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GravitySlips 03.22.2007 09:12 AM

Any black metal aficionados here?
 
I've been listening to Velvet Cacoon, and I really like it much more than I expected. They're the only black metal band I know though, literally the ONLY one (they were rec'd to me by a friend). Anyway, I've decided I wanna try and get into this genre of music, so:

what are some good albums for a black metal beginner? (something that won't discourage me, so nothing TOO extreme)

and also, what albums are regarded seminal / most important / best within the genre?

thanks.

Savage Clone 03.22.2007 09:16 AM

Burzum - Filosofem and Hvis Lyset Tar Oss
Mayhem - De Mysteriis Dom Satanas
Graveland - Thousand Swords
Nokturnal Mortum - Goat Horns
Xasthur - Nocturnal Poisoning

For some slower black metal, I highly recommend Leviathan's "The Tenth SubLevel Of Suicide.

"Filosofem" is fairly easy to digest for a new listener, and is also one of my favorite black metal LPs ever.

sarramkrop 03.22.2007 09:20 AM

Talking of the 'good' Leviathan, has anyone got any stuff by them? I've tried hunting down stuff in shops to no avail.

atsonicpark 03.22.2007 09:21 AM

check out graves at sea

Everyneurotic 03.22.2007 09:36 AM

darkthrone - a blaze in the northern sky or under a funeral moon are basic; once you have a couple bm records, GET their transilvanian hunger, it's imperative.

what else?

beherit - the oath of black blood is basic too, hmmmm, xasthur is pretty sweet too, especially subliminal genocide. ohh yes, and abruptum! (you might want to check out abruptum later.)

if you choose to explore a more melodic side of bm, get:

emperor - in the nightside eclipse
satyricon - dark medieval times
sigh - scorn defeat
dodheimsgard - kronet til konge
arcturus - sideshow symphonies

a band that's melodic in a different way (less atmospheric and more guitar driven) is dissection, get storm of the light's bane.

also recommendable are enslaved who are classified as viking metal but it's an offshoot and part of the original wave of bm; certainly, their first albums like frost are very in the vein of bm.

atsonicpark 03.22.2007 09:45 AM

yes yes, dodheimsgard .. insane.

Everyneurotic 03.22.2007 09:47 AM

i also forgot gorgoroth...pretty much anything; the last one, ad majorem sathanas gloriam, is fairly accesible but with that bm atmosphere and it's angry as fuck.

atsonicpark 03.22.2007 09:51 AM

yes yes, gorgoroth - pentagram is i think considered a classic of the genre.

Everyneurotic 03.22.2007 09:54 AM

yeah, like the essential album.

adam: i might have what you asked me for by today, is that ok?

atsonicpark 03.22.2007 10:20 AM

hey no problem man, just the fact that you're willing to help grants you infinite time to finish it. thank you!

demonrail666 03.22.2007 11:04 AM

Different styles but I consider these the BM 'classics':

Burzum - Hvis Lyset Tar Oss
Bathory - Hammerheart
Emperor - In the Nightside Eclipse
Darkthrone - A Blaze in the Northern Sky
Immortal - Pure Holocaust
In the Woods - Omnio
Mayhem - De Mysteriis Domsathan

Most later BM can ultimately be boiled down to one of these. As such this is where I'd start, see who you like and check out those influenced by them.

Toilet & Bowels 03.22.2007 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarramkrop
Talking of the 'good' Leviathan, has anyone got any stuff by them? I've tried hunting down stuff in shops to no avail.



try sister ray or hmv (the bigger one) on oxford street. i've seen the splits w/sapthuran and xasthur in the former and howl mockery at the cross at the latter. or try ordering from supernal or aurora borealis.

be careful not to get this one though as it's a different band
 

Toilet & Bowels 03.22.2007 11:50 AM

anyway, if you like velvet cacoon i'd recommend marblebog, striborg, benighted leams, furze, urfaust, emit, wold, spektr, bludt aus nord, wolok if you are looking for the stranger side of black metal

also things like leviathan, lurker of chalice, deathspell omega, twilight, nactmystium, urgehal, krieg, haemoth, draugar, anaal nathrakh, 1349, enslaved if you're looking for the more conventional but still great side of current black metal


as far as the classics go

what everyone else said, plus these:

ildjarn - forest poetry
mayhem - de mystriis dom sathanas
immortal - battles in the north
blasphemy - fallen angel of doom

also, it's worth having a browse through the black metal section at aquariusrecords.org as they stock lots of great stuff and have lots of sound samples you can listen to

Darkthrone85 03.22.2007 12:47 PM

I Fucking Love Black Metal!!!!

Phlegmscope 03.22.2007 06:20 PM

I'm listening to Beherit's album The Oath of Black Blood which I borrowed the other day from the local library.
They were one of the first black metal bands to emerge from finland, extremely lo-fi, thrashy scum -era napalm death esque stuff, but with production that's way more horrendous. It has some great songs though. Witchcraft!
http://www.sadomator.com/beherit/

Onani Nic 03.22.2007 06:56 PM

I discovered black metal about a year ago. I think most people who get into black metal who aren't typical metal fans are more drawn to the fucked-up and lo-fi type stuff.

Recommendations,
Furze- Necromanzee Cognent.
Slow, almost doomy black metal. Weird reverb vocals and riffs that kind of remind me of pentagram or sabbath.

Wold- Screech Owl.
Really fucked-up black metal. Reminds me of some noise/power electronics stuff due to the use of loops in the songs.

Akitsa/Prurient Split.
Haven't been any other Akitsa stuff so their could be better albums of theirs. Slow to Mid-paced BM with yelled vocals. No layering of guitars of any fancy shit, has a raw punk feel to it.

Spektr- No Longer Human Senses
French BM with an industrial influences.

Darkthrone- Transilvanian Hunger
The first black metal album I ever bought.

Burzum- Filosofem
A must have, my girlfriend loves this album and she is in no way a black metal fan (or national socialist)

demonrail666 03.22.2007 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GravitySlips
thanks a lot lot for the replys, guys. i've downloaded the Xasthur album Savage Clone mentioned, and i'm gonna listen to it soon.

and, i'm currently downloading some Dodheimsgard :)


Xasthur are probably the best thing to happen to BM since its initial burst of energy, And are surely the best 'band' in the scene outside of Scandinavia.

Everyneurotic 03.22.2007 08:05 PM

fuck!!!! i can't believe i forgot to mention spektr!!!!! that's what i've been listening to lately. get the near death experience, some parts with the samples and stuff, it's almost like good wolf eyes in between the bm bursts.

also secht, they have released just one album, but it's amazing. half of the norwegian bm scene guest on it, though.

golden child 03.22.2007 09:14 PM

BONE OWL

Toilet & Bowels 03.23.2007 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by golden child
BONE OWL


Owl?

jon boy 03.23.2007 06:28 AM

is there a differnece between doom metal and black metal? i guess one might involve burning down churches?

Everyneurotic 03.23.2007 11:43 AM

one more thing, i recommend you check out the forefathers of the genre, sometimes known as first wave of black metal, the basics are:

venom - welcome to hell, black metal and at war with satan (those three are mandatory)

bathory - the first three (hammerheart was mentioned, but that's more symphonic, these are raw, necro produced, blastbeat outfitted, bleak sounding)

celtic frost - the first three (morbid tales, to mega therion, into the pandemonium)


if you research, you'll also find mentions of german thrash as seminal cornerstones of the bm sound, even though these are thrash metal with bleaker, more brutal sounds; these are kreator, sodom and destruction, the big three.

also seminal but more obscure are sarcofago and tormentor.

Toilet & Bowels 03.23.2007 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jon boy
is there a differnece between doom metal and black metal? i guess one might involve burning down churches?



yes, doom is slower and heavier, stuff like cathedral, moss, sleep, nadja, earth, obsessed, generally speaking doom is an expansion on black sabbath's stuff.
generally speaking black metal is faster, not as sonically heavy, more frequently it has buzzy guitar sounds, lyrical themes tend to focus around satanism/paganism, war, nature, suffering. not much of an easily detecable sabbath sound, most black metal sounds more like punk than what people would typically associated with metal, vocals tend to be shrieked.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_metal_genres

golden child 03.24.2007 12:24 PM

bone awl.... trying to be funny... no actually not, im dumb and just typed that
great band though...

Toilet & Bowels 02.04.2009 07:37 PM

bump

deflinus 02.04.2009 07:41 PM

whats the big deal with black dudes playing metal?

atsonicpark 02.04.2009 07:49 PM

This board's full of kidders.

batreleaser 02.04.2009 10:28 PM

bone awl, yeah theyre amazing. i still love prurient's band ash pool, prurient has a fucking killer howl.

im so sick of talking about black metal on here when there's only like 15 or so bands ever mentioned. as killer as mayhem is and all.

Death & the Maiden 02.05.2009 02:51 AM

Ved Buens Ende - Written in Waters
It's avant-garde black metal with clean guitars and crooning vocals.

Dr. Eugene Felikson 06.24.2011 03:25 AM

My buddy and I have been listening to lots of Beherit and Haemoth non-stop lately. I've been pushing Xasthur on him too, but that's old hat for me.

Anyway, I absolutely love the production on these albums. Especially Haemoth's stuff - so raw and tinny, however Beherit is obviously the technically superior group between the two.

greedrex 06.24.2011 06:39 AM

yes but only black black metal
 

The Watcher 06.24.2011 06:58 AM

Oh my god you posted a picture of Black Death that is so funny ha ha ha!!!! Post a picture of Living Color next and really get this thread cookin'.......

greedrex 06.24.2011 02:05 PM

^^ get lost shit face. You just don't get it?
Who are you btw (à la Genteel)?

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