if punk broke in 91, what year did noise break?
 

if it has indeed broken? it seems there are more people around playing noise now than ever. noise being however you interpet it but i am mainly talking wolf eyes type noise.

when the killers cover prurient

[via motley crue and "anarchy"]

What a fucking stupid question.

I always thought Punk broke when the Sex Pistols got to number one.

never should have let that douchebag borrow my car... wait did i say that out loud?

LOL. I seem to recall 76-77 being the big punk breakthrough years, and I think the big Noise breakthrough was 79-80. But that's just my perspective/opinion/experience.

PS I'm 47.

America was 15yrs late it seems, and they called it "grunge".

Haven't really seen straight noise on the television so I think we can say it hasn't.

And hopefully it never will.

obviously punk didnt 'break in 91', just making a reference to the film.

Wolf Eyes are to Throbbing Gristle what Nirvana was to Black Flag.

I always thought "The Year Punk Broke" was just as much annoying as it was clever. I mean, who makes these judgment calls? Thurston Moore and Kat Bejelland?

Of course I'm not being completely serious.

noise still didn't broke ( in the way of wolf eyes type )...or will broke when lady gaga cover merzbow.

the idea is one of throoston, who claims that in the early 90s the punk-ish "outside" music broke through the mainstream-- the phrase is actually said by kim in the movie-- that idea repeats itself when throoston wrote his neu york times piece about nirvano, what is his name, stilton, no, kurdt. yes. there he elaborates on the same notion. how for a brief moment and then boom, you have arrrrrr what?

so for him & co "punk" does not stand for 1977, its stands for (quote another movie title) "attitude" that continues-- an ethos, of sorts. and that same idea repeats again in said movie "punk is/ punk ain't" (marlon riggs).

any huevos hueveras chalona akkording to said notion pop culture versions of "noise" would belong to the same punk current. so no, metal machine music didnt break the mainstream (or however it was that keeem put itt).

i say pop culture versions of noise cuz back in the 30s maybe the avantgardists were already shitting up a storm with electroacoustic paraphernalia however little did it catch though it resurged perhaps in the 70s though it never disappeared but wasnt part of "youth culture", jazz was (then). however then ornette coleman albert ayler aha! aha! welllllll;;;;

That's one interpretation, yes. Its also one I've already considered. I just prefer "broke" as in "fell apart" better. Only because its more fun.

like 80 years ago.

the year punk broke.

that does not necessarily mean the year punk broke through to the mainstream.

to me it means the year punk BROKE. the year that all it's aspirations died.

noise was broke when it started! ha!

fuck mainstream. punk never broke...punk it's not dead...punk it's alive.

punk broke down when it stopped being broke. or anway that's what ben weasel told me. fuck thurston and his cash money.

I don't follow politics.

It's more or less the same.

I guess that is true.

to me punk broke because the ideals (lofty word for a mindset) were turned into an ideology. that shit happened way before 1991 right?

Probably. I guess punk was mainstream in 1977.
But in the eighties, it was a subculture, and only the audience would make a band success.
Then came Nirvana, with video clip, promotion, hype ; punk turned into a part of the music industry again.

1768......

Philip Astley stages the first modern circus, with acrobats on galloping horses

nuff said bitches!

I think 79/80 was a huge start turning point for Noise though, with Merzbow, Hijokaidan, Whitehouse and many other "main" players erupting at that time.

And fucken, Punk really did hit big and hard in 76-77.

I WAS THERE.

thank Mario someone was.


I found a pic of what appears to be Glice's latest punk project

"Noise" has to be the lamest genre ever thought up by music hacks as a means to lump bands together. It's probably the most generic.

Hahaha. Bait.

Classical music could be labelled "noise", it's that generic.

Do you actually listen to music or do you try and find intellectual differences with everything?

"grunge" is the worst

That's the point I was making in regards to music hacks insistence of lumping bands together under lazily thought up genres. Way to go in using it to insult me with. :rolleyes:

of course you would say 79. it's the year of the merz.

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