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phoenix 08.14.2007 04:02 AM

Andy Goldsworthy.
 
He's the kind of artist you'd imagine mother nature might be, if she were personified, human form. Shy and wonderful and magical. He is amazing and its difficult to even capture his work in photos. If you have the chance to see any in person, do it. And if not, you should watch his dvd or read some of his books.

His work is sculptural and exists momentarily in nature, or build from natural objects in a space which might have commissioned it. The most beautiful imho are his ice and snow works, and sculptures done in moving rivers.

some of his 'cones'

 


 


 


 



some ice based works..

 


 



and working with rivers and water...

 


 

floatingslowly 08.14.2007 07:53 AM

wow that ice spiral is crazy looking!

I like them all actually.

is he from Oz?

Savage Clone 08.14.2007 08:18 AM

He is indeed a genius, and has been discussed here more than once.
I think cuetzpalin uses one of his pieces as her avatar.

Pookie 08.14.2007 08:35 AM

He's from England.

He is to sculpture what Jack Vettriano is to painting.

floatingslowly 08.14.2007 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Pookie
He's from England.


that explains the lack of (fucking) platypuses.

cuetzpalin 08.14.2007 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Savage Clone
I think cuetzpalin uses one of his pieces as her avatar.


you're right, I use this..
 


more of his work..
 


 


 

cuetzpalin 08.14.2007 08:59 AM

 


 

screamingskull 08.14.2007 09:07 AM

i had to study him in my first year of college, he's a pretty nice guy.

floatingslowly 08.14.2007 09:10 AM

I've always liked your avatar cuetz, but had no idea what it was.

wow....this guy is fucking genius.

cuetzpalin 08.14.2007 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by floatingslowly
I've always liked your avatar cuetz, but had no idea what it was.

wow....this guy is fucking genius.



:)

gsus i'm sooooo tired today:(

atari 2600 08.14.2007 09:36 AM

used this as an avatar for a little while awhile back



 

mentioned Goldsworthy a bunch of times at the old board as perhaps the most significant living artist...was met with indifference for the most part...wrote review of rivers & tides when at va film festival

figured some would have been around enough to mention me
can only remember that cuetzpalin & Pauly expressed a mutual interest

so i'm just going through my photobucket album here...












 



this was a sig








 

Pookie 08.14.2007 09:37 AM

Twig sculptures, leaves stuck to rocks,
ARE YOU ALL FUCKING MAD!

cuetzpalin 08.14.2007 09:42 AM

hahahaa

floatingslowly 08.14.2007 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Pookie
Twig sculptures, leaves stuck to rocks,


that's exactly what makes it genius!

I like the impermanence of it as well.

(unlike the works of Lana Zugzug)
 

Pookie 08.14.2007 09:59 AM

Oh i see, we're being ironic. I didn't get it.

atari 2600 08.14.2007 10:20 AM

finding the completed version of this with the lettering and everything like the sister cover has proven difficult, so below is just the raw material for that picture (think I lost it)



 

atari 2600 08.14.2007 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by floatingslowly
wow that ice spiral is crazy looking!

I like them all actually.

is he from Oz?


He's British living in Scotland.
The Rivers & Tides documentary shows the process of Goldsworthy making a piece like that spiral; it's probably the very same one.

Pookie 08.14.2007 10:29 AM

Here's a rare photo of him constructing one of his earliest works:


 

sarramkrop 08.14.2007 10:31 AM

He makes interesting and futuristic Ikea objects for sure. I've always liked his use of pattern, he's really good at that. Pookie is a little harsh when he compares him to Jack Vettriano. Vettriano's work is for people who only want prints on the walls of their living rooms.

Pookie 08.14.2007 10:40 AM

I think the Vettriano comparison is fair. Though I think it's probably more The Pier than Ikea.

total-trash 08.14.2007 10:48 AM

i watched his dvd in art class last year. this kid in my class tried to challenge him by saying it wasn't real art. my teacher destroyed him.

cuetzpalin 08.14.2007 11:15 AM

and what is real art actually..?

total-trash 08.14.2007 11:19 AM

exactly

cuetzpalin 08.14.2007 11:23 AM

anyways.. i appreciate goldsworthy as one of the biggest artists. his work is kinda zen, isn't it? :)

demonrail666 08.14.2007 11:24 AM

I don't like individual Goldsworthy pieces as much as i do overall environments that feature his stuff as part of the landscape. Same with Richard Serra.

Tokolosh 08.14.2007 12:47 PM

Andy Goldsworthy reminds me of Nils-Udo. A Bavarian artist with similar work.

 

 

 

 

Tokolosh 08.14.2007 12:53 PM

 

 

 


http://greenmuseum.org/content/artis...ist_id-36.html

phoenix 08.14.2007 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atari 2600
He's British living in Scotland.
The Rivers & Tides documentary shows the process of Goldsworthy making a piece like that spiral; it's probably the very same one.

its a different piece, but yeh.

phoenix 08.14.2007 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarramkrop
He makes interesting and futuristic Ikea objects for sure. I've always liked his use of pattern, he's really good at that. Pookie is a little harsh when he compares him to Jack Vettriano. Vettriano's work is for people who only want prints on the walls of their living rooms.



Quote:

Originally Posted by Pookie
I think the Vettriano comparison is fair. Though I think it's probably more The Pier than Ikea.


okay vettriano's work is completely stunning. and is definately not just for people who just want prints on their walls. There is a massive difference between a close up leaf you can buy at ikea and the complete and utter resplendance shown in some of vettriano's work.

and imho they (goldsworthy and vettriano) are nothing alike.

phoenix 08.14.2007 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Tokolosh
Andy Goldsworthy reminds me of Nils-Udo. A Bavarian artist with similar work.

 

 

 

 


I dont like the use of human forms... The thing(well one of) that appeals to me about goldsworthy's work is that it is completely and utterly timeless. It might have been created by someone or something, or it could have just occured. It is that untouched and pure, mathematical the way nature exists yet somehow almost unbelieveable in its beauty, that it could not be accidental.

a lot of this work seems far more 'cut in' to nature. where as to me, goldsworthy seems to work with the flow, and his works are never permanent. There is something not quite right about a red human form sitting amoungst the green. Or a square cut away from a trees roots. The images seem painful.

phoenix 08.14.2007 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Pookie
Here's a rare photo of him constructing one of his earliest works:


 


lols/.

phoenix 08.14.2007 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by floatingslowly

wow....this guy is fucking genius.


I thought you might like him too!

Tokolosh 08.15.2007 02:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phoenix
I dont like the use of human forms... The thing(well one of) that appeals to me about goldsworthy's work is that it is completely and utterly timeless. It might have been created by someone or something, or it could have just occured. It is that untouched and pure, mathematical the way nature exists yet somehow almost unbelieveable in its beauty, that it could not be accidental.

a lot of this work seems far more 'cut in' to nature. where as to me, goldsworthy seems to work with the flow, and his works are never permanent. There is something not quite right about a red human form sitting amoungst the green. Or a square cut away from a trees roots. The images seem painful.


I'm not to keen with Nils-Udo's use of human forms in his work. It makes the viewer focus on the figure and forget the surroundings. You could say that Goldsworthy's work is sort of timeless in it's simplicity and pureness, but I don't think it presents itself as something that just occured. There's always a reminder of human intervention. Also, some of his work is definitely permanent. If left untouched, those stone walls and oval shapes can last for ages.

Cantankerous 08.15.2007 02:44 AM

fucking cool.
the jack vettriano comparison is just unfair. he is an untalented asshole.

phoenix 08.15.2007 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Tokolosh
Also, some of his work is definitely permanent. If left untouched, those stone walls and oval shapes can last for ages.


ages /= permanent

phoenix 08.15.2007 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Cantankerous
he is an untalented asshole.


who handles light in a way many painters can not.

SynthethicalY 08.15.2007 07:51 AM

I actually like Nils-Udo even if he is using human forms.

Tokolosh 08.15.2007 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by phoenix
ages /= permanent


Do you mean / as "doesn't equal"?
If so, it's permanent in the sense that it doesn't disappear after the first 500 rainfalls.

phoenix 08.15.2007 08:03 AM

not equal to. yes I do. I searched through my character map and couldnt find the real one. I guessed you'd understand.

it isnt cared for though. Once he creates, he leaves it there.. to be destroyed or exist or whatever shall happen. That is what I mean. Many artists don't do that. That to me therefore is impermanent.

Tokolosh 08.15.2007 08:06 AM

Fair enough.
I'm outta here. Got loads of work to do before I leave the office at five. Bye.


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