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Derek 10.19.2010 05:36 PM

Pretentious - worst word in the English language.
 
Stop fucking using it. UGH!

Toilet & Bowels 10.19.2010 06:42 PM

it's become so popular in the last 10 years

demonrail666 10.19.2010 06:54 PM

it's the new ironic

!@#$%! 10.19.2010 07:00 PM

it's a perfectly good word that's been overly misused by dumbfucks (just like "ironic" in the 90s or "sarcasm" in the 00's).

rather than accuse innocent words, let's make the right request-- don't be a dumbfuck.

Glice 10.20.2010 03:43 AM

"I'm incapable of constructing a decent argument; please have a weak one".

AND the irony that most 'pretentious' people are perfectly earnest.

I've just finished a book that argues that 'postmodern' nominalisation ends up eliding the possibility of meaningful dialogue, and that we should return to the liturgical culture of the Roman Rite to arrest this process. Something for us all to think about.

Genteel Death 10.20.2010 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Glice
"I'm incapable of constructing a decent argument; please have a weak one".

AND the irony that most 'pretentious' people are perfectly earnest.

I've just finished a book that argues that 'postmodern' nominalisation ends up eliding the possibility of meaningful dialogue, and that we should return to the liturgical culture of the Roman Rite to arrest this process. Something for us all to think about.

When I used to work in a bar at the end of my shift I would be changing into normal clothes and this guy would regularly ask me 'have you finished?'.

Glice 10.20.2010 06:30 AM

That sentence feels like it's missing a 'with spunk glistening on my sanguine lips'.

Glice 10.20.2010 06:31 AM

I'm sorry if crass and unfunny gay jokes are too pretentious for some of you. I'm an artiste, I don't play by your rules. So fuck off.

Incidentally, I think I'm going to end every post with 'so fuck off' today.

Toilet & Bowels 10.20.2010 07:53 AM

i would say for every 500 times i've heard the word used it probably gets used correctly once. plus, what's so bad about pretentiousness anyway?

Glice 10.20.2010 08:00 AM

Moustaches are what's bad about pretentiousness. So fuck off.

candymoan 10.20.2010 08:04 AM

you guys are soooooo pretentious..

atsonicpark 10.20.2010 08:26 AM

Yeah, it's not so much the worst word, but the most misused, especially on imdb! That's why my imdb sig is the full, complete, correct use of the word "pretentious".

Derek 10.20.2010 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark
Yeah, it's not so much the worst word, but the most misused, especially on imdb! That's why my imdb sig is the full, complete, correct use of the word "pretentious".

This stemmed from when I was thinking about a certain person we've spoken about before calling Jean-Luc Godard 'pretentious'.

atsonicpark 10.20.2010 09:48 AM

That person has never seen a JLG film, knows nothing about him, and knows nothing about movies, period.

The best thing I did was completely stop reading just about everyone's facebook page, except for 4 or 5 people I didn't "hide the status" of. I mainly just use it for email.

SONIC GAIL 10.20.2010 09:53 AM

why don't the lot of you FUCK OFF

Derek 10.20.2010 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark
That person has never seen a JLG film, knows nothing about him, and knows nothing about movies, period.

The best thing I did was completely stop reading just about everyone's facebook page, except for 4 or 5 people I didn't "hide the status" of. I mainly just use it for email.

Yeah, she's a total moron.

The best thing I did was just delete my page. I logged into it the other day after not being online for days and some of the things people were saying just legitimately made me angry. I've never cared for what other people say but when I realised I was actually caring about the diatribe people vomitted onto this cesspool of social hate, I decided it was time to stop.
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Originally Posted by SONIC GAIL
why don't the lot of you FUCK OFF

If Glice fucks off then the rest of us will follow.

Glice 10.20.2010 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SONIC GAIL
why don't the lot of you FUCK OFF


You must blah. So fuck off.

atsonicpark 10.20.2010 11:32 AM

great sig, derek.

frusciante is probably one of the top 10 musicians ever

gast30 10.20.2010 11:37 AM

why you found that word the worst?
pretentious = don't think you are more then me

a word to put a hold on some one
like you would like to dim the light
to have some sort of control

i'm a pretencious ass

Derek 10.20.2010 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark
great sig, derek.

frusciante is probably one of the top 10 musicians ever

Lose the 0 in 10 and you're in the right ballpark. :)

Oh by the way Adam, here's some Frusciante links you should check:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WL6a9ZbGhEw
VPRO Interview; conducted in 1994 in Frusciante's home while he was a reclusive fucked up heroin addict. He talks about everything from Kurt Cobain to why he loves heroin etc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qx7oJ7-Xjpg
A short film called STUFF that was directed by Johnny Depp before he was famous. Shows Frusciante's living conditions before that house burned down in a fire (destroying his record collection and guitars in the process). Concludes with Frusciante lying on his bed reciting a poem.

You've probably seen these if you've looked around but more people should see them anyway.

atsonicpark 10.20.2010 11:42 AM

THANKS

Derek 10.20.2010 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gast30
why you found that word the worst?
pretentious = don't think you are more then me

a word to put a hold on some one
like you would like to dim the light
to have some sort of control

i'm a pretencious ass

I have no qualms with any word, I think of all words as equal in the English language of course. But this word is grossly misused by idiots who want to shoot down an artist's work if it's vaguely experimental.
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Originally Posted by atsonicpark
THANKS

NO PROB.

Toilet & Bowels 10.20.2010 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Derek
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qx7oJ7-Xjpg
A short film called STUFF that was directed by Johnny Depp before he was famous.


Johnny Depp was famous then, he's been famous since the 80s

Derek 10.20.2010 12:19 PM

Oh, everywhere I've seen that's written about that video has said it's "directed by Johnny Depp before his fame" but you're probably right, I'm not too knowledgable of him anyway.

EDIT: Oh, he was the jock in A Nightmare on Elm Street. Fuck hahaha.

Toilet & Bowels 10.20.2010 02:32 PM

it's before he was famous for being in Pirates of The Carribean though

!@#$%! 10.20.2010 02:34 PM

he became famous in 21 jumpstreet. a ridiculous show available online if you want to laugh at the 80s. the hairdos are priceless.

ink. 10.20.2010 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels
it's before he was famous for being in Pirates of The Carribean though


nice funny.

ink. 10.20.2010 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek
Lose the 0 in 10 and you're in the right ballpark. :)

Oh by the way Adam, here's some Frusciante links you should check:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WL6a9ZbGhEw
VPRO Interview; conducted in 1994 in Frusciante's home while he was a reclusive fucked up heroin addict. He talks about everything from Kurt Cobain to why he loves heroin etc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qx7oJ7-Xjpg
A short film called STUFF that was directed by Johnny Depp before he was famous. Shows Frusciante's living conditions before that house burned down in a fire (destroying his record collection and guitars in the process). Concludes with Frusciante lying on his bed reciting a poem.

You've probably seen these if you've looked around but more people should see them anyway.


not my personal number 1, but I definately think one of the most underglorified musicians of the past 30 years.

SuperCreep 10.20.2010 03:59 PM

i don't have a problem with the word or its overuse. it's just that when someone labels something "pretentious" the critique usually stops there. that irks me more than the word itself.

Genteel Death 10.20.2010 04:35 PM

It's only really used by people who dread opinionated people and don't have any manner of defence against them because they prefer not being challenged. Give me a person who has strong views about something, regardless of mutual agreement, over an apathetic waste of space any time.

!@#$%! 10.20.2010 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Genteel Death
It's only really used by people who dread opinionated people and don't have any manner of defence against them because they prefer not being challenged. Give me a person who has strong views about something, regardless of mutual agreement, over an apathetic waste of space any time.


pendejo, let's have a drink.

oh wait, i live in the ass of the world and you live under its nose hairs.

o well. another time.

Genteel Death 10.20.2010 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
pendejo, let's have a drink.

oh wait, i live in the ass of the world and you live under its nose hairs.

o well. another time.

That'd be awesome. :)

atsonicpark 10.20.2010 08:27 PM

Johnny Depp has been famous since he grew a pube.

John Frusciante is further proof that Captain Beefheart inspired all the best musicians ever. He shot up, painted, and listened to Beefheart every day for 12 hours a day for a year. Sounds awesome.

Derek 10.21.2010 05:26 AM

And obsessively studied Burroughs.

atsonicpark 10.21.2010 07:32 AM

EVERYONE, at least watch part 3... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DgCQ...eature=related ... most amazing thing ever.

interview: "what did you think when Kurt Cobain died?"
john: "I cried. I dunno why.. his music was awful."

and then a cigarette falls out of his mouth, he nearly falls off a couch, he talks about he's frightened by the camera taking his soul, he said he doesn't understand why anyone would kill themselves when they can slam dance with their daughter.

AMAZING!

terminal pharmacy 10.21.2010 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark
great sig, derek.

frusciante is probably one of the top 10 musicians ever


usually just a t-shirt is one of my all time favourite albums, above any SY album, the man is a genius...

atsonicpark 10.21.2010 08:21 AM

REP

00_Spool 10.21.2010 08:22 AM

A Week In The Life Of John Frusciante

A great article i thought some of you would like to read.

atsonicpark 10.21.2010 08:33 AM

cool, thanks, didn't know he was into godard an herog

Derek 10.21.2010 11:19 AM

I listened to an interview where he said he obsessively watched Blue Velvet and Eraserhead as a teenager (while he wasn't jerking off or playing guitar).

He changed his mind on Nirvana in later years though, covering 'Lounge Act' in some live shows.


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