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Hip Priest 10.04.2006 06:35 PM

WAR!
 
Poll in a mo.

Cheers.

Hip Priest 10.04.2006 06:40 PM

I tried to pick artistes who are well known, but aren't praised to the rafters every day on the forum.

porkmarras 10.04.2006 06:42 PM

Difficult choice but Frankies are one my favourites and i'll always go with that.

k-krack 10.04.2006 06:43 PM

I dnon't really like any of them much, but Elvis Costello has had some good stuff.

Hip Priest 10.04.2006 06:44 PM

The Frankie one is a classic, as is the Costello track. They'd be 2 and 3 on my list...

..behind "War Ensemble" by Slayer. I'm not a Slayer fan, but that LP ("Seasons in the Abyss", I think) is excellent.

Hip Priest 10.04.2006 06:47 PM

I remember all of the various 12" mixes of "Two Tribes" that were released at the time. Some of them were splendid. ZTT at that time had a remarkable roster and an incredibly inventive team.

porkmarras 10.04.2006 06:47 PM

Apart from the System Of A Down track(wich i don't know)every track is a good one to choose from.

HaydenAsche 10.04.2006 07:21 PM

No love for go4?

Hip Priest 10.04.2006 07:23 PM

That, and Eric B and Rakim, should have been included. But it's the old ten-option limit, you see. It's the pollmaker's curse.

Tickerwelly 10.04.2006 08:01 PM

Gwar. This Toilet Eartn is underrated.

Everyneurotic 10.04.2006 08:04 PM

i was going to vote for slayer but i just can't say no to GWAR!!!!!

Пятхъдесят Шест 10.04.2006 09:01 PM

Well of course I went with Elvis Costello. I was just listening to Get Happy!!! before I got online as a matter of fact.

Though I would say EC has better songs on the subject of war...Pills and Soap comes to mind.

youthoftomorrow 10.04.2006 10:18 PM

"Saddam-A-Go-Go" with "War Ensemble" close behind.

Pookie 10.05.2006 01:53 AM

It has to be Bud Flanagan with the Dad's Army theme for me, for nostalgia reasons really, followed by Frankie. I used to get woken every morning by the sound of an air raid siren when my neighbour blasted out the 12" version each morning.

DemonBox 10.05.2006 05:11 AM

Edwin Starr is the man!

sonicl 10.05.2006 05:21 AM

I've picked the Motorhead one, as it's a stunningly good song, and totally unmotorheadlike, but I would also like to nominate:

Masters of War - Bob Dylan (I particularly like Mark Arm's version)
And The Band Played Waltzing Matilda - Eric Bogle (I particularly like The Pogues' version)
Green Fields of France - Eric Bogle (I particularly like The Men They Couldn't Hang's version)


EDIT - Wow, I just googled Eric Bogle, and I had never realised that he was a fairly contemporary artist (okay, 1960's). I had always assumed that his songs were written during the first world war.

Glice 10.05.2006 05:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonicl
I've picked the Motorhead one, as it's a stunningly good song, and totally unmotorheadlike, but I would also like to nominate:

Masters of War - Bob Dylan (I particularly like Mark Arm's version)
And The Band Played Waltzing Matilda - Eric Bogle (I particularly like The Pogues' version)
Green Fields of France - Eric Bogle (I particularly like The Men They Couldn't Hang's version)


EDIT - Wow, I just googled Eric Bogle, and I had never realised that he was a fairly contemporary artist (okay, 1960's). I had always assumed that his songs were written during the first world war.


I'd definitely go with Mr Bogle's And the band played waltzing matilda, were it an option. That appears on quite a few Irish records, in spite of being about Australians. Nice to see some love for mr Bogle.

sonicl 10.05.2006 06:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glice
I'd definitely go with Mr Bogle's And the band played waltzing matilda, were it an option. That appears on quite a few Irish records, in spite of being about Australians. Nice to see some love for mr Bogle.

This thread has prompted me to investigate the original versions of those two songs I mentioned. I've only ever heard the covers.

sonic sphere 10.05.2006 07:11 AM

war ensembllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llle

porkmarras 10.05.2006 07:13 AM

Oh and Culture Club's 'The War Song'.

Glice 10.05.2006 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonicl
This thread has prompted me to investigate the original versions of those two songs I mentioned. I've only ever heard the covers.


I have absolutely no idea who did the original. Could've been any number of people. I'd up the Dubliners version, which is ace, but I don't have any means of transferring vinyl to digital. There was a gorgeous acapella version that Peel played when we went into Afghanistan, but I can't for the life of me remember who by, which is a shame, as it were ace.

nicfit 10.05.2006 07:42 AM

i refuse to vote in a poll where "soldier boy" by the shirelles is not one of the oprions.HA!

Tokolosh 10.05.2006 07:49 AM

Slayer.

blue sunlover 10.05.2006 07:57 AM

he s got 99 problems.

porkmarras 10.05.2006 07:59 AM

blue sunlover,if you don't stop clogging my pm inbox with meaningless messages i'll have to put you on ignore.Warned.

Glice 10.05.2006 08:43 AM

Ooh, oooh - Laibach's version of War (What is it good for?). That's a good 'un.

Hip Priest 10.05.2006 02:20 PM

Gaye Bykers on Acid's World War Seven Blues shoud have been there too.

Пятхъдесят Шест 10.05.2006 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glice
Ooh, oooh - Laibach's version of War (What is it good for?). That's a good 'un.


I want to hear this, STAT.

Hip Priest 10.05.2006 02:22 PM

I remember them doing Queen's One Vision with utter ruthlessness, but I've never heard their take on War.

Пятхъдесят Шест 10.05.2006 02:24 PM

Laibach pretty much epitomize utter ruthlessness. Why else would we be so fond?

Everyneurotic 10.05.2006 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glice
Ooh, oooh - Laibach's version of War (What is it good for?). That's a good 'un.


i haven't heard laibach's version, but doa's version rules!

Savage Clone 10.05.2006 03:17 PM

What about "Total War" by NON?
That rules.

Laibach were about 5,000,000,000,000,999% cooler before they started doing novelty cover versions.

atari 2600 10.05.2006 04:51 PM

As far as "Songs about War," the choices given and the following really fall into the "Anti-War" category.

There's no Talking World War III Blues or Masters of War by Dylan.

There's no Run Through the Jungle or Fortunate Son by CCR.

There's no War Pigs by Black Sabbath.

There's no Seconds by U2.

There's no Born in the U.S.A. by The Boss.

There's no Give Peace A Chance or Happy Xmas,
War is Over.

There are no time-worn classics like Morning Dew
or Ball of Confusion.

There is no bloody Revolution.

touch me i'm sick 10.05.2006 04:53 PM

funny how no one chooses system of a down.

atari 2600 10.05.2006 04:54 PM

There's even no "Russians" by Sting. I'm surprised Hip Priest would forget or choose to omit this song that sums up the Cold War pretty well.
The way Sting works Krushchev in there is great...I mean is there any other song that mentions this historical snapshot of the entire Cold War from the infamous U.N. shoe-beating incident and successfully works it into popular music? The Manhattan Project and Robert "I have become Death" Oppenheimer are in there too; it's a fucking history lesson and still a decent song.
Dismiss him and yawn if you must, but the guy simply has a pair of brass ones to begin a verse with a line like "there is no historical precedent."

"Russians"

In Europe and America, there's a growing feeling of hysteria
Conditioned to respond to all the threats
In the rhetorical speeches of the Soviets
Mr. Krushchev said we will bury you
I don't subscribe to this point of view
It would be such an ignorant thing to do
If the Russians love their children too

How can I save my little boy from Oppenheimer's deadly toy
There is no monopoly on common sense
On either side of the political fence
We share the same biology
Regardless of ideology
Believe me when I say to you
I hope the Russians love their children too

There is no historical precedent
To put the words in the mouth of the President
There's no such thing as a winnable war
It's a lie that we don't believe anymore
Mr. Reagan says we will protect you
I don't subscribe to this point of view
Believe me when I say to you
I hope the Russians love their children too

We share the same biology
Regardless of ideology
What might save us, me, and you
Is that the Russians love their children too

Glice 10.05.2006 05:52 PM

I'm glad I'm on ignore, because that is honestly the most conservative, old man bollocks I have ever had the misfortune to read on this forum. For fuck's sake, fucking Sting? Is this what my grandparents fought the Nazis for, so you could go around preaching your hateful message of 'accept Sting, he's not your enemy'? I think it's sick, genuinely fucking sick.

pokkeherrie 10.06.2006 03:29 AM

I'm having a hard time choosing between Nena and Slayer, believe it or not.

pokkeherrie 10.06.2006 03:41 AM

I can't believe you didn't vote for Slayer!
I really like 99 Luftballons, although the English lyrics version is terrible.

blue sunlover 10.06.2006 03:46 AM

I Almost Used Up All My Privacy. So I Will Send No Private Messanes Any Longer.i Will Hide In My Public Ennemies.thank You So Much For Making Me Sick .i Need No Doctor, One More Cigarette, James

blue sunlover 10.06.2006 03:46 AM

The German V. Is Hot Like Nena Reena


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