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ni'k 11.17.2009 12:52 AM

top 100 albums of the 00's
 
i can't wait to be honest even after a decade of shitty list culture. will be interesting to read other people's from this board to see what i've missed. also to see what stylistic shifts and trends become noticable in retrospect, how much utter shit i was listening to back at the start of the decade. at the moment hairdryer peace, wigmaker and physicalities of ingrediential stairways are in my top 5. i don't know if its just having nothing to do till the end of the year that is exciting me about this or what. anyone else thinking about this?

the most important thing to remember tho is the point of doin lists is NOT to reach some sort of consensus among other people, or else you are just manufacturing genericism.

Moshe 11.17.2009 01:31 AM

http://www.largeheartedboy.com/blog/...f_the_200.html

atsonicpark 11.17.2009 04:18 AM

This has been such an epic, amazing 10 years for music. At the top of my list would be secret chiefs 3 - book of horizons, boredoms - vision creation newsun, number girl - numheavymetallic, rhys chatham - a crimson grail, suishou no fune - prayer for chibi... and shitloads more. Yeah.

The Earl Of Slander 11.17.2009 05:25 AM

This is what people thought last year:

http://www.sonicyouth.com/gossip/sho...ghlight=albums

For me at least though, over half of my votes would have been different now.

Genteel Death 11.17.2009 08:56 AM

Philip Jeck - Stoke
Kaffe Matthews - cd dd
Dizzee Rascal - Boy in Da Corner
Pink Reason - Cleaning The Mirror
Mr Lif - I Phantom
Six Organs of Admittance - Dark Noontide
Birchville Cat Motel - Astro Catastrophies/With Maples Ablaze
Times New Viking - Present The Paisley Reich
US Girls - Introducing/Gravel Days
Broadcast - Tender Buttons
Graham Lambkin - Salmon Run
Anti Pop Consortium - Tragic Epilogue
Ashtray Navigations - New Fashions in Toilet Training/ Live at Wolf Central/ Four More Raga Moods
Sensational - Get on My Page/Sensational meets Kouhei
Whiteout with Jim O'Rourke- Drunken Little Mass
The Hospitals - Hairdryer Peace
Lamborghini Crystal - 1992 Cool Runnings
Neptune - Gong Lake
Eve - Scorpion
Los Llamarada - Take The Sky
Alastair Galbraith - Orb
Drunkdriver - Born Pregnant
Drunkdriver/Mattin - List of Profound Insecurities
Akitsa - Goetie/La Grande Infamie
Subhead - Neon Rocha
Jake Mandell - Love Songs For Machines
Wolf Eyes - Burned Mind
The Hunches - Exit Dreams
Merzbow & Russell Haswell - Satanstornade
Circuit Des Yeux - Symphone
Hue Blanc's Joyless Ones - Arriere-Garde
Sonic Youth - Murray Street/NYC Ghosts & Flowers/The Eternal
Circle - Katapult/Miljard
The Goslings - Grandeur of Hair
Paul Flaherty/ Chris Corsano - Slow Blind Avalanche
Psychedelic Horseshit - Shitgaze Anthems
Mouth of The Architect/Kenoma - Split
The For Carnation - The For Carnation



I will amend it later.

Keeping It Simple 11.17.2009 09:07 AM

It's been a lackadaisical decade for music. The best album of the decade is Turn on the Bright Lights by Interpol. Best band of the decade is tied between British Sea Power and Fleet Foxes.

ni'k 11.17.2009 09:13 AM

there are no wrong answers... but british sea power is the wrong answer

Glice 11.17.2009 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NME
1. The Strokes - Is This It
2. The Libertines - Up The Bracket
3. Primal Scream - XTRMNTR
4. Arctic Monkeys - Whatever People Say I Am, That's What I'm Not
5. Yeah Yeah Yeahs - Fever To Tell
6. PJ Harvey - Stories From The City, Stories From The Sea
7. Arcade Fire - Funeral
8. Interpol - Turn On The Bright Lights
9. The Streets - Original Pirate Material
10. Radiohead - In Rainbows


I honestly have no idea what I'd have in my list, but original pirate material is a shockingly good call.

ni'k 11.17.2009 09:32 AM

let's keep this thread civil and not besmirch it with tawdry nme indie lifestyle hair gel accessory music.

radiohead = no.
one of the weakest polly harvey albums = wtf?
yyy's? only one good song on the album which is y control
arcade fire = overrated shit that was perhaps worth 1 listen.
the top four don't even deserve to be typed.

but anyway, the nme is like cancer, if you don't worry about it and just be healthy it will not ruin your life (taste in music). it will ruin your ability to write analogies tho, because it is too shit to work with.

as for the streets, k punk said it best:
"Surely even Skinner’s most loyal supporters must be given pause by the readiness with which he is championed by the post-Loaded beery, leery LLAD lobby. That co-option is no surprise, since the Streets specialize in that warmhearted fuzzy sentimentality beloved of wifebeaters , thug-drunks and other hot irrationalists everywhere, coz underneath y’know they are really sensitive (ask Gazza). Skinner is like the worst kind of pub bore, the amateur psychologist who imagines that his pitifully limited observations of ‘birds’ qualifies him to sidle up to you and proffer his facile homilies. Been dumped? ‘Plenty more fish in the sea, mate, get em in.’ But at least most other bar bores don’t back up their words of wisdom with cack-handed, Quo-tidian, quasi-Casio, sub-ska, pub-‘Garage’ that allows indie-windies to whine, “I do like SOME dance music…’ I know it might have been a novelty a few years ago to hear about chip shops on a ‘Dance’ track but, after Dizzee and Grime, there is no possible case to be made for Skinner’s pious and pompous know all-isms . It’s bad enough having to walk past boozombies lurching out of a KFC, I don’t want to listen to one in my own home, thanks."

Genteel Death 11.17.2009 09:46 AM

I've never seen what the big deal is with Skinner's lyrics.

TheFoxBen 11.17.2009 09:53 AM

I've done a "Top 100 Albums of the Decade" list but I don't know if it's interesting for you:

http://rateyourmusic.com/list/TheFox...ade__2000_2009

The Earl Of Slander 11.17.2009 11:15 AM

I no order:

Boris - Flood
Radiohead - Kid A
Talib Kweli - Train Of Thought
Deltron 3030 - s/t
Endless Summer - Fennesz
Jay-Z - Blueprint, Black Album and American Gangster
Sonic Youth - Murray Street
Beck - Sea Change
Wilco - Yankee Hotel Foxtrot and especially A Ghost is Born
King Geedorah - Take Me To Your Leader
Arcade Fire - Funeral
Madvillainy
J Dilla - Donuts
Kanye West - Late Registration
Omar Souleyman - Highway to Hassake
Deerhunter - Cryptograms and Microcastle
Atlas Sound - Let The Blind Lead...
TV On The Radio - Dear Science
Birchville Cat Motel - Gunpowder Temple Of Heaven
DOOM - Born Like This

I may try and order those at some point, but they're main albums which will be fighting to be on the list. I'm sure there's ton of stuff I forgot though. I need to properly take stock of the noise/drone stuff to list up. Hip-hop is kind of the top genre for me this decade it seems. Also, note that I didn't count Vision Creation Newsun, because it came out in 99. If that was 2000s it would be WAY up there.

atsonicpark 11.17.2009 01:13 PM

I actually like parts of original pirate material, that song about legalizing weed is pretty brilliant. The Strokes - Is This It, surprisingly great album.

The rest of that list is terrible. Yeah Yeah Yeahs are embrassing.

Decayed Rhapsody 11.17.2009 01:52 PM

This was a weird decade. I don't think I can even begin to make a list. There has been so much music made in the last 10 years that I'll still be discovering things from the 00's many years from now.

Keeping It Simple 11.17.2009 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Decayed Rhapsody
This was a weird decade. I don't think I can even begin to make a list. There has been so much music made in the last 10 years that I'll still be discovering things from the 00's many years from now.


This decade was the worst so far for treating music as a commodity business rather than as a inspirational art form. Music festivals of the past decade have been a testament to that fact.

atsonicpark 11.17.2009 03:52 PM

This has been by far the best period for underground music. An overwhelming amount of great albums released daily on tons of microlabels. Just insane.

SuperCreep 11.17.2009 03:58 PM

I'll compile a list together after the year is done. I still haven't heard Embryonic yet, which could possibly make it.

But yeah, my list will probably have shitloads of Boris, Microphones/Mount Eerie, and Okkervil River, that's for sure.

auto-aim 11.17.2009 04:34 PM

er okay. checking my rateyoumusic i've bought more music from the 2000s than any other decade which surprised me - you forget how many albums were from this decade - also they're rated the lowest. It's difficult to pick lists and it changes but i'll give it a go.

1. Thinking Fellers Union Local 282 - Bob Dinners and Larry Noodles Present Tubby Turdner's Celebrity Avalanche
2. Unwound - Leaves Turn Inside you
3. NumberGirl - Num-Heavymetallic
4. Sonic Youth - Murray Street
5. Sir Richard Bishop - Freak of the Araby
6. Shellac - 1000 Hurts
7. Interpol - Turn on the Bright lights (I think they're a crappy band overall but this record is really good.)
8. Cerberus Shoal - The Land We All Believe In
9. Thurston Moore - Trees Outside the Academy
10. No Neck Blues Band - Qvaris


from the top of my head. theres still shit loads to check out from this decade though and probably plenty i've overlooked.or mistook. i was struggling at the end. Theres some local or not so big bands that ive probably enjoyed EPs more which i may have considered.

atsonicpark 11.17.2009 04:46 PM

excellent list auto aim

cerberus fuckin shoal!

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 11.17.2009 04:49 PM

I've really enjoyed:

Shellac- 1000 Hurts
Fugazi- The Argument
Unwound- Leaves Turn Inside You
TFUL282- Tubby Turdner's
Sonic Youth- Murray Street, NYCG+F, Sonic Nurse, The Eternal, and even RR
Mission of Burma- The Obliterati, ONoffON, The Sound The Speed The Light
The Streets- A Grand Don't Come For Free
Deerhoof- Milkman, Halfbird, Reveille, Apple-O, Runners Four
Gary Wilson- Mary Had Brown Hair
Polysics- Karate House, We Ate The Machine
Hot Snakes- Automatic Midnight, Suicide Invoice, Audit in Progress

other stuff, but I can't think right now

Keeping It Simple 11.17.2009 05:11 PM

Other bands and artists I enjoyed listening to over the past decade:

Douglas Heart
eX-Girl
Weird War
The Depreciation Guild
Yeah Yeah Yeahs
Black Rebel Motorcycle Club
The Black Keys
Robin Guthrie
Engineers
The Radio Dept
Chain and The Gang
Jessie Evans
Daniel Land and The Modern Painters
The Kills
Ladytron
Au Revoir Simone

Toilet & Bowels 11.17.2009 06:30 PM

fushitsusha - i saw it! that which before i could only sense
charalambides - increase
charalambides - dead/lve & live/dead
windy & carl - conciousness
quasimoto - the unseen
polyrhythm addicts - rhyme related
cannibal ox - cold vein
mf doom - mm food
king ghidra - take me to your leader
flavour flav - hollywood
infesticons - gun hill road
mike ladd - welcome to the afterfuture
anti-pop consortium - tragic epilogue
mr lif - emergency rations
pink reason - cleaning the mirror
psychedelic horseshit - magic flowers droned
tara jane o'neil - peregrine, & you sound reflect
ghostface - supreme clientele
fursaxa - madrigals in duos
zaimph - zaimph
double leopards - halve maen
ditc - ditc
prefuse 73 - vocal studies & uprock narratives
broadcast - the noises made by people, & tender buttons
apani b fly - story 2 tell
robert pollard - from a compund eye
merzbow - yoshinotsune
merzbow & richard pinhas -keio line
striborg - trepidation
monster island czars - escape from monster island
acid mothers temple - troubadours from another heavenly world
pole - 3
teenage panzerkorps - everything they've put out

i'm sure i've forgotten lots of favourites too

auto-aim 11.17.2009 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atsonicpark
excellent list auto aim

cerberus fuckin shoal!


Why thank you sir. I know I do my fair share of lurking around here but i think i have you to thank for a couple of artistes on that list. certainly thinking fellers and i'm pretty sure the first time i heard of cerberus was after you commented on them on a thread.

Genteel Death 11.18.2009 09:37 AM

Good lists Nefeli and T&B.

Toilet & Bowels 11.18.2009 10:18 AM

some of my favourite bands of the last 10 years have been live bands (e.g. melt banana, no necks) or bands whose overall body of work i love without really being able a particular record to put on a list (mouthus, prurient)

SYRFox 11.18.2009 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keeping It Simple
It's been a lackadaisical decade for music. The best album of the decade is Turn on the Bright Lights by Interpol. Best band of the decade is tied between British Sea Power and Fleet Foxes.

what do you know from this decade musically speaking to make such stupid statements is what i wonder? have you heard anything besides those three bands?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keeping It Simple
This decade was the worst so far for treating music as a commodity business rather than as a inspirational art form. Music festivals of the past decade have been a testament to that fact.

like this wasn't a fact already in the 80s and 90s?

SYRFox 11.18.2009 02:32 PM

also, i'm working on my list myself, but here is a rough sketch of what would be my top 100 (there will probably be some changes till 2010...):

100. Giuseppe Ielasi - Aix
99. The Focus Group - We Are All Pan's People
98. Yppah - They Know What Ghost Know
97. Psychic Ills - Dins
96. Excepter - Throne
95. Errors - It's Not Something But It Is Like Whatever
94. Electrelane - Axes
93. These Are Powers - Terrific Seasons
92. Yellow Swans - At All Ends
91. Cheveu - Cheveu
90. Dragons Of Zynth - Coronation Thieves
89. Mogwai - Happy Songs For Happy People
88. Oneida - Secret Wars
87. Deltron 3030 - Deltron 3030
86. Jackie-O Motherfucker / Vibracathedral Orchestra - Jackie-O Motherfucker / Vibracathedral Orchestra
85. No Age - Weirdo Rippers
84. Abe Vigoda - Skeleton
83. Xiu Xiu - La Forêt
82. Girls Against Boys - You Can't Fight What You Can't See
81. Fuck Buttons - Street Horrrsing
80. Panda Bear - Person Pitch
79. HEALTH - Get Color
78. LCD Soundsystem - LCD Soundsystem
77. Sonic Youth - Murray Street
76. Neptune - Gong Lake
75. Liars - They Were Wrong, So We Drowned
74. Rubin Steiner - Lo-Fi Nu Jaz Vol.2
73. Esbjörn Svensson Trio - Leucocyte
72. Hot Chip - The Warning
71. Animal Collective - Sung Tongs
70. Prefuse 73 - One Word Extinguisher
69. Eric Copeland - Hermaphrodite
68. Converge - Jane Doe
67. Mouthus - The Long Salt
66. Manitoba - Start Breaking My Heart
65. Sightings - Through The Panama
64. Sonic Youth - SYR6: Koncertas Stan Brakhage Prisiminimui
63. Micachu - Jewellery
62. Mahjongg - Kontpab
61. Dizzee Rascal - Showtime
60. Ex Models - Chrome Panthers
59. Prefuse 73 - Everything She Touched Turned Ampexian
58. Dälek - Absence
57. The Present - World I See
56. !!! - Louden Up Now
55. A Silver Mt Zion - Born Into Trouble As The Sparks Fly Upward
54. The Knife - Silent Shout
53. Deerhoof - Friend Opportunity
52. Animal Collective - Spirit They're Gone, Spirit They've Vanished
51. Flying Lotus - Los Angeles
50. High Places - High Places
49. M.I.A. - Kala
48. Women - Women
47. Sigur Ros - ()
46. Mise En Abyme - Jesquibel
45. Wzt Hearts - Threads Rope Spell Making Your Bones
44. Out Hud - S.T.R.E.E.T. D.A.D.
43. Nosaj Thing - Drift
42. Simian Mobile Disco - Attack Decay Sustain Release
41. Yo La Tengo - And Then Nothing Turned Itself Inside-Out
40. Animal Collective - Strawberry Jam
39. Oneida - Preteen Weaponry
38. Godspeed You! Black Emperor - Yanqui U.X.O.
37. Excepter - Debt Dept.
36. Tim Hecker - Harmony In Ultraviolet
35. Bibio - Ambivalence Avenue
34. Aphex Twin - Drukqs
33. Tortoise - It's All Around You
32. Clark - Body Riddle
31. Out Hud - Let Us Never Speak Of It Again
30. Godspeed You! Black Emperor - Lift Yr Skinny Fists Like Antennas To Heaven!
29. Madvillain - Madvillainy
28. Sonic Youth - Sonic Nurse
27. Deerhunter - Cryptograms
26. J Dilla - Donuts
25. Battles - Mirrored
24. Gang Gang Dance - Saint Dymphna
23. Rubin Steiner - Drum Major!
22. Primal Scream - XTRMNTR
21. To Kill A Petty Bourgeoisie - The Patron
20. Fly Pan Am - N'Ecoutez Pas
19. Ex Models - Zoo Psychology
18. Autechre - Untilted
17. 10-20 - 10-20
16. Clark - Turning Dragon
15. ES - A Love Cycle
14. Broadcast - Tender Buttons
13. Dorian Concept - When Planets Explode
12. Pantha Du Prince - This Bliss
11. Gang Gang Dance - God's Money
10. Cannibal Ox - The Cold Vein
09. Animal Collective - Merriweather Post Pavilion
08. Black Dice - Load Blown
07. Clark - Totems Flare
06. Sonic Youth - NYC Ghosts & Flowers
05. Boards Of Canada - Geogaddi
04. Liars - Drum's Not Dead
03. Autechre - Confield
02. Animal Collective - Feels
01. Double Leopards - Halve Maen

Keeping It Simple 11.18.2009 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SYRFox
what do you know from this decade musically speaking to make such stupid statements is what i wonder? have you heard anything besides those three bands?


like this wasn't a fact already in the 80s and 90s?


I know a lot of crap was released, hence the reason I liked less new bands this decade than any other. I also posted a list of the other bands I liked.

SYRFox 11.18.2009 04:09 PM

loads of crap were released in the previouses decades too. because there is crap does not mean there is no briliance. the internet precisely allows you to ditch all the crap if you want too and to find the briliance yourself.. just look a bit deeper.

Keeping It Simple 11.18.2009 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SYRFox
what do you know from this decade musically speaking to make such stupid statements is what i wonder? have you heard anything besides those three bands?


like this wasn't a fact already in the 80s and 90s?


I didn't say it wasn't. I said this decade was the worst for it, especially when you consider there were far less music festivals in the 80s and 90s compared to this decade. All the new music festivals that sprung up this decade were clearly callous money-spinners.

Keeping It Simple 11.18.2009 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SYRFox
loads of crap were released in the previouses decades too. because there is crap does not mean there is no briliance. the internet precisely allows you to ditch all the crap if you want too and to find the briliance yourself.. just look a bit deeper.


Naturally, but not as much crap as this decade.

SpectralJulianIsNotDead 11.18.2009 04:19 PM

it will take time to sift through and find the gems

SYRFox 11.18.2009 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keeping It Simple
Naturally, but not as much crap as this decade.

that's wrong
the fact is, with the internet, we are litteraly flooded with new music all the time. i'd say the proportion of good/bad is quite the same as in the previouses decades, it's just that we've got more music. but really, i wouldn't judge a decade on the crap it produces but rather the amount of actual good music. which is huge in the 00s

Genteel Death 11.18.2009 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SYRFox
that's wrong
the fact is, with the internet, we are litteraly flooded with new music all the time. i'd say the proportion of good/bad is quite the same as in the previouses decades, it's just that we've got more music. but really, i wouldn't judge a decade on the crap it produces but rather the amount of actual good music. which is huge in the 00s

why do you bother entertaining him? He misses Oasis.

Keeping It Simple 11.18.2009 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SYRFox
that's wrong
the fact is, with the internet, we are litteraly flooded with new music all the time. i'd say the proportion of good/bad is quite the same as in the previouses decades, it's just that we've got more music. but really, i wouldn't judge a decade on the crap it produces but rather the amount of actual good music. which is huge in the 00s


I'm happy for you that you personally feel it was a good decade for music. I wish I felt the same way. Maybe I didn't get to hear as many new bands as you did. Plus this decade was the most popular so far for record companies to reissue digital remasters of albums from previous decades. I bought heaps of them.

SYRFox 11.18.2009 04:42 PM

Perhaps it's precisely because people like you (I don't blame you in particular) kept on complaining that there were no good music being made (without actually looking for that good music) that pushed labels to release those "digital remasters of albms from pervious decades", that you bought, and so on and so on?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Genteel Death
why do you bother entertaining him? He misses Oasis.

ahah. I just hate it when people assume that music suddenly went all shit because a new decade came. Especially since that decade turned out to be awesome (but we all know that)

Keeping It Simple 11.18.2009 04:51 PM

Also, this decade witnessed a meteoric rise in music snobbery. Thanks in large part to the likes of Pitchfork, and Wire magazine. I love this definition of "music snob":

An especially irritating breed of tool, the music snob is a self described authority on what is or is not "good" music. The genre is irrelavant, as music snobs somehow confuse their subjective opinions with objective concrete facts across all genres of music. The music snob is quick to write off your taste in music, and often spout proudly a large number of "better" unknown and/or less "commercial" bands that if you had as good of taste as they did, you would already know about and love. The music snob can be found at low budget local record stores, probably arguing with a clerk about how no good bands cds are for sale. The music snob often prides themselves on their, again, self described "non-conformist" interests, and everyone else is merely a braindead product of MTV. The music snob fails to realize the definition of the word opinion:

1. a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty.
2. a personal view, attitude, or appraisal., and instead dilludes themselves into thinking that their opinions are more valid than those of anyone whos differ.


SYRFox 11.18.2009 04:56 PM

ahah i knew this would come. You'll notice how Primal Scream (which is also in the NME's top 10), M.I.A., Dizzee Rascal, etc, were in my list above. I also love The Kills and have seen Au Revoir Simone and Jessie Evans live and enjoyed their shows. But to call them the only good bands of the decade is a stupidity.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 11.18.2009 04:57 PM

everytime I read album/band lists on this site I feel like I must work at Spin magazine or something, because I have never heard of ANY of it! These lists might as well be written in Serbian because I haven't the slightest idea who any of them are! I feel so mainstream and yet I haven't even listened to the radio in years! I don't watch mtv.. I don't read music magazines, how is it that you guys are so damned underground? Did I miss Hariet Tubman roll through the SYG?

SYRFox 11.18.2009 05:00 PM

Anyway, I've noticed that people that are nostalgic from the previous decades will use any silly argument instead of just saying "i just can't get into new bands because i only like 70s/80s/90s bands". I've known a Siouxsie fan who hated everything that was knew and tried to prove everywhere that everything was basically a Siouxsie ripoff. Including Santogold. Also, a 80s band that complained that there were no defined musical styles in the 00s - while he probably had complained before on how "music was stuck in labels made by journalists blahblahblah". etc.
I'm tired of this endless debate


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