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leakyheadboy 07.27.2008 04:42 PM

"A fine line between madness and genious" Your favorite famous basket cases?
 
Hows about it?

The fine man in my signature Mr Eric Satie would have to make it into the list.. When he died his tiny, cupboard sized apartment was filled with hundreds of umbrellas.

I would also like to nominate Kate Bush who is, by all accounts, a fruit loop...

 

[Evidence]

acousticrock87 07.27.2008 04:45 PM

 


Katie Jane Garside

leakyheadboy 07.27.2008 04:47 PM

wow she one crazy lady

Dead-Air 07.27.2008 04:49 PM

A lot of people thought Sun Ra was nuts. But then he successfully did what he wanted in a world that doesn't generally reward such. I have a hard time calling him crazy myself, but he's by far my favorite artist that the bulk of the world sees that way.

MellySingsDoom 07.27.2008 04:52 PM

Kate Bush = yes!
Katie Jane Garside = I saw her in Daisy Chainsaw in the v early 90's, and to be honest, they were rubbish.

acousticrock87 07.27.2008 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MellySingsDoom
Kate Bush = yes!
Katie Jane Garside = I saw her in Daisy Chainsaw in the v early 90's, and to be honest, they were rubbish.

You lie. I won't hear it.

leakyheadboy 07.27.2008 05:06 PM

Mark Mothersbaugh sir your special bus is waiting...
[Exhibit A]
 


[Exhibit B]
 

MellySingsDoom 07.27.2008 05:07 PM

acousticrock87 - Honest Guv, I no lie. They were pop Banshees sans tunes. If they did anything as good as "Happy House"...

*notices acousticrock87 has fingers in ears, going "La La La La Laa!"*

I said, if they did anything as good as "Happy House!"...
*argument ensues*

atsonicpark 07.27.2008 05:09 PM

captain beefheart, of course.

MellySingsDoom 07.27.2008 05:17 PM

Albert Ayler - his last 2 years were horrifying/saddening
Rocky Erickson
Mr Sydney Barrett
Sun Ra - completely bonkers, but so what?
SPK - some of the members were former mental patient inmates - see the "Despair" video for evidence.

leakyheadboy 07.27.2008 05:22 PM

 

too easy...

Glice 07.27.2008 06:41 PM

I'll jump in prior and mention that Daniel Johnston is perhaps mentally troubled but ultimately shit.

Messiaen, Beethoven, Wagner, Scriabin... etc.

leakyheadboy 07.27.2008 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glice
I'll jump in prior and mention that Daniel Johnston is perhaps mentally troubled but ultimately shit.



ah no... im crushed... the guy makes me love again

MellySingsDoom 07.27.2008 06:43 PM

I'd just like to mention that Wagner was a bit weird but ultimately a genius.

demonrail666 07.27.2008 06:43 PM

Would David Lee Roth qualify?

Glice 07.27.2008 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leakyheadboy
ah no... im crushed... the guy makes me love again


That's as may be, but he is utterly shit.

MellySingsDoom 07.27.2008 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demonrail666
Would David Lee Roth qualify?


Yup. See also: Ronnie James Dio.

Glice 07.27.2008 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MellySingsDoom
I'd just like to mention that Wagner was a bit weird but ultimately a genius.


The noise appreciators of this world would do well to realise that without Wagner, there's no critical acceptance of dissonance and therefore no 'noise' as a genre.

I am the Tristan Chord!!!

MellySingsDoom 07.27.2008 06:46 PM

My brother's name is Tristan. Do I call him "Chord" now?

Glice 07.27.2008 06:47 PM

Yes. Do so immediately.

MellySingsDoom 07.27.2008 06:48 PM

"Hello Chord!"
"You what?"
*punches Melly in gob*
"Ow, that hurt!"

demonrail666 07.27.2008 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glice
The noise appreciators of this world would do well to realise that without Wagner, there's no critical acceptance of dissonance and therefore no 'noise' as a genre.

I am the Tristan Chord!!!


This may be true in modern classical/avant-garde circles, but whether it was the difference between The Sperm Wails getting a record deal or not, I'm not that sure.

MellySingsDoom 07.27.2008 06:50 PM

I get the feeling that Steve Colmer was more into dodgy Dutch porn as an "inspiraition"
*consults SY Gossip Board libel lawyers*
*fails*

Glice 07.27.2008 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demonrail666
This may be true in modern classical/avant-garde circles, but whether it was the difference between The Sperm Wails getting a record deal or not, I'm not that sure.


Think of it as 'un chein Andalieu [sp?] vs. Charlie Chaplin if it makes you more comfortable.

StevOK 07.27.2008 07:29 PM

Brian Wilson, of course.

leakyheadboy 07.27.2008 07:32 PM

YES

acousticrock87 07.27.2008 07:34 PM

Brian Wilson isn't that crazy, though. He's just got some problems. I mean his brothers did drown.

leakyheadboy 07.27.2008 07:39 PM

i dunno man the guy built a sand pit in his house to play his grand piano in...

acousticrock87 07.27.2008 07:48 PM

That's not crazy, that's lonely and eccentric.

acousticrock87 07.27.2008 07:49 PM

There is a difference, I just...Can't find it.

leakyheadboy 07.27.2008 07:52 PM

he crrraaaaazzzzyyyyy

atsonicpark 07.27.2008 07:54 PM

jandek?

Nah, he's just genius.

dionysusundone 07.27.2008 07:55 PM

Diamanda Galas.

acousticrock87 07.27.2008 08:06 PM

Nah Jandek is about as sane as you can be, I imagine.

Dead-Air 07.27.2008 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atsonicpark
jandek?

Nah, he's just genius.


Of course we're just two choir boys preaching back and forth to each other on this one, but the funny thing about Jandek is that nobody fucking knows! People have made all kinds of assumptions about his mental health based upon his lyrics and music style, but he's managed perfectly to keep any media based "facts" about his life out of the wrong hands.

A lot of celebrities (Brian Wilson being a perfect example, but then so is Britney Spears) might not have ended up as actual mental patients if they'd successfully maintained their privacy as human beings the way Jandek has.

acousticrock87 07.27.2008 08:09 PM

Right. And I don't think Britney Spears is really crazy either. She's going crazy because of the media, and it's perpetuating itself to no end.

MellySingsDoom 07.27.2008 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dead-Air
Of course we're just two choir boys preaching back and forth to each other on this one, but the funny thing about Jandek is that nobody fucking knows! People have made all kinds of assumptions about his mental health based upon his lyrics and music style, but he's managed perfectly to keep any media based "facts" about his life out of the wrong hands.


A good point. Jandek is most likely a very private individual (like we all are here, I guess, in a way), and certainly not suffering from the debilitation of serious mental issues. I saw Jandek in 2005, and didn't like him - purely because of his music, and nothing else. I'm actually rather suprised that his supposed eccentricity is put down to MH issues.

atsonicpark 07.27.2008 08:18 PM

privates are good.

StevOK 07.27.2008 10:27 PM

Well, Brian Wilson did believe that he was an orange and that people were trying to peel him.

Everyneurotic 07.27.2008 10:35 PM

iggy and alice recall that once they visited brian wilson and that he went to fecth his baby to show them, when he came back, he was carrying the baby by one foot and was tossing him to the couch or something.

that doesn't sound like just eccentrict to me.

daniel johnston, once in a blue moon in the 80's, was totally great, penning fragile songs about barbies and what not, but then he got some better meds and became just a cunt.


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