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sarramkrop 05.14.2008 10:27 AM

Tell us about something that you've learnt/discovered today
 
It could be a band, a technique, a book, a movie etc etc.


 


Butterflies look cool on t-shirts.

!@#$%! 05.14.2008 10:28 AM

dried black mission figs are cheap and good

pbradley 05.14.2008 10:38 AM

writing a final thesis paper on Heidegger's three instances of boredom is fucking boring

I'm glad I don't also have an essay on irony to write, as well.

racehorse 05.14.2008 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pbradley
writing a final thesis paper on Heidegger's three instances of boredom is fucking boring

I'm glad I don't also have an essay on irony to write, as well.


I don't envy you - Heidegger just seems like white noise to me.

Anyway, today I discovered that Aram Saroyan is perhaps the most exciting poet I have ever read.

Rob Instigator 05.14.2008 10:46 AM

I just found out about another worthless stupid re-make from the idiots in Hollywood

Nicolas Cage to star in remake of BAD LIEUTENANT

Werner Herzog is to direct this, but why? why??? nicolas Cage? with his goddamn aweful hairplugs?

 

 

 

 

pbradley 05.14.2008 10:46 AM

Help, help, my Being is being suppressed by relations of the world in which I am incapable of being involved with! Time is slowing down! I am in limbo! I am on the verge of disclosing my Dasein to myself! SOMEBODY GIVE ME AN INTERESTING MAGAZINE ARTICLE TO REEEEAD!

Rob Instigator 05.14.2008 10:49 AM

read this

from the L A Times
Does your brain have a mind of its own?
Why can't we stick to our goals? Blame the sloppy engineering of evolution.

screamingskull 05.14.2008 10:52 AM

I learnt that the art shop i worked in for over a year has closed down, and the company is going into liquidation.

I wonder what they will turn the building into?

Starbucks?

pbradley 05.14.2008 10:52 AM

Too late. Reached profound boredom. Am letting the boredom resonate.

Toilet & Bowels 05.14.2008 11:08 AM

the existence of this magazine

http://www.girlsandcorpses.com/

(it's not porn, FYI)

pokkeherrie 05.14.2008 11:08 AM

I only learned things I want to forget about.

pbradley 05.14.2008 11:15 AM

Ignore the dancing twat.

sarramkrop 05.14.2008 11:16 AM

Token semi-detached, semi-ironic, semi-replies ideally need no apply. I've learnt that there is a pattern that shows you that they generally crop up on the first couple of pages of a thread and by the third one they are toned down by the fragmented chit-chat about stuff that goes on around them.

pokkeherrie 05.14.2008 11:18 AM

oh, excuse me mister.

!@#$%! 05.14.2008 11:20 AM

i meant it about the black mission figs bit-- i love figs, they are a great snack, make you happy, and this variety costs in the u.s. 1/2 of what you'd pay for calimyrna or turkish figs, and they are softer, & as yummy as their pricier counterparts. food is serious business!

floatingslowly 05.14.2008 11:24 AM

light complected people steal laptops too.

WHO KNEW??!

the ikara cult 05.14.2008 11:37 AM

Ive finished my exams
!

nicfit 05.14.2008 11:38 AM

I need new glasses.

jon boy 05.14.2008 11:53 AM

dont ever try, its not worth it.

mangajunky 05.14.2008 12:51 PM

Einstein said that God is childish superstition and Jews were not the chosen people and he declined the opportunity to become the second president of Israel.

http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/slides...66c9a706d1809/

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080513...n_080513162159

Quote:

Originally Posted by AFP
LONDON (AFP) - Albert Einstein described belief in God as "childish superstition" and said Jews were not the chosen people, in a letter to be sold in London this week, an auctioneer said Tuesday.
The father of relativity, whose previously known views on religion have been more ambivalent and fuelled much discussion, made the comments in response to a philosopher in 1954.
As a Jew himself, Einstein said he had a great affinity with Jewish people but said they "have no different quality for me than all other people".
"The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish.
"No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this," he wrote in the letter written on January 3, 1954 to the philosopher Eric Gutkind, cited by The Guardian newspaper.
The German-language letter is being sold Thursday by Bloomsbury Auctions in Mayfair after being in a private collection for more than 50 years, said the auction house's managing director Rupert Powell.
In it, the renowned scientist, who declined an invitation to become Israel's second president, rejected the idea that the Jews are God's chosen people.
"For me the Jewish religion like all others is an incarnation of the most childish superstitions," he said.
"And the Jewish people to whom I gladly belong and with whose mentality I have a deep affinity have no different quality for me than all other people."
And he added: "As far as my experience goes, they are no better than other human groups, although they are protected from the worst cancers by a lack of power. Otherwise I cannot see anything 'chosen' about them."
Previously the great scientist's comments on religion -- such as "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind" -- have been the subject of much debate, used notably to back up arguments in favour of faith.
Powell said the letter being sold this week gave a clear reflection of Einstein's real thoughts on the subject. "He's fairly unequivocal as to what he's saying. There's no beating about the bush," he told AFP.


Danny Himself 05.14.2008 12:55 PM

I'm being impersonated on the internet. =/

!@#$%! 05.14.2008 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mangajunky
Einstein said that God is childish superstition and Jews were not the chosen people and he declined the opportunity to become the second president of Israel.

http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/slides...66c9a706d1809/

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080513...n_080513162159


that's cool about einstein

when atari reads that, he's gonna have what in some places is known as a coniption.

Rob Instigator 05.14.2008 01:07 PM

I have read a lot about Einstein, and his writings and it was extremely obvious to me that his views were such, but goddamnit I have yet to stop hearing endless religious bullshit about how einstein loved god and was devout and all this fucking nonsense.

atari 2600 05.14.2008 03:15 PM

All the letter says is that he rightly thought that scripture is not infallible. That's it. The rest of the story is all the work of jackals hot for a bombshell that rely on spin-doctoring. Einstein always maintained a belief in God and acute skepticism towards organized religion.

Do you really think the media can get something like this right?
Do you really think that Israel turning sixty today has nothing to do with this current news item?

But hey, believe whatever the hell you want to believe; wallow in ignorance for all I care.

Rob Instigator 05.14.2008 03:21 PM

the DIRECT QUOTES from Einstein, the greatest athiest of the 20th century, are sourced from a letter he wrote to a philosopher which is going up for auction after being in a private collection for over 3 decades.

how is that "media spin?"

get a grip man.

fuck all the religious-led nations of the world, and this includes Israel.

atari 2600 05.14.2008 03:25 PM

Oh, I didn't realize that Rob bought the fucking letter. And hey, I didn't realize it had already been sold...since it hasn't yet.

Let's examine one of the "so-called" direct quotes.

In the letter, which is to be auctioned in London on Thursday, the man whose name is today synonymous with genius wrote that "the word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses."

As for the Word of God (this is a bullshit transition by the author of the article), Einstein referred to the Bible as "a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish."

The bolded part obviously should read "The Word OF God."

And the reason why Einstein, a Jew himself, writes that he doesn't believe that the Jews are "God's chosen people" is because he didn't believe the Bible is infallible.

Here are some quotes by Einstein; most of them were stated publicly and recorded:
I want to know God's thoughts; the rest are details."

"God is subtle but He is not malicious."

"I am convinced that He (God) does not play dice."

"Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind."

Rob Instigator 05.14.2008 03:27 PM

those public quotes were said to keep the hassle of his atheism away from him. einstein never wanted to argue nosense.

the word of god is the BIBLE. fuck it all.

atsonicpark 05.14.2008 03:33 PM

I watched buoi omega: beyond the darkness today and I discovered it isn't as gory or as nasty as people say. But it's still amazing.

Trasher02 05.14.2008 03:42 PM

I have funny friends.

 

Rob Instigator 05.14.2008 03:48 PM

Quote: It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it.

- Albert Einstein, letter to an atheist (1954), quoted in Albert Einstein: The Human Side, edited by Helen Dukas & Banesh Hoffman

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 05.14.2008 04:01 PM

i just recently learned that there are less then 200 OB/GYN in Ethiopia, a country of nearly 40 million women and girls! this is around one doctor for every 230,000 Ethiopian women! this also means that if you could organize a handful of these doctors to go to the country even temporarily, it could make a world of difference for thousands Ethiopian women and especially their children.

pbradley 05.14.2008 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
Quote: It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it.

- Albert Einstein, letter to an atheist (1954), quoted in Albert Einstein: The Human Side, edited by Helen Dukas & Banesh Hoffman

Oh right, because a personal God is the only God in which one could admire. :rolleyes:

Rob Instigator 05.14.2008 04:48 PM

tell it to dead einstein

pbradley 05.14.2008 04:52 PM

Einstein always came off as an agnostic with balls, to me. Had a sense and respect for a higher power and wasn't afraid to call it God but still cool off the whole God-Being thing.

Rob Instigator 05.14.2008 04:55 PM

the problem lies when scientists use the terms of religion, because they are convenient, to describe what are most definitely not supernatural beliefs.

the word GOD means any deity, not just the judeochristian one.

the christians capitalize the word God to let you know they believ in just one.

Jah Bul On
the true name of "god"

atari 2600 05.14.2008 04:57 PM

I like that, pbradley.

Rob, Einstein denounced any belief in a "personal God" in as far as it's an ecumenical biblical concept.

Rob Instigator 05.14.2008 05:05 PM

that is the definition of agnostic.

which einstein certainly was.

there have been several widely published "studies" about the religiousity of the USA citizenry. They claim that 80% "believe in god."

in actuality, only around 30% believe in a judeochristian personal god, an omnipotent god involved in all aspects of daily life. just as many or more believ in an impersonal creator god, a god that created the universe, maybe 17 Billion years ago, and then set the rules and let it develop. That belief is antithetical to christianity, judaism, islam, etc. a smaller number of people stated they believed in gods of other types (hindu, wicca, deists, pantheists, etc.) which are most definitely antithetical to the beliefs of the specific christians that are pushing this "information" as proof that the USA is a purely god-fearing nation.



the single fastest growing group in the USA, as in most of western culture, is the agnostic/athiest.

Thank Mario for that.

fugazifan 05.14.2008 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pbradley

thats almost excactly how i dance, only i do it right

█████████ 05.14.2008 05:37 PM

well rob, atheism is just as nonsense as theism.

they are both empirically wrong, there's no proof of existence or inexistence of gods.



also,
atheistic extremism is just as bad and idiotic as theistic extremism.


i hope you learn at least that last part.

fugazifan 05.14.2008 05:39 PM

einstein still donated all of his work to hebrew niversity (at least what i heard)


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