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This Is Not Here 03.22.2008 11:33 AM

British 'noise-rock' bands which aren't Shoegaze or Jesus and Mary Chain... anyone?
 
Okay, so there seems to be loads of American noise-rock bands out there, and its all fuckingg great, but I'm really interested in hearing some British feedback now, and Shoegaze, as much as I love it, does get a little wearing sometimes. So, british noise-rock which isn't Shoegaze?

Suggestions please

Mrs. Butcher 03.22.2008 12:02 PM

Whitehouse
Skullflower

Not noise, but PiL are definetly worth checking out if you're into experimental music at all.

sarramkrop 03.22.2008 12:07 PM

Ashtray Navigations
Birds Of Delay
Aufgehoben
The Wolfhounds

Not sure if I'd call those bands noise rock. Ashtray Navigations are more a psychedelic band to me than anything.

jimbrim 03.22.2008 12:11 PM

fuck buttons

This Is Not Here 03.22.2008 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mrs. Butcher

Not noise, but PiL are definetly worth checking out if you're into experimental music at all.


Thanks for the suggestions, i will check them out. PiL I've been into for a while, at least early PiL with Jah Wobble.

batreleaser 03.22.2008 12:53 PM

PRE

whitehouse and skullflower are definitley where you wanna start though.

pil is a pretty cool choice too, they definitley made use of avant noise at times.

batreleaser 03.22.2008 12:54 PM

and since when are the stooges fucking british?

uhler 03.22.2008 12:54 PM

crass can easily fall into the catagory of noise rock.

sarramkrop 03.22.2008 12:55 PM

How could PIL make use of avant-noise sounds when I doubt the term even existed at the time, I wonder? PIL isn't noise-rock but a great band nonetheless.

This Is Not Here 03.22.2008 01:05 PM

ha ha, i really don't know that much about them, i love 'we will fall' the rest is neither here nor there. i ought to delete that little slip up really.

Mrs. Butcher 03.22.2008 01:56 PM

Flowers of Romance is the most experimental of their work, almost completely led by percussion.

GravitySlips 03.22.2008 01:56 PM

Giddy Motors

batreleaser 03.22.2008 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarramkrop
How could PIL make use of avant-noise sounds when I doubt the term even existed at the time, I wonder? PIL isn't noise-rock but a great band nonetheless.



so the velvets never made use of "avant noise" sounds, and nihilist spasm band wasnt a noise band, right? jsut because a term didnt exist didnt mean the sound didnt exist. no pil wasnt noise rock but they most definitley had experimental tendencies, and yes they were brilliant.

gualbert 03.22.2008 02:52 PM

There's a cool band called Rent Boy Assassin.
They sound like the Fall , but more thrashy and nervous ( anyway they have released just one split 7' as far as I know , you'll never find it )

Headbutt could also be labeled noise-rock , with a strong industrial touch , though.

Mrs. Butcher 03.22.2008 02:55 PM

I guess you could call McLusky noise-rock.

batreleaser 03.22.2008 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mrs. Butcher
I guess you could call McLusky noise-rock.



definitley

sarramkrop 03.22.2008 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by batreleaser
so the velvets never made use of "avant noise" sounds, and nihilist spasm band wasnt a noise band, right? jsut because a term didnt exist didnt mean the sound didnt exist. no pil wasnt noise rock but they most definitley had experimental tendencies, and yes they were brilliant.


I have no idea of what you're trying to say there, sorry. I think that you also pretty much forget that The Velvet Underground certainly didn't come from avant noise at all. Unless, of course, this is the proverbial dilemma that crops up on this forum when a certain degree of ear-sharpness is required to tell what noise is.

sarramkrop 03.22.2008 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mrs. Butcher
I guess you could call McLusky noise-rock.


Computer says no.

Phlegmscope 03.22.2008 05:07 PM

Part Chimp

Guest Informant 03.22.2008 05:44 PM

Action Beat

http://www.myspace.com/actionbeat

batreleaser 03.22.2008 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarramkrop
I have no idea of what you're trying to say there, sorry. I think that you also pretty much forget that The Velvet Underground certainly didn't come from avant noise at all. Unless, of course, this is the proverbial dilemma that crops up on this forum when a certain degree of ear-sharpness is required to tell what noise is.



avant garde and noise is not a new phenomenon, and know the velvets didnt come from avant noise, but they sure as hell used it, (heroin, sister ray, etc..), and nihilist spasm band, the worlds first real noise band came out in the 1960s. cage and philip class and morricone and reich are all avant garde, so i dont know what youre trying to say or prove, sorry. all this over agreeing with you that pil is awesome and noisy at times, fuck.

Toilet & Bowels 03.22.2008 06:40 PM

splintered
sunroof!
hototogisu
the a band
flower corsano duo
the heads


noisey bands from britain who don't strictly fall in to the category of noise rock but are probably enjoyable to people of such inclinations:
Moss
Vibracathedral Orchestra
Discharge
Rudimentary Peni
The Shadow Ring
Add N to X (not the last couple of albums though)
Emit
Taint
Benighted Leams
electric wizard

toxic johnny 03.22.2008 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarramkrop
Computer says no.

Ha ha... can't rep you etc, etc.
But I would if I could.

Oh and yeah British noise... what T+B said give or take a few.

dazedcola 03.22.2008 07:01 PM

Fudge Tunnel, kinda like a uk big black

Toilet & Bowels 03.22.2008 07:08 PM

Velvet Velvet Spice Rack

batreleaser 03.22.2008 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels
splintered
sunroof!
hototogisu
the a band
flower corsano duo
the heads


noisey bands from britain who don't strictly fall in to the category of noise rock but are probably enjoyable to people of such inclinations:
Moss
Vibracathedral Orchestra
Discharge
Rudimentary Peni
The Shadow Ring
Add N to X (not the last couple of albums though)
Emit
Taint
Benighted Leams
electric wizard



good shit there. shadow ring was so brilliant and so underrated.

Phlegmscope 03.22.2008 08:04 PM

Fudge Tunnel
Godflesh
Penthouse (aka 50tons of black terror)
Flying Saucer Attack and th faith healers at their noisiest could fit somewhere between shoegaze and noise-rock.

sarramkrop 03.23.2008 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by batreleaser
avant garde and noise is not a new phenomenon, and know the velvets didnt come from avant noise, but they sure as hell used it, (heroin, sister ray, etc..), and nihilist spasm band, the worlds first real noise band came out in the 1960s. cage and philip class and morricone and reich are all avant garde, so i dont know what youre trying to say or prove, sorry. all this over agreeing with you that pil is awesome and noisy at times, fuck.


I really can't be arsed with this. I'll only say that if you consider Morricone to be avantgarde you need to have your head checked.

Toilet & Bowels 03.23.2008 07:44 AM

Two things:

What do Morricone, Philip Glass & Steve Reich have to do with british noise-rock?

Please don't use the words "Avant Rock", "Avant Noise", or the term "Avant Garde" in relation to rock music, ever again.

sarramkrop 03.23.2008 07:46 AM

My thoughts, exactly.

This Is Not Here 03.23.2008 07:56 AM

Yeah, everytime I do actually want you guys to name-drop you get distracted by shiney objects. When I next return to this thread I expect to have the next few years' music purchases on a plate people! Perform!!!

But on a serious note, thanks for the suggestions so far, I've had a look at all of them, probably PRE, Giddy Motors, Part Chimp and Fuck Buttons are closer to what I'd like to hear. Emphasis on punky noise-rock, please don't direct me to the realm of the sheer noise. If you guys have got any suggestions of U.S. bands now, much appreciated...

This Is Not Here 03.23.2008 07:59 AM

oh and Sarramkrop i put some more images up on Post Yr Art Or Die, would like your opinion...

sarramkrop 03.23.2008 08:20 AM

Done. Part Chimp are that band on the Mogwai record label, aren't they? I think that I have a cd of theirs somewhere.

sarramkrop 03.23.2008 08:34 AM

Is it really hard to restrain yourself from calling your band a noise project? It sounds kind of wrong. That's what you get when you start to think that all music is math. IT.IS.NOT. W.H.O.O. H.O.O.!!

dionysusundone 03.23.2008 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gualbert
Headbutt could also be labeled noise-rock , with a strong industrial touch , though.


That sounds promising, will have to check them out.

Toilet & Bowels 03.23.2008 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarramkrop
Done. Part Chimp are that band on the Mogwai record label, aren't they? I think that I have a cd of theirs somewhere.


Part Chimp are made up of former members of Ligament, who were a better band, in my opinion.

Also, there's a band called Bob Tilton who did noisey punky stuff.

sarramkrop 03.23.2008 09:44 AM

I didn't know that, I like Ligament a lot. I have a Bob Tilton track on one of the Sonic Mook Experiment compilations, I will give it another listen.

sarramkrop 03.23.2008 09:46 AM

Telstar Ponies

batreleaser 03.23.2008 11:10 AM

nice how you mention only one of the artists ive mentioned

pokkeherrie 03.23.2008 12:29 PM

Hototogisu and Flower/Corsano are just as British as they are American, although they play live mostly in the UK I suppose.


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