stays the same. The safety net is gone. In such circumstances, you might as well go for broke.

That’s where Democrats find themselves in 2020. Lose the midterms, and Republicans control both chambers of Congress, and the best-case scenario is that Biden keeps the presidency in 2024 and we maintain the status quo, which is a slow stalemate that leads to ruin. But how do you lose the midterms? Three ways:

1. Inaction. The president’s party routinely struggles in midterms, and doing nothing, whether because of Republican obstructionism, Senate rules designed to handcuff the ruling party, or the constant rebellion of Joe Manchin types, leads to one place: Annihilation in 2022.

2. Watered down compromise material. If, in order to lure the Manchin/Sinema “moderates” (or worse, to suffer the delusion that you might sway actual Republican), Biden and the Democrat Senate and House turn in feckless pieces of legislation whose benefits are difficult to explain and harder for people to understand, full of means testing and compromise measures, you will lose the midterms. We saw it happen with Obama; it will happen again.

3. Go for broke and fail. Try to get everything you want, by hook or by crook, even if it means setting up the circumstances for the other party to do the same when they take power. Try to show the American people that you’re serious about doing something for them, but get blocked by Manchin/Sinema or the parliamentarian or Republicans or just bad luck. In that case, you also lose.

Here’s the key point, though, and it hearkens back to that first paragraph: We’ve reached the point of no return. If you fail now, in any way, it doesn’t matter what the fallout looks like, because you’ve failed for good. The sheer amount of people who came out to vote for Trump, even though he lost, was our first indication that even as bad as things get in this country, seemingly nothing will steer us off course from the polarization that leads to a near 50/50 split. If you can’t change that now, at least to gain a slight edge through smart, beneficial policy, it’s likely that it will never happen. We cannot afford a stalemate—not with climate change and its promise of pending catastrophe—and we certainly can’t afford Republican control.

In short: A loss looks the same no matter how you achieve it. A loss is catastrophe. Given that, which of the three options above would you choose? The answer, of course, is no. 3: If you’re going to lose, you might as well shoot your shot.

Luckily, that seems to be exactly what the Democrats are doing. Chuck Schumer, who hasn’t exactly inspired confidence with his past leadership, seems hellbent on passing Joe Biden’s infrastructure bill through Congress using budget reconciliation. Per Politico:
Schumer has asked the Senate parliamentarian, the upper chamber’s official adviser on procedural matters, for her OK to essentially recycle the same reconciliation process used to pass Biden’s pandemic aid package earlier this month. But his request, if granted, would further stretch a legislative tool that wasn’t designed for the sorts of policy goals that both parties have used it to pursue.
You may remember the Senate parliamentarian, whose arbitrary ruling during the COVID relief package screwed Americans out of a $15 minimum wage. It’s an open question whether this parliamentarian, Elizabeth MacDonough, will grant the request, but if she does, it will open the door for Democrats to pass almost anything they want using reconciliation. As it stands now, 60 votes are needed to overcome a Republican filibuster, and with just 50 senators on the side of the Democrats, that is an impossible number. If this reconciliation tactic works, 50 votes will be the new threshold for almost any piece of legislation.

Because this is the Senate, it comes with complications. These include voting marathons, compulsory time spent on the floor in both Houses, and the highlighting of potential Democrat infighting—mostly involving, yes, Joe Manchin—that would otherwise not emerge in the world of an effective filibuster. It’s ugly, and it’s mind-numbing, and it could lead to the parliamentarian killing whole chunks of Democratic policy if they don’t follow every arcane rule in the book. Should it work, it also paves the way for Republicans to do the same thing when and if they retake power.

It’s also, at the moment, the only way. As nice as it would be to kill the filibuster once and for all, if that proves impossible, resting on your laurels is not an option. The fact that Democrats are picking their way through the rule book in an attempt to find a loophole is a very good thing—their time is now, and they can’t afford to waste it.

Some of the quotes from legislators are hilarious:
“My reading of the text of that section [of the law] seems like it’s perfectly okay to do it,” the House Democratic lawmaker said. “I didn’t know it was ever in there.”
Between the infrastructure bill and a voting rights bill that emerges at a crucial time when red states are passing laws to restrict voting, there are some massive pieces of policy on the agenda. The infrastructure bill raises the corporate tax rate, and the voting rights bill…protects voting rights…which means that Republicans will be fiercely opposed to both. Passing them will require an incredible effort by Democrats, even just to get their own team on side. And outlets like the New York Times will continue to be fixated on why they can’t work, or the obstacles that stand in the way. It will be hard.

Still, when there’s nothing to lose, you might as well try to pass the laws of your dreams. There will be flaws in every piece of legislation, but for the first time in my lifetime, a Democratic president is actually taking progressive steps in the right direction, and he has the support of Congress. It’s an opportunity wasted by Barack Obama, but Joe Biden seems to know better. At this point, you have to capitalize on your advantage, or die trying. The Democrats are pulling out all the stops, and it’s stunning to witness for a country that has watched them engage in a decades-long shoulder shrug leading up to this administration. They must keep going, come hell or high water, and if failure is the result, at least fail grandly. Nothing is worse than knowing you didn’t try everything.

The Soup Nazi 04.02.2021 11:33 PM

If you thought this motherfucking shit was over... :(:mad:

h8kurdt 04.03.2021 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi


Turns out it was a black male who was with the nation of Islam that did it. Ruins the narrative for a lot of people I suspect.

The Soup Nazi 04.03.2021 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by h8kurdt
Turns out it was a black male who was with the nation of Islam that did it. Ruins the narrative for a lot of people I suspect.


Only partially. I'm sure that if it weren't for January 6th looney tunes of all stripes wouldn't actually crash into the Capitol.

Skuj 04.03.2021 06:50 PM

John Boehner is telling it like it is. It's a bit late though.

_tunic_ 04.04.2021 04:46 AM

Dutch politics is completely messed up since last Thursday. Really interesting what's going to happen next. Basically all political parties except for his own have strongly claimed that they distrust the demissionairy Prime Minister Rutte. After the elections of two weeks ago a new parliament needs to be formed. His party VVD came out as the largest, but no other party wants to form a coalition with him now. However without that party it's impossible to form a strong majority coalition

Dutch PM Rutte narrowly survives no-confidence vote

Skuj 04.04.2021 02:40 PM

We need to fight cancel culture with....er…..cancel culture!!

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-w...georgia-voting

The Soup Nazi 04.04.2021 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Skuj
John Boehner is telling it like it is. It's a bit late though.


From Zakaria's newsletter:

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“You could be a total moron and get elected just by having an R next to your name,” Boehner writes of the 2010 Republican-wave election—“and that year, by the way, we did pick up a fair number in that category.” Calling many in the Tea Party wing of his House conference “the crazies,” Boehner laments: “Incrementalism? Compromise? That wasn’t their thing. A lot of them wanted to blow up Washington. That’s why they thought they were elected.”

Yeah, and you embraced them, BONER, so you could be House Speaker. So not only is it too late, it's colossally hypocritical, which is now a requisite to belong to your party. So FUCK YOU. :fuckyou:

The Soup Nazi 04.04.2021 11:29 PM

And now FZ's latest Washington Post column:

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How Biden’s New Deal can really make America great again

While Donald Trump claimed he wanted to “Make America Great Again,” President Biden is attempting to actually do it. The former president’s slogan got Americans thinking nostalgically about the 1950s and early ’60s, when the United States dominated the world and its economy produced rising wages for workers and executives alike. A defining feature of those years was federal investment in infrastructure, scientific research and education. (Think interstate highways, NASA and the massive expansion of public universities.) By contrast, Washington in recent years has mostly spent money to fund private consumption by giving people tax cuts or transfer payments. Biden’s infrastructure plan is the first major fiscal program in five decades that would focus once again on investment.

When you look at federal spending as a whole, it seems to have risen significantly over the past few decades. But the composition of that spending tells the real story — most of that increase is a result of sharp rises in entitlement programs such as Medicare and Medicaid. Core investment spending has actually dropped substantially. The United States used to spend as much as 3 percent of its gross domestic product on transportation and water infrastructure; that number is now closer to 2 percent. The United States used to be the world’s unquestioned leader in basic science and technology. China is now almost on par with it.

Biden’s plan harks back to the New Deal. During the Great Depression, the Works Progress Administration (WPA) built or improved almost 1,000 airports, creating the backbone of the modern airline industry. The president’s proposal will help create a modern electric vehicle system by funding a network of 500,000 chargers. The 1936 Rural Electrification Act brought electricity to rural areas. Biden proposes doing the same with high-speed Internet, which he argues is the equivalent in today’s economy. The New Deal was bigger (relative to the size of the economy at the time), but it is the only valid comparison with what the Biden administration is proposing.

Where the spirit of the New Deal is sorely needed today is in the cost, efficiency and transparency of these kinds of projects. The United States used to be able to build things with astonishing speed. The George Washington Bridge, the world’s longest suspension bridge when it opened in 1931 across the Hudson River from Manhattan to New Jersey, was built in four years, ahead of schedule and under budget. By contrast, just adding two miles of new subway lines and three new stations in Manhattan took, depending on when you start counting, 10 to 100 years and ended up costing $4.5 billion by the time it opened in 2017.

Building infrastructure in the United States is insanely expensive. The New York Times found that another project in New York, an expansion of the Long Island Rail Road, was the most expensive subway track on Earth, coming in at seven times the world average. New York is particularly bad — in a league of its own — but U.S. infrastructure often costs several times more than it does in Europe. Paris, Rome and Madrid have managed to build subway extensions for less. Yet those cities are hundreds of years older than any in the United States, and they have many unions and tons of regulations. So none of the usual excuses will do.

One recent study found that the cost of building U.S. interstate highways quadrupled from the 1960s to the 1990s, though material and labor costs have barely budged (after accounting for inflation). There are lots of reasons: multiple authorities (each with a veto), endless rules and reviews, and likely corruption. New York University scholar Alon Levy did a detailed analysis of the country’s crazy costs and concluded that there were at least eight reasons for them. Fundamentally, though, he concluded that they were so high because Americans were unwilling or unable to look around the world and try to learn from other countries. American exceptionalism has led to an exceptional, uniquely bad system for building infrastructure.

By contrast, the New Deal was surprisingly well-run. The WPA employed 3 million people at its peak, more than any private company. In today’s workforce that would be about 10 million people. The entire enterprise was skillfully managed by Harry Hopkins, a social worker-turned-bureaucrat who was one of Franklin D. Roosevelt’s closest aides. The vast Tennessee Valley Authority — spanning seven states and eventually comprising about 30 hydroelectric dams — was devotedly led by David Lilienthal, a crusading lawyer. Most of the funds appropriated for the New Deal were administered scrupulously by Interior Secretary Harold Ickes, another confidant of FDR. Each of these men developed a reputation for honesty, efficiency and reliability, which in turn made people believe that government could do big things and do them well.

For the Biden administration to truly be transformative, it needs to rival not only the ambition of the New Deal but also its impressive execution.

Skuj 04.05.2021 07:14 PM

Ever since I've heard of Matt Gaetz, and his rabid love of all things Trump, I have wished for a meteorite to land on his head.

The latest news (DOJ investigation) wiil have to do, for now.

The Soup Nazi 04.05.2021 10:16 PM

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Ever since I've heard of Matt Gaetz, and his rabid love of all things Trump, I have wished for a meteorite to land on his head.


Isn't it impressive how most of these fuckers are also pieces of shit as human beings? The Democratic party has its share of crooks, for sure, but we could be here all the whole month listing corrupt-as-fuck Trumpians. It's not just the evil ideology - Steve Bannon turned out to be just another two-bit conman. Both things go hand in hand with these assholes.

Antagon 04.06.2021 01:07 PM

I could say plenty about how the Austrian chancellor fucked up in the process (intentionally putting a cap on the spending budget, whilst spending a shit ton of money on ads and self-serving promotion) of securing a certain amount of vaccines and is now trying to put the blame on other states in the EU. Subsequently costing the country billions and further curtailing the vaccination progress significantly. But that shit's a bit too depressing right now.

So here's a fuckup one can actually laugh at, for levity's sake. The Tyrolian fraction of Austria's premier far right party FPÖ, recently put out an ad for its Youth Organization - wanting to get young "patriots" to join. It's the usual drivel about "Being a patriot isn't a crime" and all that BS. For some reason though, they put a stock photo of Brooklyn Bridge Park to go with that ad. It's an absolute laughing stock on the Austrian social media right now. Ah yes, the Tyrol - fresh air, the alps, the grid plan, hey, I'm walkin' heeyah!
 

tw2113 04.06.2021 01:12 PM

Been stabbed, will get stabbed again later this month.

The Soup Nazi 04.06.2021 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by tw2113
Been stabbed, will get stabbed again later this month.


Wrong thread. More power to ya, though. :D

 

tw2113 04.07.2021 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by The Soup Nazi
Wrong thread. More power to ya, though. :D


 



It's all political in some way.

The Soup Nazi 04.07.2021 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by tw2113
It's all political in some way.


Indeed. "It's all one song!"Neil Young

The Soup Nazi 04.08.2021 01:13 AM

From The Washington Post:

McConnell says companies should stay out of politics — unless they’re donating money

Sounds like the headline of an opinion piece, but the guy actually said it. The son of a bitch! OK, the complete text:

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After the Supreme Court ruled in 2010 that companies could finance election spending, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R) celebrated the prospect that corporate America would enter— and influence — the political fray.

“For too long, some in this country have been deprived of full participation in the political process,” he said in a statement at the time. He hailed the decision, Citizens United, as “an important step” in “restoring the First Amendment rights of these groups.”

But just over a decade later, McConnell has a different message for companies: Unless it involves money, they had better stay quiet.

“My warning to corporate America is to stay out of politics,” McConnell said at a news conference in Kentucky on Tuesday, before adding: “I’m not talking about political contributions.”

His comments come amid an escalating battle over Georgia’s sweeping new voting law, which has been publicly condemned by major companies based in the state, including Coca-Cola and Delta Air Lines. Major League Baseball has moved its All-Star Game out of Atlanta in response to the legislation, saying it will restrict access to the ballot.

Similar showdowns appear to be brewing elsewhere, with American Airlines criticizing a Texas bill that would prohibit extended voting hours and outlaw drive-through voting across the state, among several other major changes.

McConnell has long supported companies’ political participation, but on Tuesday he joined the Republican charge to attack corporations for speaking out on the voting laws by drawing a distinction between donations and corporate statements.

“Most of them contribute to both sides. They have political action committees. That’s fine. It’s legal. It’s appropriate. I support that,” he told reporters. “I’m talking about taking a position on a highly incendiary issue like this and punishing a community or state because you don’t like a particular law they passed. I just think it’s stupid.”

In a statement earlier this week, he argued that the Georgia voting law would in fact make it easier to access the polls and issued a warning to companies condemning the changes: If they continue to oppose Republicans and engage in “economic blackmail,” McConnell said, they would face unspecified repercussions.

“From election law to environmentalism to radical social agendas to the Second Amendment, parts of the private sector keep dabbling in behaving like a woke parallel government,” McConnell said in a statement. “Corporations will invite serious consequences if they become a vehicle for far-left mobs to hijack our country from outside the constitutional order.”

In the past, McConnell has often spoken in starkly different terms about the role of big business in democracy, as NPR noted in a recent episode of its podcast “Embedded.”

Even while working as an attorney in Kentucky during the 1970s, a young McConnell argued for more money in politics before a college class he taught.

“The three things you need to succeed in politics and to build a political party — money, money, money,” he wrote on the chalkboard during one memorable lesson, NPR reported.

That belief followed him to Washington, where he continued to argue that it is a First Amendment right to spend money on politics. And he practiced it himself: McConnell collected millions of dollars in campaign contributions — and notably, filibustered several bills to regulate the industry.

In the Senate, he battled with John McCain, the GOP senator from Arizona, over campaign finance reform. After McCain teamed up with Sen. Russ Feingold (D-Wis.) to limit “soft money” donations made through parties and committees, their bill was repeatedly filibustered by McConnell.

When the Senate finally passed the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act in 2002 with a bare-minimum tally of 60 votes, McConnell sued the Federal Election Commission to block the legislation. That lawsuit, McConnell v. FEC, upheld most parts of the law but eventually gave way to the 2010 Citizens United ruling that he fervently backed.

With some Georgia-based companies now vocal on the state’s voting law, McConnell warned he was not the only one upset over their political statements. Just as companies can put their money behind their politics, loyal members of his party could do the same, he said.

“Republicans drink Coca-Cola, too, and we fly, and we like baseball,” he said. “It’s irritating one hell of a lot of Republican fans.”

Skuj 04.10.2021 04:12 PM

He also, with a straight face, said that he would vote for Trump if Trump is the nominee.

This, after the Jan 6th fiasco, and his comments on that.

Mitch McConnell is one of the worst human beings ever.

tw2113 04.10.2021 05:35 PM

"for the greater good"

The Soup Nazi 04.13.2021 07:37 PM

Chubby Gaetz is going down...


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