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SonikJesus 11.21.2009 08:51 PM

weezer - Pinkerton deluxe
 
just found out. such a great album.

http://www.musicradar.com/news/guita...ue-soon-223555

atsonicpark 11.21.2009 09:15 PM

Yeah, it rules balls.

Jeremy 11.21.2009 09:25 PM

I've known for a little while now (They even teased it when Blue Album Deluxe came out years ago), I am very excited, considering:

1)The record kicks ass
2)B-Sides kick ass
3)We've been waiting to hear the two unreleased b-sides forever
4)Apparently there's crazy stuff nobody's even heard of that will be on it

It will definitely be excellent.

~Jeremy~

noisereductions 11.21.2009 10:48 PM

by far my favorite Weezer album. By far.

Jeremy 11.22.2009 12:07 AM

Pinkerton is my favorite too (Seems to be universal around here), but I love the Blue Album a whole lot as well. Everything after that is pretty hit or miss. Raditude was just awful.

~Jeremy~

HaydenAsche 11.22.2009 12:58 AM

Pinkerton is the only one I have any significant interest in. A fantastic album from a fairly mediocre band.

loubarret 11.22.2009 06:58 AM

OMG...

This brings back memories of 12 year old Lou listing to Pinkerton nearly daily(something he did since he was 10). It's such a great album still, I love every note on it and finnaly the deluxe is going to come!

The Earl Of Slander 11.22.2009 11:37 AM

This is one of those classic albums I've always intended to check out, but have never gotten around to actually hearing, aside from one or two (awesome) tracks on Youtube. I will be using this deluxe edition as an exuse to finally dive in...

dazedcola 11.22.2009 02:48 PM

This almost makes up for raditude.......almost

StevOK 11.22.2009 09:06 PM

I can't wait!

punkaspoo 11.23.2009 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HaydenAsche
Pinkerton is the only one I have any significant interest in. A fantastic album from a fairly mediocre band.


don't forget the first one. i agree that nowdays the band is mediocre...no, today they suck big time

joetee316 11.23.2009 11:03 AM

Didn't know this was out. I have to look into this when I get home from work. I prefer the Blue Album though... and Ihave the deluxe version of that one.

HaydenAsche 11.23.2009 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by punkaspoo
don't forget the first one. i agree that nowdays the band is mediocre...no, today they suck big time


I'm aware that a first album exists, yes. However, I don't find it more than moderately acceptable. Weezer is for those who are too stoned to look for more interesting music. Even the songs they sing now remind me of the songs off of the other albums. Pinkerton just lacked any extremely piss-poor songs, something no other Weezer release can say for itself. It's also got some fucking BEAUTIFUL songs. Straight up fucking fantastic album.

But the first one? Doo doo.

HaydenAsche 11.23.2009 03:31 PM

Although, I will say that the Blue Album did have some fairly decent tracks/demos on the bonus disc.

Jeremy 11.23.2009 11:04 PM

World Has Turned And Left Me Here? Only In Dreams? Holiday? No One Else? Say It Ain't So? None of those, in addition to the rest of the record, are good, or at least decent enough to say it's better than "doo doo"?

Suzanne is even on the Deluxe Edition and that song is a whole lot better than "fairly decent" I think.

~Jeremy~

SonikJesus 11.24.2009 01:46 AM

They used to be a fucking awesome band.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ssqro3u1lY

DeadDiscoDildo 11.24.2009 04:04 AM

I approve of this. Weezer died when matt sharp left, and they werent' revolutionary or anything by any means but they wrote some great pop/rock/noise pop songs in their early days...

Across the Sea is genius...

Nice weird chords/chord changes and melodies and ideas all over pinkerton...

StevOK 11.24.2009 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeremy
World Has Turned And Left Me Here? No One Else? Say It Ain't So? None of those, in addition to the rest of the record, are good, or at least decent enough to say it's better than "doo doo"?


I must disagree about these songs.

HaydenAsche 11.24.2009 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeadDiscoDildo
I approve of this. Weezer died when matt sharp left, and they werent' revolutionary or anything by any means but they wrote some great pop/rock/noise pop songs in their early days...

Across the Sea is genius...

Nice weird chords/chord changes and melodies and ideas all over pinkerton...


Across the Sea is a definite ++++.

Jeremy 11.26.2009 05:56 PM

I have been loving Devotion and You Gave Your Love To Me Softly recently.

~Jeremy~

SonikJesus 10.07.2010 10:55 AM

http://www.punknews.org/article/39970

The Earl Of Slander 10.08.2010 06:05 AM

Apparently there's going to be a 4LP version of this too, ala the SY deluxe sets. I'm all over that shit.

hevusa 10.08.2010 08:46 AM

I've never understood remastered and "Deluxe" versions of crap. The original album is just fine and costs half the price (if not less). Reissues are just a money making scheme to make music nerds prove their love.

atsonicpark 10.08.2010 02:45 PM

^ To collect all the b-sides on one album, I guess.

noisereductions 10.08.2010 02:56 PM

I buy certain reissues... Sonic Youth obviously, Pavement, Beck, etc.. but really I always wish that instead of a reissue of the album they just release a standalone disc or set of all the b-sides from a period. Why tack a bunch of shit onto Dirty when they could just make a single standalone disc called PRETTY FUCKING DIRTY or something of all the Dirty bsides. That would be way cooler.

hevusa 10.08.2010 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atsonicpark
^ To collect all the b-sides on one album, I guess.



And is it worth hearing all the shit that was cut out the first time around for a reason? Not usually.

Dr. Eugene Felikson 10.08.2010 04:35 PM

Sometimes b-side tracks are better than the ones that made the album. They're not always cut 'cause they suck, often it's just to give the album a better flow. I'm sure you know that though.

noisereductions 10.08.2010 04:57 PM

in the case of Weezer, the bsides from the first album are as good and maybe better than the album.

hevusa 10.08.2010 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Eugene Felikson
Sometimes b-side tracks are better than the ones that made the album. They're not always cut 'cause they suck, often it's just to give the album a better flow. I'm sure you know that though.


I have never found this to be true. What sometimes are we talking about here?

The Earl Of Slander 10.08.2010 08:04 PM

Well, considering we're on the SY board, Genetic and Lee 2, from the Dirty and Goo reissues respectively, are both as good as anything on those albums. Another great example is Radiohead, who have a BUNCH of their best songs as b-sides, such as Trans-Atlantic Drawl or Polyethalene. The Breeders and The Beatles are also great examples. I've often said that you can kind of judge a band's overall awesomeness by the quality of their B-sides, because these were the songs they could afford to throw away. If they still rock, it bodes very well for the band's creativity.

hevusa 10.08.2010 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Earl Of Slander
Well, considering we're on the SY board, Genetic and Lee 2, from the Dirty and Goo reissues respectively, are both as good as anything on those albums. Another great example is Radiohead, who have a BUNCH of their best songs as b-sides, such as Trans-Atlantic Drawl or Polyethalene. The Breeders and The Beatles are also great examples. I've often said that you can kind of judge a band's overall awesomeness by the quality of their B-sides, because these were the songs they could afford to throw away. If they still rock, it bodes very well for the band's creativity.


I do enjoy Radiohead's b-sides but they are probably the exception.

atsonicpark 10.08.2010 09:07 PM

Pinkerton's b-sides are a thousand times better than Pinkerton itself...

Gonna have to agree with Transatlantic Drawl, def. my fav. Radiohead song.

the ikara cult 10.08.2010 10:18 PM

i dont know what were supposed to do with Pinkerton, why doesnt someone come up with an answer to this problem?

Indie band Weezer are offered $10m to split up



 

Online petition launched to raise money to get the US rockers to quit


By Jonathan Harwood
LAST UPDATED 3:15 PM, OCTOBER 7, 2010 Share



The American indie band Weezer is being offered $10m to split up by a disgruntled listener, who has launched an online petition to raise the money. James Burns is asking everyone who signs to cough up at least $12 to help pay off the band, fronted by Rivers Cuomo.
Burns says he was motivated to start the campaign out of concern for the wellbeing of fans who have been disappointed by the band's new material.
"If we reach at least $10m then we get a chance to possibly stop hearing about a shitty new Weezer album every goddamn year,” writes Burns at petition website The Point .
"Every year, Rivers Cuomo swears that he's changed, and that their new album is the best thing that he's done since Pinkerton, and what happens? Another pile of crap like Beverly Hills or I'm Your Daddy.
"This is an abusive relationship, and it needs to stop now. I am tired of my friends being disappointed year after year. I am tired of endless whimsical cutesy album covers and music videos. I'm sick of hearing about whatever this terrible... excuse for a band is up to these days."
Burns's chances of success appear slim, however. Two days after launching the campaign only 16 people had made a donation and Burns was still $9,999,685 short of his target.
The band is aware of the campaign. Weezer's drummer Patrick Wilson used Twitter to try to raise the stakes. "If they can make it $20m, we'll do the 'deluxe breakup'," he announced.
Weezer was formed in the early 1990s and enjoyed success with the songs Undone - The Sweater Song and Buddy Holly. The videos for both songs were directed by Spike Jonze and became popular on MTV. The clip for Buddy Holly was filmed and edited to look as though it was part of the TV show Happy Days.
The band's first album, one of three released with the title Weezer, established their reputation, but the follow-up, Pinkerton, was voted one of the worst albums of 1996 by Rolling Stone magazine. However, it attained cult status and sold almost 1 million copies



Read more: http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/69781,...#ixzz11pOwvtqL

DeadDiscoDildo 10.14.2010 12:26 PM

Speakin of weezer.

Miss Sweeney is an awesome song I found on youtube from the red album.

Sounds kind of like pinkerton but alittle fresher.

Nothing amazing, but it strikes a chord with me for some reason.

I like how he sings the verses too.


I havent bought an album of theirs since maladroit but check out a song or two from each album. He finally has one good song.

noisereductions 10.14.2010 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noisereductions
I buy certain reissues... Sonic Youth obviously, Pavement, Beck, etc.. but really I always wish that instead of a reissue of the album they just release a standalone disc or set of all the b-sides from a period. Why tack a bunch of shit onto Dirty when they could just make a single standalone disc called PRETTY FUCKING DIRTY or something of all the Dirty bsides. That would be way cooler.


BTW, oddly Weezer apparently did exactly what I'm talking about. They released the Blue Album deluxe bonus disc on its own! As its own album!

finding nobody 10.14.2010 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noisereductions
BTW, oddly Weezer apparently did exactly what I'm talking about. They released the Blue Album deluxe bonus disc on its own! As its own album!

Jesus.. That is retarded. The disc was cool and everything.. but jeez
L00kin f0rward 2 dee reissue th0.


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