the fear of death
 

more than half a year ago i tried tripping for the first (and last) time, what an awful experience, i felt like i was going to die.
since then i've been thinking about death (particularly being dead, not the process of dying itself) a lot. sometimes it scares me so much to know one day i won't exist anymore that i feel like throwing up.
what is it like to be dead? do you move into the next world (doubt that shit)? are you re-born? do you just disappear/rest forever?
i think the death of a person IS a big deal. otherwise there would be no difference between the death of a human being and the death of a fly.
this fear of death makes me wanna bring kids into this world. knowing i'll have one or more children is the ONLY way i can let my mind relax each time.
i wanna be such a badass human being and go down as a legend. more than anything, i want my father to be proud of me.

while i am scared of death, i actually do want to die someday too. i mean living forever would be horrible. there's a time each one of us needs to go.

I was born dead (serious - I have the scars to prove it).

It's really no big deal.

Take a deep breath. Relax.

my own death doesn't scare me one bit.
others dying and the pain that causes me is what scares me.
i thought that wouldn't sound selfish but it actually does.

i think the idea of having children just because you think they're supposed to be an "extension of you" or a way to overcome death is pretty gross.

My friend tripped on shrooms and had a terrible trip regarding his death n stuff too. SCarred him too. Funny...yesterday I was thinking about it too, and realized one should be afraid about it. SOmetimes I feel like the fear of death is moreso the fear of the pain that might come with it or the fact taht you may be judged in the afterlife(thank you religion). but yeh, I myself don't think about it as a scary thing. Dying is the the next best thing after living.

you only feel that way now. wait until your experience finally resonates into your soul, permeate your mind into awareness and teach you the vision it was meant to be. The problem with casual psychedelics is there is simply no such thing. Its always a vision quest, one way or the other. Some visions will scare you like that. but in time, you will learn the depth of what it really means, and the fear will subside towards an epiphany, or even more correctly a theophany.

and I don't fear death, I roll tough with Our Lady, I fear for other people's death because they are so afraid it hurts them, and pain is whats fearful. If death is permanently nothing or permanently heavenly, either way its beyond our scope, however the pain of this life hurts to the core. Death hurts the survivors, the dead folks are fine in their graves.

you are right. i feel like i'm in the process of overcoming my fear and understanding something bigger about this world.

yes, that is precisely the idea. enjoy the journey, life is bigger then 1s and 0s

just thoughts
and people can have them on the same time

if some one died
people will start to think about

and some normal thought around it will be made

depends on peoples age
what they think

young people won't think much of it
the older more serious thoughts will be giving it
depending on the individual and it's capabilty to let go of thoughts

more individual thing
as most of these thought
can't bother other people
and be misunderstood

part where the rationalism, words, visuals and all other input that came into a person
is uplifted

can be an irritating thing
if you want other peoples to think the same way as yourself

wich is irrational

Ive always thought about death but recently ive felt more physically vulnerable than i ever have. Probably down to many years of inadvisable lifestyle choices, but it has the obverse effect of making me more open minded to art, music and literature. Feeling physically unsure certainly focuses the mind.

sensitivity of these matters are mostly forgotten
full moon and things
people with ordinairy fears

think all comes down to feeling comforatble with your own thought

my thought = nature is forward
death is backward

didn't think much of death in 35 years of times
to be really honest

and i don't feel like doing it
see no reason why

in general thinking not everyone will understand
the input or how to deal with it

do find it brave that people talk about it
open their thought

try to interact in what they think or feel

many people will be lurking for gossip
or sight see'ing this thread

i see it as a fossile that destroys normal flow of life
and the incapabilty of speaking about it

ofcourse it hasn't have to become a long streched drama

Weird. After a near-death experience about a year ago, I was fucked up for a little while.

Then, I considered the experience practice. I began to feel kinda okay about it. I certainly don't have a zen-like serenity toward the concept of my non-existence, but I do have a slightly more mature, resigned attitude.

On the other hand, notice that right now I have trouble even typing out the D-word and I feel more comfortable using other language.

It is the most frightening, horrible thing ever.

But then, it's just a loss of consciousness. Ever pass out? Same thing, except you never wake up. But you'll never know you'll never wake up.

Conclusion: It's a huge deal, but also not a big deal at all.

Oh, and the fact that I never grew up with a concept of Hell and I don't fear damnation helps a hell of a lot.

When i used to play football i would get heart palpitations nearly every game and on a couple of occasions i passed out. Half the time i would stay on the pitch and carry on trying to play, insane as that sounds.

That's not insane, the MLS league requires several layers of on-field circulation and pulmonary testing before clearing players to play each contract signing. Some folks have simply dropped dead on the pitch!

I mean it was insane that i didnt do anything about it and just carried on, mainly because im so bloody minded. "My heart's fizzing like packet of mentos in a bottle of coke? Thats no reason to stop running" was my attitude.

I think its fair to say i didnt have the best guidance in my teenage years.

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All of my experiences w/ tripping have brought me to a place to where I'm more comfortable w/ concepts like death and all that jazz...all my experiences have been beautiful and the only downer is that I can't stay in that place. Everything is far more beautiful.

Sans dextromethorphan. That shit brought me to a very dark place I have no desire to ever return to.

Nothing ever really "ceases to exist". The matter I'm made up of will go on to become other things. Of course, my mind, whatever makes me "Sway", may not..but death likely means this is a fact I won't be aware of (another reason to not fear it). We just, become one with the cosmos in the same way we've always been one with it. That's all I know. Nothing, in my opinion, to be feared. maybe there is some sort of collective consciousness (nature?) in death. I don't know.

And the only likely difference between the death of a human and a fly is an emotional one. I doubt Mr. Dead Fly has many friends that miss him....but even with that, so???? In 1,000 years there will likely be little (if any) record of anyone on this forum. What info MIGHT be available won't interest most people of that time (taken, of course, people still exist).

Just live and enjoy it. At the very least, ya have this life. Focus on that...death is coming regardless of anything. Sorta like taking a piss or drinking a glass of water. It's just part of what we are.

didn't thought about it
that many people had near death experiences

this will go with compared with a state of choque

you seem to deal good with it

and wil do better during time that will pas

from that thought
and all things of the past
many people have a state of choque

if you know that car accidents have the most deadth involved
and so the near death will be there too

thinking of people who died by deseases
will create a world wide same thinking towards these things

everywhere in the world people die

and this will have a same impact on people world wide

from that thinking
i think i'm rite

as not do think much about these things
because i have my normal life to continue

it would make my life impossible to continue
thinking about everyone who died
or has a near death experience

i think i feel good and that is importand
without beeing selfish

almost forgot to mention i crashed my car into someone else's and totaled it a few weeks after that first experience. wasn't as scary, but i thought i was going to die.
those two events fucked me up for a while..

I'm a firm believer that most people (much emphasis on "most", as chemical imbalances/etc do exist) who can't find a means of enjoying life simply are not trying hard enough. It doesn't take a lot of money or a great job or any of that shit...and usually is as simple as changing something about whatever your daily routine might be. If you don't like your job, work toward finding another. If you're tired of whatever films or music you've been listening to, explore other avenues of entertainment. Read books you might not normally be interested in. Explore other ways of thinking. Get OUT! Venture into the woods. Document your daily life. Meet new people. Walk around and observe and take tons of mental notes. Create adventures for yourself. Staying stuck in a bedroom all day, listening to the same 20 records all the time and considering doing other things doesn't do much good. It takes actually putting other considerations into action. Shit, I spent nearly the last two years (up until recently) just listening to bullshit lectures on Youtube covering all sorts of (what I'd thought would be..) bullshit topics. My interest in music isn't going anywhere, but it isn't as intense as it once was. I can get into a new band without having to know the member's back story. After all, all that shit (as you clearly realize) boils down to being little-to-nothing more than entertainment. Explore other means of entertainment. Read above your ability level. Take some sort of risks, man. Experience as much as you possibly can why you are here. A bedroom/few records/books only offers so much. We don't know what the world has to offer until we get out in it. I'm surprised you don't spend more time on the beach. It's a great place to go and reflect, homie. Tear those walls down.

There doesn't have to be a meaning to everything. When it comes to most things, my experience has often been that as soon as I find a meaning, it ceases to interest me. I personally enjoy not having the answers to absolutely everything. This has no effect, and should have no effect, on how much one enjoys their own existence.

can come in to that

if people talk straight about the fear of death or fears
it will be clear

then i guess
people will have problems how to continue after a near death experience
or what to do

this can be difficult
some will need a guide to go trough this

and on the otherside

you can wake up in a reality
that other have near death experiences

wich doesn't make people happy at all

it was too easy to misinterpret my post like that..

LOVE made me come into this world. it was love that made me sit at home, listen to my little record collection and write, while all other kids were hanging out. at the end of the day, all i'm willing to do is spread the love. if you find love gross, well, i have no words for you..

Fucking hell

it's easy to misinterpret my point that is: having children for selfish purposes is not spreading 'love', it's more like spreading frustration.
what does listening to records and writing have to do with it?

Lets get dead, but first lets get drunk and forget about it.

you may be right. i can be very selfish sometimes. but i'm working on it.

uhm, everything. it represents what i feel inside and find it hard to express in other ways.

what does that have to do with having children? i don't understand what your point was.

you said "just because".. had to let you know that wasn't the ONLY reason. there's more to the picture.

as long as it's not projecting an extension of your self like most people do

the perspective of having childeren
is havely disformed
by the war and agression of the past

created extreme confusion in passing on good things of life

if people have a personal idea of life
that they don't like to live a life as an animal

than is that that

end of piont

no need to lie around that piont

i simply don't like life like an animal
and seen alot of shit from human animals

defenitivly don't want to give a look back to all that

if people like to stay costume museum crazy

go then out like that

i know i'm not joining

i have another future idea of life

i won't be broken by humans
that is what stand up

and specially not by woman
who think they are smart
by using all kinds of emotional manipulations :fuckyou:

MY buzz you fucking basteard

who are you diesel?

As in density or mass?

if you have childeren
look after them

don't go playing the though guy that is going to sink the bottle of alchol

and do know they are not your toys
that should be boys or girls
blue or green eyed

don't want to born like that

have seen people who are born and grown up as tube baby's
without knowing who their parents where
long searches for their parents and stuff

they where definitivly not happy about it

that is what they say themself

just how old are you
female or male
where do you live?

if you look at the internet
do know there is a lot time to kill

Too many questions, sorry i'm experiencing aneurysms.