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atsonicpark 01.31.2011 04:13 AM

married with children still holds up
 
 

I recently downloaded the whole show (which took forever, there's like 11 seasons and nearly 300 episodes!!!!). Been skimming through random episodes and goddamn this show is gold. This show is hilarious!

Now, Seinfeld is pretty much my favorite sitcom ever (since Mighty Boosh doesn't count as a "sitcom".. right?); Seinfeld is clever as hell and ridiculous, but Married with Children is even more absurd, at times, sometimes even more clever -- and the characters are just as unlikeable (which I think was also Seinfeld's greatest strength: every character is a worthless asshole!!!).

Anyway, comparisons aside, this show was surprisingly sexual for the time it aired on television (well, at the beginning of its run -- by the end of its run, there was sex everywhere on tv). I'm watching one right now where Al fucks Peggy to show the dog how to mate properly. Kelly puts in a piece of toast. They go upstairs to fuck. After the toast pops up, they go downstairs, having just fucked! Haha. He's like a 20 second man.

Uh, anyway, great show.

shabbray2.0 01.31.2011 04:24 AM

I recently watched the episode where Al is building his dream toilet where nobody else got permission to use it...
the themes where so over the top at times in absolutely all directions!!!

best darcy husband was definately Jefferson. he looks like a character out of a cartoon!

atsonicpark 01.31.2011 04:55 AM

Just watched TOP OF THE HEAP. Al is in the episode about 30 seconds. The rest of the episode follows two characters that have never been in any other episode, and doesn't have any other reoccuring character! What's amazing is, the episode still holds up quite well, is hilarious and brilliant even though it has nothing to do with any other episode -- it's like a completely different show in parts.

What other show could get away with an episode like this?!

shabbray2.0 01.31.2011 06:26 AM

which season / episode?
I am waiting for a phone call and need every time consumer I can get :)

atsonicpark 01.31.2011 06:40 AM

it's called TOP OF THE HEAP, and it's somewhere in the middle of the series I think

Dr. Eugene Felikson 01.31.2011 06:42 AM

The writing on that show was really wild, and not in a tacky way like Roseanne after she won the lottery. It almost seems to take place in a parallel trashy cartoonish universe.

A lot of popular American media in the 90s (especially the late 90s) embraced trashy attitudes; Married w/ Children, Roseanne, Jerry Springer, Seinfeld, South Park, Beavis & Butthead, Celebrity Deathmatch... I miss the angsty nihilism of that decade so much. Imagine a guy like Marilyn Manson blowing up the pop charts today. Shit just doesn't happen.

shabbray2.0 01.31.2011 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atsonicpark
it's called TOP OF THE HEAP, and it's somewhere in the middle of the series I think


ah crap I wanted to check the german version, which got synchronized in a very good way, which doesnt happened that often. but watched married with children as a youngster already and I am used to the synchro voices. but the episode title translation definately sucks.

will search on.

shabbray2.0 01.31.2011 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Eugene Felikson
The writing on that show was really wild, and not in a tacky way like Roseanne after she won the lottery. It almost seems to take place in a parallel trashy cartoonish universe.

A lot of popular American media in the 90s (especially the late 90s) embraced trashy attitudes; Married w/ Children, Roseanne, Jerry Springer, Seinfeld, South Park, Beavis & Butthead, Celebrity Deathmatch... I miss the angsty nihilism of that decade so much. Imagine a guy like Marilyn Manson blowing up the pop charts today. Shit just doesn't happen.


Lady Gaga always reminded me of Manson. it wouldnt surprise me if its the same person

Dr. Eugene Felikson 01.31.2011 06:50 AM

Yeah but underneath the Kermit the Frog dresses, and silly hats... she's just another Britney Spears.

Manson was the fucking antichrist.

shabbray2.0 01.31.2011 06:55 AM

I was just referring to face features. hahaha
drifted away a bit.
but I agree on you.
waiting for the next clash of mainstream and not-mainstream (<whatever its called nowadays)

Dr. Eugene Felikson 01.31.2011 07:11 AM

I remember when I was about 4 years old, Married With Children would come on and my parents would put me to bed. I would always sneak into the hall and watch though. Even when I was little I was a fiend for vulgarity. Kelly Bundy was my first crush. Seriously.

 


 


Just look at how grimey, and industrial that logo was...

 


I FUCKING LOVE IT

But yeah, I can't even watch the intro to the show without thinking of sitting at the end of that hallway.

Pelle 01.31.2011 08:29 AM

Oh yeah I love this show! Im pretty much grown up with that stupid show, just to fuckin brilliant!

And Christina Applegate is soo FFFF hot !!!

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 01.31.2011 08:33 PM

I was watching this show EVERY SINGLE DAY for at least a decade straight until last year they took it off of regular TV because it so saturates cable. and when I watch this show, the WHOLE neighborhood knows because I laugh so hysterically and ostentatiously..

There is no better a show, they take all the things you make fun of in animation, and actually cast real people to do it, essentially a live action animated series. and the acting is almost entirely made of up facial expressions, posturing, mannerisms and gestures. I can't begin to describe highlight moments.. like when they had Jefferson as a spy, pictured with Arafat, or when NOMA'AM had its official beer conference. What about "if you build it, they will come, if you want them to build it for you, press 1" or "[IMG]file:///C:/Users/HABTEK%7E1/AppData/Local/Temp/moz-screenshot.png[/IMG]Isis is not rubber, she is breathable latex."

This show had the perfect amount of bitter sarcasm, insightful parody and satire, outlandish Vaudville humor, just low-brow enough to not be low-life motifs, and generally a cartoon like show. Roseanne was too serious, and Unhappily Ever After was too obvious, Married..With Children was just subtle enough and with enough nuances to stand the test of time. It is the ONLY show I can ALWAYS watch, and have memorized every single moment of every episode, and yet can still watch it any time..



 




 



 



 

Savage Clone 01.31.2011 08:44 PM

Tea Party television.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 01.31.2011 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Savage Clone
Tea Party television.


waaaaay off base. this show is way to crude, sexually contrived, and blatantly insulting to be Tea Party.

DeadDiscoDildo 01.31.2011 09:23 PM

RIP Christina Applegate's awesome breasts...

hevusa 01.31.2011 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DeadDiscoDildo
RIP Christina Applegate's awesome breasts...


Not as awesome any more though (breast cancer, both removed). I hope she pulls through everything ok in the long run. Looking good so far.

SONIC GAIL 02.01.2011 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
I was watching this show EVERY SINGLE DAY for at least a decade straight until last year they took it off of regular TV because it so saturates cable. and when I watch this show, the WHOLE neighborhood knows because I laugh so hysterically and ostentatiously..

There is no better a show, they take all the things you make fun of in animation, and actually cast real people to do it, essentially a live action animated series. and the acting is almost entirely made of up facial expressions, posturing, mannerisms and gestures. I can't begin to describe highlight moments.. like when they had Jefferson as a spy, pictured with Arafat, or when NOMA'AM had its official beer conference. What about "if you build it, they will come, if you want them to build it for you, press 1" or "[IMG]file:///C:/Users/HABTEK%7E1/AppData/Local/Temp/moz-screenshot.png[/IMG]Isis is not rubber, she is breathable latex."

This show had the perfect amount of bitter sarcasm, insightful parody and satire, outlandish Vaudville humor, just low-brow enough to not be low-life motifs, and generally a cartoon like show. Roseanne was too serious, and Unhappily Ever After was too obvious, Married..With Children was just subtle enough and with enough nuances to stand the test of time. It is the ONLY show I can ALWAYS watch, and have memorized every single moment of every episode, and yet can still watch it any time..





 






 





 





 

Amen to that I can't even remember when I started watching it I just always have. Laugh my ass off at every episode. sometimes it makes me late for work in the morning cause i want to finish watching even though i have already sen it

hevusa 02.01.2011 10:05 AM

This show, from the same time period, also holds up well:

 

Andrés 02.01.2011 03:07 PM

There's this episode where Bud and Marcy had an affair, it was hilarious!!! I wish I knew the name of the episode. I downloaded a couple of seasons a few years ago, fun stuff!! sometimes I miss spanish subs but I still get 80% of the jokes

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 02.01.2011 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrés
There's this episode where Bud and Marcy had an affair, it was hilarious!!! I wish I knew the name of the episode. I downloaded a couple of seasons a few years ago, fun stuff!! sometimes I miss spanish subs but I still get 80% of the jokes


no, kelly set them up to think they had slept together because both bud and marcy thought she was stupid.

let us also not forget the Bleen episode, or when the Bundy's rented that mustang and went on vacation for labor day starting a bar fight on the freeway. When they went to Lower Uncton? The only Tea Partyish episode was the Beer Tax one, and in reality, that was a satire against Tea Party type Rightist activists because all the "anti-tax protesters" in that episode were really just debased and into debauchery, hardly your outstanding moral conservatives or even the crudest aspects of the Sarah Palin crowd or Rush Limbaugh even!

Glice 02.01.2011 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by shabbray2.0
Lady Gaga always reminded me of Manson. it wouldnt surprise me if its the same person


This thread made me think of this.

The post above made me think of this.

Which led me to thinking about this.

Which, after a brief detour through some songs no-one needs to be reminded of, led me here. Which made me happy.

But anyway. The point is, you all need to die, so fuck off, you dickflowers.

DeadDiscoDildo 02.01.2011 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by hevusa
Not as awesome any more though (breast cancer, both removed). I hope she pulls through everything ok in the long run. Looking good so far.


That's why I said RIP...

It means Reast in Peace.

hevusa 02.01.2011 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DeadDiscoDildo
That's why I said RIP...

It means Reast in Peace.



totally missed the RIP. distracted by the breast once again!

batreleaser 02.02.2011 10:38 AM

great show. arrested development is my favorite sitcom though.

DeadDiscoDildo 02.02.2011 12:45 PM

^^Yes.

mindbomb 02.02.2011 08:33 PM

I was probably 12 or 13 when I got into that show. A guy at school starting making and selling 'No Mam' T-shirts. That is what they're called right? I never did get one of those shirts though.
Anyway, Kelly was hot and the show made me sit there and laugh inside. Like atsonicpark said it's still relevant today. The best thing though is that the show made you realize even if your parents weren't that well off they could still be dysfunctional in a funny way. Remember, Peg was a stay at home mom and Al was a shoesalesman. Kelly, a slut, Bud, a funny loser, and the dog, the one you felt sorry for.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 02.04.2011 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by batreleaser
great show. arrested development is my favorite sitcom though.


truly, remarkably hilarious and perhaps one of the few sitcoms that I own on DVD and watch in tandem with my Married.. With Children archive

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Originally Posted by mindbomb
I was probably 12 or 13 when I got into that show. A guy at school starting making and selling 'No Mam' T-shirts. That is what they're called right? I never did get one of those shirts though.
Anyway, Kelly was hot and the show made me sit there and laugh inside. Like atsonicpark said it's still relevant today. The best thing though is that the show made you realize even if your parents weren't that well off they could still be dysfunctional in a funny way. Remember, Peg was a stay at home mom and Al was a shoesalesman. Kelly, a slut, Bud, a funny loser, and the dog, the one you felt sorry for.


when I was a kid we were poor, and I never understood how the Bundy's were poor with that large house, and the occasional splurging they did like Peg's home shopping network addiction or the kinds of things Kelly and Bud got money. The Bundy's were no poor like I was poor, but aside from that, I always enjoyed the rest and still do :)

Derek 02.04.2011 03:37 PM

A lot of shows are very flexible in their reality financially. How come The Simpsons have such a big house, 3 children with a stay at home wife yet Homer has the wage of an average factory worker?

mindbomb 02.04.2011 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Derek
A lot of shows are very flexible in their reality financially. How come The Simpsons have such a big house, 3 children with a stay at home wife yet Homer has the wage of an average factory worker?


It gives a misguided perception of what people can afford. The tv shows make it look like most people live fairly reasonably. I don't know all the statistics on it but I can gather that so many more people live in cheap apartments they can barely afford and families with Homer's job can really barely get by. That might hurt people's feelings in terms of how they relate to the expectations of the norm in America in general.
The weirdest thing is that sometimes the difference between being a bum and a $50,000+ worker is based on avoiding a few tragic life events that change the way a person looks at the world.

startur 02.04.2011 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek
A lot of shows are very flexible in their reality financially. How come The Simpsons have such a big house, 3 children with a stay at home wife yet Homer has the wage of an average factory worker?


i think you can write a lot about this topic, like how the networks purposely make families in these tv shows seem to have more products and furniture than they can actually afford as to promote consumerism...like the people watching the show think "they're like us, they have a big screen tv, i should have a big screen tv..."

but i also think it has a lot to do with just the general structure of the plot and story. i mean if you're gonna create a story about an american family it just makes sense for them to live in a large/medium sized single home in the suburbs. generally most family sitcoms and cartoons have the same environmental structure...

it also has to do with it being an american show and portraying the american dream. you would expect a typical american family to live beyond its means, having a big house and two cars...thats what makes them so american...

also, although the simpsons have a pretty a big house, they are generally portrayed as being poor. some of the plots in the early and mid seasons deal with them being in tight financial situations....not having enough money for dog surgery, not being able to afford a/c, etc...

finally, homer doesnt just work in a factory, he works in a nuclear power plant as the safety inspector, if anything you would think he would have a pretty good salary relatively...

Derek 02.05.2011 07:03 AM

You see his pay slip in a few episodes, he doesn't earn much at all. Or, certainly not enough for what is required for his family.

And the Simpsons is flexible though too. Sometimes Bart will ask Homer for a thousand dollars and Homer will just take it out of his wallet and give it to him.

Dr. Eugene Felikson 02.19.2011 01:46 AM

Really cool how season 11 has both Mink Stole and Robert Englund in it! Haha, I wasn't expecting that at all!

I've been lost in a Bundy fade ever since I got Netflix on my Wii.

Dr. Eugene Felikson 02.19.2011 01:54 AM

Did you guys know that the show was originally going to be titled, Not the Cosbys?

Dr. Eugene Felikson 02.19.2011 02:31 AM

Did you also know that Kurtwood Smith (That 70s Show, Robocop) was considered for the role of Al Bundy before Ed O'Neill got the part?


 


Andrés 02.21.2011 02:22 PM

I had no idea

DeadDiscoDildo 02.21.2011 02:42 PM

Thank God he didnt get it, otherwise we probably would never have had

RED FUCKING FOREMAN.

His best role EVER.

Probably my third favorite TV show next to Arrested Developement and Xfiles.

Seriously the first 3 seasons of 70s show were untouchable.

The rest of it was garbage.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 02.21.2011 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Eugene Felikson
Did you also know that Kurtwood Smith (That 70s Show, Robocop) was considered for the role of Al Bundy before Ed O'Neill got the part?



 



actually I did, Ed O'Neil was actually a talented Broadway actor doing Shakespeare and wasn't initially interested, and Kurtwood was a bit more popular in the early 80s riding those action movies waves, so he wanted too much fejia, so Ed was convinced.. you know he says now with this ABC show he has he has a bit of regrets with Married.. because he has been so eternally casted (not in TV/acting but in real life) as my pal Al, as Married.. is indeed a socio-cultural institution in America. Inevitably it will be a kind of counter-culture I Love Lucy, trust that.

static-harmony 02.21.2011 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DeadDiscoDildo
Thank God he didnt get it, otherwise we probably would never have had

RED FUCKING FOREMAN.

His best role EVER.

Probably my third favorite TV show next to Arrested Developement and Xfiles.

Seriously the first 3 seasons of 70s show were untouchable.

The rest of it was garbage.


It was even more awful after Eric left the show.

Dr. Eugene Felikson 02.23.2011 05:10 PM

 


Whoa... Russian Married With Children

http://www.lindsayfincher.com/2007/0...to-russia.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NbuSIUKFSc


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