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demonrail666 07.14.2010 07:52 PM

Movies Hollywood Should Be Banned From Ever Trying to Remake.
 
They've already trodden on what many people would consider hallowed ground by remaking The Wicker Man so what films would you put on a Hollywood blacklist entitled 'under no circumstances should anyone try and remake this film'?

Genteel Death 07.14.2010 07:58 PM

I'd rather watch yotube remakes myself.

!@#$%! 07.14.2010 08:02 PM

hollywood should nuke itself (that's not a movie, that's my recommendation)

i can't think of anything that would benefit from a "remake". ok except for the fly-- cronenberg's version was way better than the original. so let's say, things that would significantly benefit from improved special effects would be fair game. and only when done by cronenberg. otherwise just make a fresh print of the old thing & put it back in circulation.

more repertory movie houses and less shitty multiplexes. and death to jerry bruckheimer.

atsonicpark 07.14.2010 08:05 PM

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Derek 07.14.2010 08:09 PM

Cronenberg movies... I've heard talks of a Shivers remake, a Brood remake, a Videodrome remake.... UGH.

Dr. Eugene Felikson 07.14.2010 08:10 PM

I can't believe someone thought it would be a good idea to remake Suspiria. What a lost cause.

!@#$%! 07.14.2010 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Derek
Cronenberg movies... I've heard talks of a Shivers remake, a Brood remake, a Videodrome remake.... UGH.



what the fuck- nooo! he's allowed to make the remakes. nobody else.

you know the fly is a remake, right? the first one was creepy but ultimately ridiculous. i mean it gives you the willies but you still chuckle at the bad effects.

 

jon boy 07.14.2010 08:25 PM

anything to do with john cassavetes should be left the fuck alone. i can think of so many films but also a hell of a lot that should be re-made to make them anything like enjoyable.

Genteel Death 07.14.2010 08:33 PM

John Carpenter. You can't repeat genius.

Skuj 07.14.2010 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demonrail666
They've already trodden on what many people would consider hallowed ground by remaking The Wicker Man so what films would you put on a Hollywood blacklist entitled 'under no circumstances should anyone try and remake this film'?


Remember when Nic Cage was good? Sigh.....

Anyway......they should never try and remake anything by Godard, Fellini, or Bergman, for starters. :D

automatic bzooty 07.14.2010 09:52 PM

most, if not all, movies.

terminal pharmacy 07.14.2010 10:04 PM

they should not remake 100% of movies

Count Mecha 07.14.2010 11:25 PM

Taxi Driver and uh...Night of the Hunter.

atsonicpark 07.15.2010 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Skuj
Remember when Nic Cage was good? Sigh.....


Bad Lieutenant reboot was recent and he was great in that. Kick-ASs was recent and he was good in that. He was good in the Bangkok Dangerous remake. He RULED in Weather Man and Matchstick Men. He's made a few shit films, but who hasn't?...

knox 07.15.2010 01:53 AM

why should people remake films to begin with?

jon boy 07.15.2010 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by knox
why should people remake films to begin with?


$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

scripts already done, fanbase already in place to see it, hardly ever done for artistic merits.

Dr. Eugene Felikson 07.15.2010 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark
Bad Lieutenant reboot was recent and he was great in that. Kick-ASs was recent and he was good in that. He was good in the Bangkok Dangerous remake. He RULED in Weather Man and Matchstick Men. He's made a few shit films, but who hasn't?...



Yes, Nic Cage still has it where it counts. I honestly like where his career has headed. He still surprises me with the wild roles he chooses, that's definitely worth something.

demonrail666 07.15.2010 02:32 AM

Apocalypse Now.

Bring in Bruckheimer to produce, up the 60s retro-rock soundtrack, cast Will Smith in the Willard role and get Jack Black to do the Dennis Hopper bit, while Daniel Day Lewis does his best to transform Bill the Butcher into Colonel Kurtz. You just know Hollywood's atleast thinking about it.

atsonicpark 07.15.2010 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Eugene Felikson
Yes, Nic Cage still has it where it counts. I honestly like where his career has headed. He still surprises me with the wild roles he chooses, that's definitely worth something.


Yeah, Cage is one of the best actors we've got, up there with Walken, Oldman, DeNiro, and Keitel. All those men have seen better days, but hell, the mainstream movie industry has been in decline since the late 70's..

Derek 07.15.2010 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by knox
why should people remake films to begin with?

 


 


 

atsonicpark 07.15.2010 06:43 AM

I changed my answer. I think all movies should be remade. And then they should remake the remakes, too. I mean, why not? The original film will still exist.

batreleaser 07.15.2010 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark
I changed my answer. I think all movies should be remade. And then they should remake the remakes, too. I mean, why not? The original film will still exist.


I like that notion.

Lars Von Trier was rumored to have challenged Scorsese to re-make "Taxi Driver" as a collab between the two directors. My initial reaction was, "Fuck that!", but after pondering, it would actually have potential to be really fucking cool. Jeremy Renner as Travis Bickle, I could totally see that working. And damn, maybe working with Lars would get Scorsese to start making fucked up movies again.

atsonicpark 07.15.2010 12:13 PM

That'd be such a bizarre mix. I'd dig it!

And yeah, Scorsese... Shutter Island... Shitter Shitland.. horrible film.

Rob Instigator 07.15.2010 01:06 PM

fuck that. remakes sux, and remakes of good to great films SUX indubitably.

I think remakes should only be made if the original failed.

anyon remaking soemthing like Taxi Driver is just plain stupid or greedy

Rob Instigator 07.15.2010 01:09 PM

really though, I have spent the past minutes trying to think of a movie, ANY Movie, that was a remake that was as good or better than the original.

TheMadcapLaughs 07.15.2010 01:12 PM

what was up with the gus van zant shot by shot recreation of pscyho? seriously, what a waste of fucking everything

Dr. Eugene Felikson 07.15.2010 01:15 PM

^ Vince Vaughn was a killer choice to play Norman Bates though!

Rob Instigator 07.15.2010 01:47 PM

Let's see

Psycho (hitchcock) > Psycho (Van Sant)

La Femme Nikita > Point of No Return

Halloween (old) > Halloween (new)

Seven Samurai > Magnificent Seven

Bad News Bears (Matthau) > Bad News Bears (Billy Bob)

Clash of The Titans (stop motion) > Clash of the Titans (CGI)

I am not sayinga remake cannot be as good as the original, but that is rare. I am sure there are remakes better than the original but probably because the "original" was made in the 30's or 40's.

chicka 07.15.2010 02:12 PM

I'm surprised they haven't tried to remake Rocky yet, or Dirty Harry. They already tried to remake the Godfather I & II by making III. Million Dollar Baby is off limits and Casablanca

viewtiful alan redux 07.15.2010 02:23 PM

Star Wars... oh wait

Satan 07.15.2010 02:36 PM

how about FUCKING ALL OF THEM

i would slit my fucking wrists if they remade dirty harry

Rob Instigator 07.15.2010 02:38 PM

I think it is funny that no one has ever remade Deathwish.

Maybe there is no modern day Bronson!

 

gualbert 07.15.2010 02:44 PM

Remakes of mute movies are worthwhile, I think. (anyone watched a mute version of Hamlet??)

Derek 07.15.2010 02:46 PM

Jay: Welcome to "Coming Attractions". I'm your host, Jay Sherman, thank you. Tonight, we review an aging Charles Bronson in "Death Wish 9".
Bronson: [in a hospital bed] I wish I was dead. Oy!

chicka 07.15.2010 02:52 PM

Ted & Bill Excellent Adventure seems ripe for a remake or Sean Penn's Bad Boys

Count Mecha 07.15.2010 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
really though, I have spent the past minutes trying to think of a movie, ANY Movie, that was a remake that was as good or better than the original.


Maltese Falcon
Wizard of OZ
The Thing (obvious choice)
I'm sure someone out there prefers Klaus Kinski's Nosferatu to the original.
There are like five zillion versions of the Three Godfathers story, some probably better than the original.
Throne of Blood
3:10 to Yuma

And uh, that's all I can think of. There are a ton of versions of A Star Is Born, but I haven't seen any of them.

Count Mecha 07.15.2010 07:26 PM

Oh, and The Blob I guess. Though I like the original, probably like the newer one more.

atsonicpark 07.15.2010 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
really though, I have spent the past minutes trying to think of a movie, ANY Movie, that was a remake that was as good or better than the original.



Literally at the top of my head:
Scarface
The Fly
The Blob
Hills Have Eyes (until the last 15 mins)
Dangerous Liasons
Little Shop of Horrors
Insomnia (the Pacino/Nolan one; remake of a great film but still being really good, not better though)
The Thing
Ransom
12 Monkeys (a good version of La Jaettee)
The Departed
Ocean's 11
Heat (!!!!!!!!!!!! this is L.A. Takedown, everyone)
Man Who Knew Too Much
Vanilla Sky
Cape FEar
Fatal Attraction
Funny Games
The Ring (which I don't like, but it's leagues better than Ringu!)
Fistful of Dollars (Yojimbo!)

Controversial, but I'd say Payback might be a little better than Point Blank...

I think Night of the Living Dead -- Savini's -- is better than Romero's.

I'm sure there's tons if I think about em for a few minutes. Looks like quite a few good remakes...
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Originally Posted by viewtiful alan redux
Star Wars... oh wait


Yeah, isn't Star Wars a remake though? I mean, it's a Hidden Fortress remake, right?

I'm kidding, but you know. Well..
...

HEY, DEREK, The Critic rules. "tonight we'll look at home alone 5.... I'M 26 AND I'M STILL HOME ALONE. AHHHHHHHHHHH. *cigarette falls out of mouth*"

Count Mecha 07.16.2010 12:01 AM

I'd say Cape Fear is a pretty controversial choice.

alteredcourse 07.16.2010 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark
I changed my answer. I think all movies should be remade. And then they should remake the remakes, too. I mean, why not? The original film will still exist.


I love this notion. I hate the idea that whatever becomes released will obtain centre stage and have a hand at forming mainstream consciousness and changing the way that people view whatever the original filmmaker had in mind, but there is always room for people to dig a little deeper and investigate what is before them. Sometimes when I watch absolute shit that was "inspired by" who anyone would call classic, that is when I can truly define what it is that the hack is trying to accomplish. It's apart of history. It has a part.
Besides, some of the most awesome creations come from unexpected fuckups. I wish I had some examples, but I'm pretty bad at that sort of thing.
Sigh, I probably had more to ramble about, but I doubt I'd get to my point if I continued. Pie season is a'comin.


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