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lovesonicevol 07.09.2006 01:27 AM

Any Bad Seeds around?
 
I love Sonic Youth extremly, but there is only one musician/band that beats them in my sonic library. Nick Cave and The Bad Seeds are it. The way mr. Cave writes is extremly bluesy/gothic and it makes me want to murder a dress till it hurts. Are there any other Cave fans out there? If so, (cliche I know) what are your favorite albums, bad seeds, etc....

Stacks of green paper in his red right hand....

Norma J 07.09.2006 01:39 AM

I love Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds. One of them bands that just have it - they're very special.

I think their best album to date, is Abattoir Blues/the Lyre of Orpheus. Not because I am an uneducated NIck Cave fan and just got into them, hardly the case. It's just their strongest album, it's double album and both discs are amazing. Saying this, I think all Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds albums are amazing.

lovesonicevol 07.09.2006 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Norma J
I love Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds. One of them bands that just have it - they're very special.

I think their best album to date, is Abattoir Blues/the Lyre of Orpheus. Not because I am an uneducated NIck Cave fan and just got into them, hardly the case. It's just their strongest album, it's double album and both discs are amazing. Saying this, I think all Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds albums are amazing.


Amen to that. I can't even pick between Lyre and Abattoir. Really sad that Blixa left though.

luxinterior 07.09.2006 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by lovesonicevol
I love Sonic Youth extremly, but there is only one musician/band that beats them in my sonic library. Nick Cave and The Bad Seeds are it. The way mr. Cave writes is extremly bluesy/gothic and it makes me want to murder a dress till it hurts. Are there any other Cave fans out there? If so, (cliche I know) what are your favorite albums, bad seeds, etc....

Stacks of green paper in his red right hand....


Those are Nick's feet in my avatar.

But yes, his sheer talent for writing (of many kinds) means that he will almost always maul the competition. There is something about it that I just really understand and believe in. And I stress the point that he is gifted in many areas, which isn't something I see often. When I first began listening to Nick Cave, I didn't expect that he would ever be among my favorites. It wasn't until I really listened to him a bit later that it hit me how fantastic he was.

My favorite Bad Seeds record might be The First Born Is Dead, or From Her To Eternity. The former captures such a distinct mood, and I always appreciate an album that can do that so well. The latter was my first Bad Seeds record, so those songs always make me feel like I'm listening to Nick for the first time. But really, his entire output is a godsend and I can't imagine what I would do without it. These days, I don't feel like listening to much else.

h8kurdt 07.09.2006 02:50 AM

Greatest lyricist ever in my opinion but he sure is one moody sod.

I don't know about album but their best song has to be 'Nobodys baby now. I really can't describe how good of a song it is.

luxinterior 07.09.2006 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by h8kurdt
Greatest lyricist ever in my opinion but he sure is one moody sod.


"People think I'm a miserable sod but it's only because I get asked such bloody miserable questions." - Duh

luxinterior 07.09.2006 02:57 AM

And while I'm on the subject of Nick Cave quotes, this one used to be my signature on this board:

I just, you know, pretty much am what I am, you know, I have to wake up in the morning and be what I am. If people have some sort of concept of me, I don't know, living in a fucking gothic mansion and you know, eating babies for breakfast or whatever, I don't know. I can live with that really. It's better than them thinking that I put on a kind of tracksuit every morning and jog around the block or whatever.

lovesonicevol 07.09.2006 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by luxinterior
Those are Nick's feet in my avatar.

But yes, his sheer talent for writing (of many kinds) means that he will almost always maul the competition. There is something about it that I just really understand and believe in. And I stress the point that he is gifted in many areas, which isn't something I see often. When I first began listening to Nick Cave, I didn't expect that he would ever be among my favorites. It wasn't until I really listened to him a bit later that it hit me how fantastic he was.

My favorite Bad Seeds record might be The First Born Is Dead, or From Her To Eternity. The former captures such a distinct mood, and I always appreciate an album that can do that so well. The latter was my first Bad Seeds record, so those songs always make me feel like I'm listening to Nick for the first time. But really, his entire output is a godsend and I can't imagine what I would do without it. These days, I don't feel like listening to much else.


Those two albums are wonderful. My favorite at the time would have to be Your Funeral....My Trail.

lovesonicevol 07.09.2006 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by luxinterior
And while I'm on the subject of Nick Cave quotes, this one used to be my signature on this board:

I just, you know, pretty much am what I am, you know, I have to wake up in the morning and be what I am. If people have some sort of concept of me, I don't know, living in a fucking gothic mansion and you know, eating babies for breakfast or whatever, I don't know. I can live with that really. It's better than them thinking that I put on a kind of tracksuit every morning and jog around the block or whatever.


That's a great quote. I love how Mr. Cave hates genres and classifications. He is one of a fucking kind.

h8kurdt 07.09.2006 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by luxinterior
And while I'm on the subject of Nick Cave quotes, this one used to be my signature on this board:

I just, you know, pretty much am what I am, you know, I have to wake up in the morning and be what I am. If people have some sort of concept of me, I don't know, living in a fucking gothic mansion and you know, eating babies for breakfast or whatever, I don't know. I can live with that really. It's better than them thinking that I put on a kind of tracksuit every morning and jog around the block or whatever.


Was that from a Q magazine interview?

Quote:



"People think I'm a miserable sod but it's only because I get asked such bloody miserable questions." - Duh



Hehe

luxinterior 07.09.2006 03:09 AM

I probably sound like I'm ignoring his more recent albums, specifically the double album, so I just have to say that that one in particular came as a shock to me. And it's funny because the themes it dealt with were not far removed from what he tends to touch upon, but both discs--even the slower ballads--felt so injected with life, and had this undercurrent of joy, as if Nick and the band felt they were doing their best work yet. I love albums that give me that feeling, especially when they seem to come out of nowhere.

luxinterior 07.09.2006 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by h8kurdt
Was that from a Q magazine interview?


I found it when I was at this address:
http://www.cucamonga.be/interviews/NickCave0499.htm

lovesonicevol 07.09.2006 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by luxinterior
I probably sound like I'm ignoring his more recent albums, specifically the double album, so I just have to say that that one in particular came as a shock to me. And it's funny because the themes it dealt with were not far removed from what he tends to touch upon, but both discs--even the slower ballads--felt so injected with life, and had this undercurrent of joy, as if Nick and the band felt they were doing their best work yet. I love albums that give me that feeling, especially when they seem to come out of nowhere.


I felt the same way when listening to the double album. From the first drum roll on Get Ready For Love to the last melancholy chord on O Children...100%.

luxinterior 07.09.2006 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by lovesonicevol
I felt the same way when listening to the double album. From the first drum roll on Get Ready For Love to the last melancholy chord on O Children...100%.


I really would give my "first born" to see the Bad Seeds in concert.

Some bands' live shows--whether witnessed in person or on video--bore me to tears no matter how much I like their music. But I always enjoy watching Nick and the gang perform. Maybe it's for the best that I haven't seen them live. I would probably do something terribly embarrassing, like spontaneously combust.

lovesonicevol 07.09.2006 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by luxinterior
I really would give my "first born" to see the Bad Seeds in concert.

Some bands' live shows--whether witnessed in person or on video--bore me to tears no matter how much I like their music. But I always enjoy watching Nick and the gang perform. Maybe it's for the best that I haven't seen them live. I would probably do something terribly embarrassing, like spontaneously combust.


Haha.........I know what you mean. Do you own the Road To God Knows Where/Live At the Paradiso by any chance. I cant get over how good that dvd set is.

luxinterior 07.09.2006 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by lovesonicevol
Haha.........I know what you mean. Do you own the Road To God Knows Where/Live At the Paradiso by any chance. I cant get over how good that dvd set is.


Yes, I do own that. Just watched the Paradiso disc again the other night, actually, hahaha. I love when they end with New Morning, and what Nick says right before the song starts is just hilarious. He has a killer sense of humor, it's just a shame that not many people realize that.

lovesonicevol 07.09.2006 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by luxinterior
Yes, I do own that. Just watched the Paradiso disc again the other night, actually, hahaha. I love when they end with New Morning, and what Nick says right before the song starts is just hilarious. He has a killer sense of humor, it's just a shame that not many people realize that.


Yeah, New Morning is amazing. All of those ciggs being thrown up on stage.............Mick retrieving them and putting them behind his ear like a little boy to a lollipop.......It's hilarious. Three phases of Nick Cave to me (I know there's much more to him but just from what I know so far) 1. Intimidating Shell-used during interviews and lame reporters. 2. Sarcasm- used on friendlier reporters and fans. 3. Humour- used amongst the Bad Seeds and on stage.

luxinterior 07.09.2006 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by lovesonicevol
Yeah, New Morning is amazing. All of those ciggs being thrown up on stage.............Mick retrieving them and putting them behind his ear like a little boy to a lollipop.......It's hilarious. Three phases of Nick Cave to me (I know there's much more to him but just from what I know so far) 1. Intimidating Shell-used during interviews and lame reporters. 2. Sarcasm- used on friendlier reporters and fans. 3. Humour- used amongst the Bad Seeds and on stage.


Haha, no wonder I like the guy so much. One of my friends once called me the most intimidating, disagreeable person she had ever met until she got to know me a little better. Whatever that means.

nomadicfollower 07.09.2006 11:24 AM

I have Murder Ballads. A fun album to listen to, just not very often. I've never explored any of their other works, though.

Savage Clone 07.09.2006 11:57 AM

From Her To Eternity is my favorite, but I love most of Nick's stuff in all of his bands.

I think it's pretty amazing to follow what he has done and how he has evolved. I also think it's pretty amazing that he can make music that so many different people of such a large age range can enjoy equally.

sonicl 07.09.2006 01:34 PM

I'm just catching up on the board after a week away, so I haven't the time for an essay, but, yes, I love NCATBS - I've seen them 11 times, I think.

My fave is The Boatman's Call.

lovesonicevol 07.09.2006 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by sonicl
I'm just catching up on the board after a week away, so I haven't the time for an essay, but, yes, I love NCATBS - I've seen them 11 times, I think.

My fave is The Boatman's Call.


Holy shit! I'm a Cave fanatic but i've never seen them live. I wish........................Oh yes, I love Boatman's Call as well. It's a rather intimate Nick Cave record. I share many of his same beliefs that can be heard on Into My Arms. All Hail King Ink!

cura 07.09.2006 06:02 PM

I LOVE NICK CAVE !!!!


But, more than The Bad Seeds I love The Birthday Party, it's brilliant!!!!!!!!!!

Pookie 07.09.2006 06:11 PM

Impossible to say a favourite NCATBS album. The first two or three albums had tracks which were sublime, but the more recent ones see Nick Cave's songwriting reach new heights & maturity. And his voice just gets better.

For the uninitiated, buy ANY record that Nick Cave has had any involvement with.

cura 07.09.2006 06:17 PM

Well, my favourite is was and will be From her to eternity.


Masterpiece


(not that the others aren't, but i oh so loooove thatone...)

Norma J 07.09.2006 07:16 PM

Yeah, I find it sad that Blixa left. Road to God Knows Where is awesome, the part whjere Blixa is arguing against the venue about money and the venue dudes just aren't getting what he's saying, yet he doesn't back down, is great. Although, saying this, his departure did not affect the Bad Seeds at all, if you consider Abattoir Blues/the Lyre of Orpheus. But he was definitely a major part of the Bad Seeds, who will be missed, no doubt.

Anyone here seen the film The Proposition? It's a great movie, that only Mr Cave could have wrote. So very beautiful.

terminal pharmacy 07.09.2006 07:38 PM

my favourite would be, first born os dead, followed at the moment by no more shall we part then abbatoir. blixa leaving has had an effect on the bad seeds, maybe not on record, but live there was a hole on the stage where blixa once stood and a distinct lack of his unique guitar sound. there was a second keyboard player added who didnt do alot. warren ellis filled some of the shoes with the bazouki but not completely. i love all those mother fuckers though they are awesome.

Gookid 07.09.2006 09:22 PM

How long did Blixa play with him?

Cantankerous 07.09.2006 09:33 PM

They are class. The Birthday Party is excellent as well.

terminal pharmacy 07.09.2006 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Gookid
How long did Blixa play with him?


blixa was in the bad seeds from the start of the bad seeds until nocturna

lovesonicevol 07.10.2006 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Gookid
How long did Blixa play with him?


Blixa was teamed with Nick Cave at the last stage of the Birthday Party (He played guitar on Mutiny In Heaven) As Far as the Bad Seeds go, he was in From Her To Eternity until Nocturama. He worked on Nocturama. He is still friends with the band though.


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