Wu-Massacre - Ghost Rae Meth
 

Anybody looking forward to this? I was really excited when I first heard about it just because of the three emcees involved but I've read recently that the album was rushed a bit.

i'm still waiting for swift and changeable, or whatever it was called

at this point I'm only excited about it as being a new Ghostface album. The last Meth album I really liked was TICAL 0 and regardless of what (seemingly) everyone thought, I was really disappointed in CUBAN LINX 2.

Meth really does not sound like he's fucking around lately...which bodes
well for the album.

Swift and Changeable will come out around the same time as Detox.

Yeah, Meth does seem serious these days.

http://www.rapbasement.com/method-ma...ails-here.html

The only recent thing I've heard from him are his appearences on OB4CL2 and I thought he was great. I'm pretty sure the lyrics for the album will be great, i just hope the production is good too.

who will deliver the boom bap?

so I got this over the weekend. It's sort of anticlimatic. I mean, it's not bad by any means. It's sort of like, by the time you get to "Miranda" and yr like "woah, now THIS is the fukin' song I was WAITING for" the album just sort of ends and you look at yr watch and yr like THAT"S IT? THE ALBUMS OVER? Weird. So like I said. Not bad. Just sort of not enough I guess. Especially in this day & age of "mixtapes that sound like the album."

I dig it.

I don't not dig it. But it leaves me wanting more. I'm not sure it was worth $10. It feels like an EP almost. Also, I think I wanted a lot more Ghost on the thing. But that's personal preference.

I really love "Miranda" as previously mentioned. I think the new "Crimiinology" is good. Does anyone else feel like a lot of the tracks end really abruptly or just fade out really quickly though? I don't know, I find that gives it a sort of unfinished feel.

I just burned a copy.

Def Jam rushed it out of them, but it's still a good album.

getting it now. hooray.

that's what it sounds like. And yr right. It's a good album. It had the potential to be a great album though.

Here's something weird. I ripped the CD and sync'd it to my Sidekick and for some reason it freezes my Sidekick up. I have no idea why. No other mp3's do that.

I think of it more as a mixtape, and a damn good one. It's better than anything Ghsot has done since "Fishscale", but of course not nearly as good as Cuban Linx 2.

noisereductions, have you seen wu: the story of the wu tang clan? just burned it, haven't watched it yet..

hmm. I remember it coming out, but come to think of it I don't think I ever saw it. 2007/2008ish right? Damn. No I guess I missed it.

I remember watching the Wu-Tang docu that U-God put together. haha. And I saw The W, and the live DVD. And the ODB documentary. And a RZA DVD as well. Jeez... how'd I miss WU come to think of it?

1. it's the opposite of a mixtape. It's short and concise. As in all fat (even song outro's) have been stripped. Skits are minute.
2. You MIGHT be right about best thing Ghost did since Fischscale. Though I'd say MORE FISH was better than this. And I won't get into his mixtapes.
3. CUBAN LINX 2 is over-rated. I know I'm in the minority (or at least minority who will vocalize it), but it's certainly Rae's best album in years, but it's really not that extraordinary.

Still need to pick this up. Hopefully today. But yeah, looked on wiki and apparently it's only 29:58 in length. Well, as long as its got good beats and good lyrics I'm sold.

And just cuious, noisereductions, but why didn't you like OB4CL2?

oh it's not that I didn't like it, I just was dissappointed. I guess in fairness to Rae, I would have liked the album slightly more had it been called ANY OTHER TITLE other than a sequel to CUBAN LINX. I've written very long and possibly boring rants about the ridiculous perfection of CUBAN LINX. The plot, the pacing, the production, the importance of using characters and the roles that these characters play throughout the album.

As a sequel, CL2 is just not there. It's just not even close. It's a fine album on it's own made of up of GOOD songs with GOOD lyrics and GOOD beats. But it's just NOT even close to the original and the CHINESE DEMOCRACY/DETOX waiting game that led up to it only made that more glaring. But by promising a sequel he forced me (or other listeners I'm sure) to compare the two records, and EXPECT something of the same calibur.

Cuban Linx is a 5/5. This is a... um 3.5/5? Which is certainly not bad. But disappointing if you were expecting another 5/5.

I see what yr saying. I was only judging it by its great songs and forgot to take into account the things (plot, characters, etc.) that made the first one really really good instead of just good. I'll have to re-listen to it to judge it again.

I guess that's the other thing. I only heard a handful of "great" songs. Most songs on OB4CL2 I felt were just "good" songs. Like I couldn't tell you that there was anything bad about that. But they weren't quite great to me for the most part.

I hate to quote Pitchfork, but really I think this paragraph pretty much articulates my thoughts on WU-MASSACRE:

The limitations of that turnaround are unmistakable on Wu-Massacre. The three stars appear on a total of three songs together, and the padding they needed to push the album beyond CD-single status is obvious from the credits alone: two skits, guest verses from nearly every Theodore Unit B-teamer (Sheek Louch sorta counts at this point), and three remakes. All to account for about 30 minutes of music.

I mean, yeah the brevity and unfinished sound was certainly a major complaint for me. But as they pointed out, the album is credited to Meth, Ghost & Rae... that was the major selling point. That's WHY we wanted this album. But Meth, Ghost & Rae really only completed 3 songs together. Then Def Jam had them add some filler to those 3 songs until it ALMOST hit the half-hour mark and called that shit a day. Perhaps it would be nice to actually someday hear a Meth, Ghost & Rae album that is a full album of those 3 together.

I just picked this up. About to listen. I can, however, say that the artwork rules. I got the Ghost cover.

I was disappointed. Definitely felt rushed. It was good in terms of beats and lyrics but it needed more. This had a lot of potential.

I got the Ghostface cover too! By far the coolest one.

Listening now. I dig it, obviously it's too short and not all of it is hot, but I kinda appreciate the short length. The whole thing has a weird flow, things cutting off, completely stopping, often.. everything is so short and compact. There's not much filler, I just wish all 3 rapped on more songs. OUR DREAMS can fuck off.

It's cool so far. The album artwork is amazing. I ripped it, so I only have digital versions of the covers, but I love how they went comic style!

Edited: Why doesn't Method Man bring back some of them 'phat beats' that he used to be loved for. It seems like a lot of hip-hop these days sounds like Jay-Z and the likes. I mean, it's not an overly bad thing, but why no rapping over a strong beat anymore?

And I agree, 'Our Dream' is a terrible song.

Meth even mentions Jay-Z on one of the songs!

hahaha yeah that line is hilarious! I think a 30 minute album would have been fine if there were no skits, and if the songs didn't fade out with no warning. And yes, all 3 should be on every track, with no guests.

sounds like a cash quick fix for one of them or all three of them....

Or Def Jam

it's this.

i got the method man cover.

i don't mind that it's short, i am however bothered by the fact that the music isn't that good. i like pimpin' chipp and our dreams.

none of is bad just nothing special, meth vs chef.2 is so different from the original and so far off quality wise it's an insult to the name

its really good! i like it at least.

Just don't understand the point of a 29 minute album (with only, what, 25 minutes of it being music) that is probably $15.

becuz money = bitches. or so i am led to believe, its all in 'the game' or something.

Like, those dudes could have some with 25 minutes worth of decent rhymes over decent beats in probably an hour. This thing just felt so lazy and rushed, all things considered. I don't mind it, as I wrote above, it was an easy listen, and nothing was overly bad about it, but I do feel sorry for anyone that purchased it.

I purchased it. And was let down.

fuck you pay me.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to jon boy again.