Dear Science
 

After another night spent dissecting this album with my ears I came to the conclusion that it's one of the best records I've ever listened to in my whole life.
I don't care about possible "haterz" out there, I just wanted to say this.

you dont have an option for "pleasently suprised but its all hype and im not covinced just yet......"

Go for the "black guys" thing, I'll know what you mean.
Btw, my judgment is not affected by hype at all (they're not even that "big" over here).
I just love this record, so full of influences, layers, sounds, voices, melodies, perfect pop. I used to like more their previous lps, but after a full immersion in this one I'm really uber impressed.
Along with Alopecia my fav "pop" record of the year.

I want to love it (I really do), but I can't seem to stop listening to Return to Cookie Mt. long enough for it to take hold.

lol black guys.

try harder flotz, I had the same "problem", but this is even better than cookie mountain imo. I can't explain this very well, but damn, I kinda "fell" into it while listening, a sort of epiphany (Joycian).

This album really disapointed me . I'm a huge fan of Desperate Youth, Blood Thirsty Babes and Return To Cookie Mountain, but I couldn't get into this one. I felt like they're always doing too much on it, like why do they always feel they need to go on with trumpets and violins and all? Minimalism suited them very well. And I felt vocal harmonies were so ordinary, it bored me. I think all tracks include very good elements (the rhythmics are all bloody excellent), but they're wasted by that "too much" feeling. There's only two tracks I can say I find really good: Love Dog and DLZ

This is EXACTLY what I thought till a few days ago.
Somehow something "triggered" in my head while listening and now I love every single sound in it.
By the way, I'm not trying to "convince" you guys about its qualities, as I said in my first post I just wanted to "profess my love" for it on here.

I've found that (for me) the best albums are usually inaccessible at first.

TVOTR is in the running for "my current favorite band", but I still can't get into Dear Science.

although I removed it from myPod, I'll give it another listen tonite when I can (just for nic).

I want to love it SO BAD.

Perhaps that's your "fault". I didn't "want to", I just thought, "oh well, another listen won't hurt", and it happened.

ha ha I talk like a lame ass blogspot guru tonight.

great great stuff

I got all their shit

seen them twice live. GREAT fucking show. amazing show

I'm with SYRFox on this one. Though I still can't quite get into Cookie Mountain. I think it's half awesome half suck. That sort of sums them up as a band for me.

catch a live show if you can. your balls will throb with tvotr goodness

I went to see them last time they were in Pittsburgh but the show was sold out. I didn't realize how popular they were.

I'm not sure where I stand on this band. They have some great moments, but not enough to keep me interested for an entire album, which is probably why I think their best work is Young Liars by a good distance.

the album sdo sound oddly clinical, devoid of the OOOMPH that drives their live show.

their cover of Mr Grieves is cool though

I would tend to agree with you, but how is it my fault for expecting to be blown away with first listen?

if anyone is to blame, surely, it's them for creating pant-soiling masterpieces.

yeah i like TVOTR they are refreshing like running thru a cornfield with no clothes on.

Pescescimmia is back!!! I didn't notice! Welcome back boyo.

I love TVOTR, they had me under their soulful spell ever since I first laid ears on them. I really enjoyed both Desperate Youth and Cookie Mountain. Dear Science doesn't click with me as well, most songs seem very hit or miss. But, there has to be a reason it was titled best album of '08 by both Rolling Stone and SPIN magazine.

The songs from this record are better live. I think this was their Prince pastiche or whatever. RTCM and YL are still my favorites.

I will say that they are fantastic musicians and are capable of doing some really out-there radical shit if they really felt like it (at least for their typical audience). Kyp and Dave are really into people like Albert Ayler, Sun Ra, Milford Graves, Pharaoh Sanders.

dear Gawd: if yr really floating over my house, watching over every quantum tide (like some say You do), please, make me fucking FEEL IT this time.

please sweat lard, don't make Dear Science suffer the same fate as In Rainbows did.

let me hear the same secret frequencies that nicfit does.

as yr humble loving servant, you owe me this much.

I want to get off on more than just one song!!

make it so,

omen.

am listening now. miracle workers take note.

dear science does not HIT like cookie mountain. I like it but a good notch l,ess than their olther, less clinnical stufff

I'm listening to it again

i was really confused at first. i'd not heard them before and was expecting something a bit more spikey or even more challenging. It sounded to me like a cross between Prince and Bloc Party (not so bad, bloc party's 1st album was okish, sort of)
but now yeah, its clicked. It sounds lovely. I'm really really enjoying it

I love Return To Cookie Mountain so much: I love the way it combines African drumming and soulful singing with a grimey, dystopian synth-sound and white noise, but Dear Science is, to repeat what's been said, half-awesome and half-shit.

The first song and a few of the slows ones are the awesome; but then they are doing this post-modern Prince-thing and it just sounds like the Red Hot Chilli Peppers, that weirdly-funkless-funk with shouty rapping - that song which starts 'he's a newspaper man, he's a newspaper man!' is seriously one of the worst songs I've ever heard. And then there's the fucking trumpets.

Love the new one, I think a lot of people just have to get acclimated to the fact that it's a different sort of sound for them, not as dark, more funky. Great stuff.

I wish they had not buried Sitek's drones and grinding squeals so much.

Listened to it again last night. I still haven't "got it."

you may nevre. I still am left somewhat cold by it. the EP and cookie mountainnhit me right away though....

never bothered after being tricked into the snooze fest that was cookie mountain

i didn't bother reading any other posts in this thread but i do have this too say: i absolutely fucking love tv on the radio, when desperate youth, blood thirsty babes came out i was like "fuck yeah! something new a different finally". and then went out and bought everything i could get my hands on by this amazing band. then they released dear science. i do not like this album, i don't hate it mind you, but i don't like it either. there's only 2 song son it i can stand. i hope to god their next album is nothing like it.

Dear Science is probably the closest TV on the Radio have ever come to a pop record. Some of the songs on here could fit in between Maroon 5 and Beyonce and no one would realize how different this band is compared to those two.

I don't imagine they'll be releasing anything like it again, because none of their records have sounded 100% alike.

The weird thing about TV on the Radio is that while they have a unique sound, there isn't really anything identifible about it that makes you realize it's them within 5 seconds of hearing a song, beyond perhaps Tunde Adebimpe's voice.

they suck.

Anyway:
just wanted to thank this ungrateful but so adorably candid teenie-bopper for opening my eyes with her insouciant snark: What can I say? I was blinded by my love for the showbiz life. Ever since Heart Condition, I'd been looking for a project to do with Denzel; and Tom and I have been developing a feature film of Manimal for some time now, so I figured, what the hey? Tomorrow's Variety will reveal my announcement that I am withdrawing from The Matarese Circle (which shall instead be directed by the highly capable Philip Noyce) in favor of a personal project that shall return me to my classical auteurist path:
It's called The Surgery Liturgies:
All characters shall be portrayed by a new form of puppetry developed by the geniuses of KNB.
The puppets in question represent a bold innovation in "FX" technology: while I shall save some of the magic for the inevitable Cinefex article and DVD commentaries, I will reveal that all of the main characters shall be portrayed by exposed stumps of amputees and, in one case, a highly expressive neck goiter--all with faces painted on them (seriously, you'd SWEAR they was peoples!) Oh, and full frontal Michael Ironside. (With a special IMAX sequence of him eating corn on the cob!)
The story is my own blending of the later short stories of JG Ballard, Nabokov's "Pale Fire", and a history of the invention of the I.U.D. that I read on a series of sugar packets.
That said, I must thank the passionate, passionate voices that have risen here in my much-needed defense (kudos to you on your sense of humor and sense of proportion, my friends, kudos to you!)
And to the purveyors of DreadCentral (which is second only to preciousmoments.com in my most visited Bookmarks):
Please don't ever, ever, ever publish this sort of hateful, humorless screed again--It ill serves your legacy of high-minded criticism (perhaps best exemplified by Susan Sontag's much-anthologized meditation on Howling III: The Marsupials). Noone comes to a horror movie site for frivolity, after all.
P.S. Coming in 2012: David Cronenberg's Legally Blonde 3: The Blonde Leading The Blonde (Guess who's a judge now? That's right, and now that she wields the gavel, the legal system won't know what hit it!)
That's right! I AM KING OF THE A-LIST! KIIIIIINNNGGG!

Eventually they'll make a greatest hits and it'll be altogether better than any of their actual records.

yes

Their songs sound all the same to me.

At least on this album.

Even their catchiest tunes of Cookie Mountain were pretty generic.

one good song.

although I cannot determine if it's due to extreme perseverance, demonic mind control or simply my desire to be just like nicfit, I now fucking love this album.

it's in my head all day (if not actually playing in my earbulbs). it might have even become my favorite album of theirs... the only song that I currently can't get into is Dancing Choose (I blame being a rap-elitist).

Lovers Day, Love Dog and DLZ (finally) blow me away.

:o

my prayers have been answered and I only have one person to thank.

I <3 nicfit and I <4 Dear Science

funnily enough. this thread ciomes up and i'm giving it a first listen. have never been too big on these guys and huh this album doesn't do it for me either. Interesting production is all i have to say but the songs .....

aaaaaaaaah!
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

The MIRACLE worked again!

YES!
COZ WE HARR MANY!

welcome to the Legion!

and no need to thank me, as I said before this thing just happens somehow.
LOVE.