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Pookie 11.23.2006 07:35 AM

CD's are dead.
 
http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/music/20...e_downloa.html

screamingskull 11.23.2006 07:36 AM

poppy cock

Pookie 11.23.2006 07:38 AM

More cocky pop I'd say.

whorefrost 11.23.2006 07:49 AM

I guess CDs really were the yuppie's 8-track.

porkmarras 11.23.2006 07:51 AM

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to whorefrost again.

whorefrost 11.23.2006 08:06 AM

Hey gimme hollow stimulation
Its so sleazy to be free
Lets invest in dull creation
Thrill city cheap legacy
What a waste
Yr so chaste
I can't wait
To taste yr face
vapid signals lead me to you
a sublime spectacular dud
safe and sound from chatter confusion
get the picture yes it's clear as mud

lyrics: thurston moore/kim gordon 2006

LittlePuppetBoy 11.23.2006 12:48 PM

that is so stupid

atari 2600 11.23.2006 01:43 PM

CD's are dead.

yet more apostrophe issues

HaydenAsche 11.23.2006 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atari 2600
CD's are dead.

yet more apostrophe issues


A+.

atari 2600 11.23.2006 01:47 PM

I guess many here were home-schooled; as we already know, many were raised in a barn teehee.

HaydenAsche 11.23.2006 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atari 2600
I guess many here were home-schooled; as we already know, many were raised in a barn teehee.


Home-schoolers are the downfall of society.

atari 2600 11.23.2006 01:56 PM

The article does highlight a few valid points...obvious ones, but valid nonetheless.

Glice 11.23.2006 02:05 PM

The reason for the apostrophe, albeit wrong, is that many of us were taught that the apostrophe tells us when things have been omitted - like the 'o' in 'haven't'. In the case of CDs, the logic is that the 'isc' of 'disc' has been omitted prior to its pluralisation. It's a very common mistake, but I feel it's a little remiss to criticise it. I'm all for the onward-thrust of grammatical-Nazism via internet message boards, but please people, let's head for the grave offenders rather than the odd typo/ forgivable mistake.

*EDIT: I <3 HYPHENS. MORE PLEASE.

HaydenAsche 11.23.2006 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glice
The reason for the apostrophe, albeit wrong, is that many of us were taught that the apostrophe tells us when things have been omitted - like the 'o' in 'haven't'. In the case of CDs, the logic is that the 'isc' of 'disc' has been omitted prior to its pluralisation. It's a very common mistake, but I feel it's a little remiss to criticise it. I'm all for the onward-thrust of grammatical-Nazism via internet message boards, but please people, let's head for the grave offenders rather than the odd typo/ forgivable mistake.

*EDIT: I <3 HYPHENS. MORE PLEASE.

Can-do.

jon boy 11.23.2006 02:39 PM

hurray for everything.

atari 2600 11.23.2006 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glice
The reason for the apostrophe, albeit wrong, is that many of us were taught that the apostrophe tells us when things have been omitted - like the 'o' in 'haven't'. In the case of CDs, the logic is that the 'isc' of 'disc' has been omitted prior to its pluralisation. It's a very common mistake, but I feel it's a little remiss to criticise it. I'm all for the onward-thrust of grammatical-Nazism via internet message boards, but please people, let's head for the grave offenders rather than the odd typo/ forgivable mistake.

*EDIT: I <3 HYPHENS. MORE PLEASE.


By no means does internet messageboard grammar have to pass a fucking English professor's inspection or be held up to undue scrutiny.

But, on the other hand, I am just trying to assist the writer and those reading by informing them of the improper usage because I see otherwise good writers (people that are attempting to write well, and for that I'm glad) making these types of grammatical mistakes all the time on this board.

It's good to do away with bad writing habits and not reinforce them. Your parents might have had to break their backs to send you to a good school at some point or to move to an area with highly regarded public schools, for instance, and to pay that back with poor grammar is an insult to them and displays a lack of respect for yourself as well.
Just try and submit a resume for a real position that's riddled with such errors. People hiring see goofs like that and immediately toss your shit as a result.

Glice 11.23.2006 07:29 PM

Fair enough.

Cantankerous 11.24.2006 12:41 AM

i like how it says "pixes" instead of "pixies" on the CD display.

CDs suck ass.

nomowish 11.24.2006 12:44 AM

I'm so illiterate about downloading music and I plan on staying that way. Maybe if records didn't come with art I wouldn't care. Yeah, I don't think I would. In fact I've thought about getting into vinyl simply because the cover art is bigger.

k-krack 11.24.2006 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bytor Peltor
It's a big lie from the pit of hell! SURE - groups / artist that release crap are probably seeing their product not move at all. There are too many artist / new labels popping up now days to prove that article wrong. Granted, the labels that are successful are so due to them specializing in a certain type of music / sound......but they are making money!

One thing that I have NEVER understood and I hope someone here has a good answer for me: how can DVD's & books cost just about the same as new cd's when they first come out and after just a few months, end up costing next to nothing? Take the movie 'The Wedding Singer.' You can pick up the DVD now for $7.50 - $9 at Wal-Mart or other such stores......or you might find it in a bundle with two other DVD's and the total cost is $15 for all three. However, the 'Wedding Singer' soundtrack is still something like $15 - $17 bucks......WHY? The same is true for most books. Brand new they can cost $20 or more and six months later, you can pick them up for close to half-price......WHY?


Here, new cds are almost always cheaper than normal, and then the prices skyrocket up to around $21.99, (from ~$10-15) after a couple of months.

zedius 11.24.2006 12:28 PM

I downloaded an mp3 from itunes once. It was "Shot", by Neil Young. I downloaded it on my girlfriend's computer while she was living in a different city. I took it home on my flash drive and found out I couln't play it away from her computer. Fuck Apple and fuck their .m4a files.

I will never buy another mp3 until there is a distribution system that allows me to buy unprotected MP3s.

CDs are wonderful. CD shopping is fun. The art is worth it, and more importantly I like to have to sit through "bloated albums" because the "rubbish" consists of all the songs that it takes effort to sit through and understand the album as an album. The singles on a sonic youth album, for example, are never as important as the album itself. They're just catchy songs to grab your attention to the rest of the masterpiece.

I consider mp3s a means to distribute a band's name without major label marketing, and whenever I find a new band with a myspace profile that pumps incredible new music into my ears I only wish I could pick up the album.

I think a lot of other people feel the same.

Glice 11.24.2006 12:37 PM

In terms of the making money part of the music industry, CDs are dead. People who listen to whole albums, absorb artwork and post on message boards are, increasingly, a marginal market. There's a lot more money to be made out of mp3s. No packaging, easy marketing, increased consumption (you don't have to even wander down to the store or wait for it to be delivered). Albums won't die, but I doubt the younger generation of casual music listeners (not the sort of people who'll post here) will bother with buying artwork and physical copy any more.

I don't buy mp3s, but I don't disapprove of them. CD albums won't die, but they probably won't increase in sales - inasmuch as single whole albums won't sell enormous amounts of physical copy an more, but I suspect album sales overall will go up. The market is diversifying, which can only be a good thing. As I've said before here, increased proliferation of mp3s has meant that kids getting into music now - 12-19 yr olds - generally have a much easier access to a wider range of music, something which I can only approve of.

Savage Clone 11.24.2006 01:11 PM

Casual listeners don't mind paying money for a crappy sounding compressed-to-shit "product."
I hope this doesn't lead to a generation with tin ears.

atari 2600 11.24.2006 03:14 PM

And what are your thoughts about Budweiser?

!@#$%! 11.24.2006 04:14 PM

i'll pay for downloads when they start offering raw 24-bit audio files.

in the meantime, i'll stick to vinyl and then CD when nothing else allows. looking forward also to affordable (and interesting) SACDs...

cds are not great, but compressed audio files further offend music. unfortunately the market is in the hands of hearing-impaired bitches who can't tell the difference.

--

ps- the yo la tengo album i recently bought (in sweet vinyl) came with a code for a free download from matador's site. that's the best of both worlds. i can listen on vinyl at home and mp3 on the bus.

Daycare Nation 11.24.2006 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atari 2600
CD's are dead.

yet more apostrophe issues


If I'm not mistaken, that mistake was officially made correct.

!@#$%! 11.24.2006 04:56 PM

i thought this fucking thread was about records, not commas.

anyway here is something i might want to grab:

http://store.acousticsounds.com/brow...10347&section=

most SACD titles are shit however. the bangles greatest hits? pffffffff!!!!!!!!

noisemachine 11.24.2006 06:36 PM

CDs kick ass.

Pookie 11.25.2006 05:11 AM

Minidiscs are the future.

porkmarras 11.25.2006 05:24 AM

One thing i'm sure of is that i have seen a dramatic decrease in the number of cd radio promo singles/albums in many record shops which can only mean that there aren't many being sent out to magazines/radio stations etc etc.

Glice 11.25.2006 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !@#$%!
looking forward also to affordable (and interesting) SACDs...



This label do a load of SACD/ normal CDs. They play on either system. They're reasonably priced. Looking at that site, I see they've recently released a SACD version of Beethoven's 9th, which can only be perfect.

Jt 11.25.2006 05:06 PM

For the love of FUCKING CHRIST.

I shouldn't even need to s-p-e-l-l o-u-t why this clown's sentiments consist of unadulterated bullshit, but I think I'm going to anyway, so rape me.

Firstly, let's talk fidelity. Until, as another boarder pointed out, online music retailers start trading in 24-bit raw wave files or equivalent, the download market remains bottle-necked by its own shit clarity; MP3s constantly hampered by clipping, flanged drums and sub-par separation. Plus, it's got to be borne in mind that a computer will NEVER compete with a dedicated stack stereo system for quality of sound - even if you hook up your Audigy to that pair of pricey Creative speakers, you're not even going to approach the finesse you'll be getting jacking in a full stereo set-up replete with quality speakers, CD player, deck and amp (plus good wiring). So get fucked, "Alan."

Next, let's discuss flexibility. With M$ and associated record companies' licensing restrictions on the download market, the online world actually represents a MUCH EASIER MANIPULATABLE field in which the majors can screw their clientele. WMA files are nortorious for their playback restrictions, often requiring the obtaining of licenses over the internet before activation. What of CDs? Here's a ker-razy theory for you to postulate, turd-features: how about RIPPING the music in question straight from the disc you've just bought, thereby giving you BOTH a hard, characterful copy of your music along with a digital file ready for transferring to your KnobPod in one deft motion. Which software provides for this handy little trick? Why, Apple's iTunes, of course! Prick. If you want to hit back with remarks about CD piracy restrictions, forget it - Sony tried and failed with their dongle-based effort (look it up) and, ultimately, all methods can be very easily circumvented.

Moving on now to choice. CHOICE. Arguably THE most relevant factor to a board of relatively diverse characters like ourselves. With the noughties' surge in quality independent labels, never before has the range of music on this format been so vast and obtainable. With re-issues complimenting the current fairly healthy state of the underground music scene, CD junkies have access to a world of music their downloading brethren could only DREAM about. Plus, while hunting out obscure CDs is always a pleasure (with, remember, high fidelity all but guaranteed), sites such as GEMM, Amazon and eBay allow access to all but the most truly left-field titles, not to mention labels' own websites.

Finally, and crucially, we have price, Alan. Your argument is utterly self-defeating. The Stone Roses have been for sale for £3.99 for a year, have they? How much does their "album" cost on iTunes, per chance? £7.99. Dumb-ass. So, I suppose it would be churlish of me to point out which is the better deal - a hard copy, with all artwork and liner notes, easily converted to digital (ANY bitrate or format of your choice) for half the price of a piss-poor set of license-bound .m4a files from the beloved Apple? Quite. Lest we not forget, too, that buying music from other online sources is a legally grey venture - several Russian outlets purport to sell dirt-cheap music, but with a myriad of legal issues surrounding them.

Morons like this try-too-harder constantly propogate the dawn of a "new digital age" heralding the arrival of unlimited free music, with their eyes wide shut to the fact that most of the music industry's best output was during the '60s-'90s, where labels had even more control than today. Worth remembering is that labels require MONEY to fund recording sessions and releases, and indeed render a music career a viable one in the eyes of the young artists they're attempting to attract. Ultimately, download culture is devoid of a true UNDERSTANDING of music, indeed living for the 3--minute pop song, when artists warrant so, so much more attention than this.

What're you going to show your kids as testimony of your music taste, Alan? Your piss-poor hard-drive full of 3-play-only pop songs? Gang-rape yourself you fucking ignorant cunt.

atari 2600 11.25.2006 05:13 PM

 



CD's are dead.

 

"Cocaine is dead! It’s deader than…it’s dead! Heroin is coming back in a big way.”
 

blastscenealibi 11.25.2006 05:21 PM

Or "CDs are dead. They're deader than Def Leppard. But vinyl is coming back in a big way. "

edit

If only that were so true.

atari 2600 11.25.2006 05:22 PM


 

blastscenealibi 11.25.2006 05:34 PM

I remember when Steve Clark died.

blastscenealibi 11.25.2006 05:45 PM

Thanks for the info!

I remember when Stevie Ray Vaughn died.

Pookie 11.25.2006 05:53 PM

While we're on the morbid subject, I remember when D. Boon died.

blastscenealibi 11.25.2006 05:56 PM

I remember when Obi-Wan died.

atari 2600 11.25.2006 05:58 PM

Ben!



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