Drug music for non-drug takers
 

I've found that some people look at me strangely when I tell them I like Pink Floyd and trippy/psychedelic music even though I never have taken and most likely never will take anything stronger than liquor, caffeine, and Red Bull (not all at once mind you) and medication when necessary.

Is it really that weird to be into crazy out there sounds even though I'm not into getting fucked up in the head?

And for those who must know, it's not so much a case I'm afraid of getting caught with illicit substances by the authorities or the possible metal/physical consequences as it is I have enough trouble with my head already...I have a tendency to mumble to myself and get easily distracted sometimes, to the point of almost losing focus on my surroundings completely...

No, it's not weird. I've never done any illicit substance. Mind you, I've been
known to drink. And I mean known. That's why I don't drink very much and
I don't fuck with anything else. I'd overdo it like a dumb bitch. I know it.

the music is not about tripping. sure tripping can add to the music, but I do believe the music is just the music, its like all art, its what you make it.

I used to be attracted to trippy music long before I ever tried any drugs. I didn't know why I was attracted to it until after I tried drugs. Once I experimented with drugs, all of my trippy favorites like Janet Jackson's "Black Cat" took on another whole dimension. Nunt, nunt, nu-nu-nunt, nunt, nunt, na....

people that don't try drugs are lame. are you really going to live your whole life just curious? fuck that.

it isn't weird. what is weird is anyone who would think you have to take drugs to listen to a band.

my wife has never particularly been into any drugs but alcohol but her tastes in music have always seemed stoned to oblivion. not just her own listening habits either, if I have on the Spacemen 3 or Hawkwind she'll always have to ask me who it is like she's never heard it before, but then say how incredibly good she thinks it is. she actually envies me for the pleasure I get from smoking weed, while I envy her for seemingly not needing to do so for the same effects.

Music can evoke emotion that manifests as it's own inexpressible reaction on consciousness / perception similar to the consciousness shift when taking drugs. To me drugs are a more blatant yet not more valid way of shifting the way one reacts, as they can both be seen as valid ways of producing a shift in someone's reality tunnel beyond our Aristotelian school of thought.

My wife has never done any psychedelics and rarely alcohol. She is the complete opposite of me and we are pretty much have opposite taste in music. She has no tolerence for what is generally derived from and created by the influence of drug use, "noisy" stuff as she describes it.

I think everyone has different taste by default, but I often wonder how she would perceive the same noisy stuff if say smoking weed. I think she would actually appreciate it in a new way. We talk about it and she's willing to try it, I just never really follow through with it.

I am all about the power of music and it's at the essence of every ounce of my soul, but I will declare, music takes on a whole other dimension and to a whole other level experienced on psychedelics, even as simple as weed. I'm not turning this into a do-drug advocate, but everyone is kidding themselves if they think nothing is lacking without the influence of drugs.

To me, to put it very simply, without drugs music = 2 dimensional; with drugs music = 3 dimensional

interesting topic!

There are people who don't get high?

Yes, there are people like that.

That shit is beyond me, yo.

Yeah absolutely, I remember when getting into psych rock 'stoner' band Dead Meadow, reading a few comments from people that had gone to one of their shows sober as a cow and had said that their music actually made them feel like they were on smthing!

@ GeneticKiss, I say well done sir, you seem like a smart guy! I don't think it needs to be said, but never give into peer pressure or any of that bullshit.

I remember during my high school daze.... always smoking weed throughout and the more high I was, the more convinced I was that all of my teachers were high too (seriously). I spent all my time explaining to peers how and why I thought certain teachers were high. Looking back, it was stupid.

Something about being under the influence always makes me think the next person is as well.... it's weird. I guess the higher I got, the weirder my outlook got, the weirder people appeared and more drugged up they appeared.

speaking from experience w/jenn, this is FACT. ^ ;)

Then there are records like Fugazi's "The Argument" that are totally drugged out yet created by a notoriously sober band.

I don't drug like I used to (I used to have an extremely unhealthy daily regiment of Oxycontin and Cocaine, took me about 15 months to flush that shit out of my system, been about three years since). I still drink 2-3 nights a week, smoke weed as much, and take the occasional E.

What an idiot you are. There are more people who don't take drugs than people who do. Then you get people who shouldn't take any like yourself because they make you talk too much rubbish.

I've never done illicit substances and I probably listen to a lot more weird shit than a lot of people on this board.

I've done lots of drugs, and the only affect they've ever had is making me mildly sympathetic to some utterly shit music (Pink Floyd). Kids, just say no.

That is the stupidest shit i ever heard. Its good music I take drugs and have taken many different kinds and I DO NOT revolve my experience around what I am listening to but more so what i am doing. Its great to have some good music on when yr fucked up, but only listening to a band cause you like the way they sound when your fucked up is just wierd to me. You dont have to be fucked up to appreciate pink floyd they make it sound like it does when you are fucked up so you are really kind of defeating the purpose. I listen to them when I am dead sober mostly and wallow in pain.


And please don't start taking shit if you are already showing signs of mental illness IT DOES MAKE IT WORSE I am living proof. It is NOT fun it is miserable. Do you really want to fully understand why Kurdt shot himself??? I do. Its not a good way to think.You got a good head on yr shoulders.:)

that statement is ignorant and naive. Sounds like what I said fuckin 17 years ago....now im 33 and in the throws of addiction and mental problems.

Ive said it before IT is NOT better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all.

If you don't know what you are "missing" you are not going to go searching for it.

sounds like someone needs to mellow out with a joint

No, it's just pointless clichés.
I used to smoke pot and listen to punk/hc. On the other hand, smoking pot never made me enjoy reggae.

I've nothing against people not taking drugs but I can't get with the whole, I can like [x] band just as much straight as a person who's off their face. That might work for some bands but listening to 808 State on E or Electric Wizard on weed is a totally different experience to listening to either of them on a can of Fanta. It's possible to still like them, but only in the way that it's possible to like a film designed to be watched in 3D without wearing the glasses.

That's right, their brain would react in a different manner due to the strange frequencies the brain has not experienced before, transferring it into a different state. Meditation / pranayama / yoga too does the same without the usage of drugs due to the 'stillness' in the mind. Robert Anton Wilson talks about it a bit; not necessarily about music, but not exclusive to drugs and pranayama. Check it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVC0FcSRxL8

awesome! cheers, now I want to look down my reality tunnel.

The drugs themselves merely enhance the experience of listening to a good band, they don't exactly make the band what it is. If you get properly mashed and you're in the mood, even a band that you don't like can turn entertaining. And even then it's because the drugs are having a good effect on your body, not what's being played.

I'm mildly stoned right now and your post doesn't read as shite as it probably is.

woah thats' a nasty & expensive jones. Congratulations. Pat yourself on the back each and every day!

shitty suburban kid weed causes me not to give a fuck about music - it all sounds vague and ambient.

yeah it sucked. i try not to dwell on it though. i notice a lot of former users in AA/NA solely identify themselves as former users, and if it works for them, that's great, whatever helps. me personally, i just like to get on with my life.

Suburb kids always have the best weed.

thats not stupid, its no secret that many teachers are as stoned if not more so then many students. it wasn't just you, its real ;)

does anybody know for a fact that Fugazi don't do drugs? have any of them ever made any statements about use of intoxicants in Fugazi days? I know Ian once wrote a song on the subject, but Minor Threat is pretty ancient history and now he really codes everything he says. I haven't read every interview out there, so if there is something where they proclaim themselves drug free, I'd be really curious. I can't imagine being into the sounds on Red Medicine and not liking getting high, but I know that's just me and my own frame of reference (or reeference as the case may be...)

I have also a friend who once told me, that he can´t listen early Pink Floyd without drugs. I have always listened them without drugs and they have took me to the whole new dimensions! I have never used nothing more than alcohol. Maybe I could have tried weed, when I was younger (I used to live very small village, there was no drugs available). Now I don´t need any drugs because I have noticed even alcohol has me more negative impacts than positive. I have now so good life, that I don´t have any need to ruin it. I have very great ability to become dependent on things (like these Sonic Youth sites) so I don´t want to take risk.