Mike Patton
 

What albums featuring him are good? Never really got into Mr. Bungle/Faith No More, but I was watching some Mr. Bungle and Tomahawk stuff on youtube the other day and I dig some of it, though Mike Patton's eclectic style takes some of the stuff into unfamiliar territory to me (he's a bit more metal and modern rock than I'm used to, if you know what I mean.)

Disco Volante or California by Mr. Bungle, Director's Cut by Fantomas, Kaada/Patton "Romances" album.

Everything else is VERY hit or miss. Usually miss. He sucks. Uh.. Tomahawk sucks, Faith No More usually sucks (I like "Angel Dust"), Peeping Tom SUCKS, etc. His solo recordings are terrible. Loveage is TERRIBLE, probably the worst. His collaboration with the X-Ecutioners is terrible.

The thing with Patton, he works with very talented people. As good as Mr. bungle is, I'd MUCH rather listen to Secret Chiefs 3. I used to be a big Patton fan -- well, I appreciated him a lot more, but his thing is, he just works with talented people and rips off John Zorn for most of his better ideas anyway.

But definitely you can't do wrong with getting Disco Volante and California, which are jaw-droppingly brilliant.. usually.

Yeah what Adam said, really. Especially Disco Volante.

oh, Disco volante, awesome album!

Yeah too bad it's one of the very few things that Patton has done that are good, though I wouldn't call him a John Zorn rip off.

i sorta like that album with ikue mori and zorn. never have desire to listen to it. "director's cut" is ok. "disco volante" is phenoenal.

The other day I downloaded Music to Make Love to Your Old Woman By by Lovage, but I haven't listened to it yet.

All of the Fantomas albums I've ever listened to were amazing.

I need to download Disco Volante.

From the 2 tomahawk songs I heard, I didn't gather that they sucked. There were some things I liked, but some odd moments as well. Like how he goes from singing like the guy from Fields of Nephilim to singing like David Lee Roth in one song. I'm not sure why.

I dunno, Tomahawk just bores the shit out of me. Really lazy songs. There are some really tight rhythms here and there but it just doesn't strike me as anything special. And Patton is the worst part of the band.

Zeropumpkins, what I meant by Zorn ripoff was that the entire Fantomas project resembles Zorn projects... Naked City for the more crazier stuff, Zorn's The Big Gun Down and Film Works series for Director's Cut, and that ambient album (Delirium Cordia) could be any number of Zorn's albums as well (not just because it's ambient but because of certain moments in the recording). I don't think he's an outright copy or steal... I just think he has done a shitty job, um, "reinterpreting" some of Zorn's finer ideas with that band. No biggy. People can listen to and enjoy both, and that's good. I do love Director's Cut, though it's essentially just "part of the actual film score followed by a thrash part" in most songs... still, really good music. The craziesr Fantomas albums suck, especially the one that's a soundtrack to a comic book. Some cool rhythms and stuff here and there but as a whole it's pretty bad. I dunno, I like songs to actually do something I guess instead of display "oh look we can pan a cymbal in one speaker and mike patton going 'cha cha ha!' in the other speaker for 2 minutes." Maybe I'm weird. Or I'm just not impressed easily by that kind of shit. Really, when you have a Melvin and someone from Slayer and Trevor fucking Dunn in your band, you should be writing masterpieces...

I can see that

I used to be into most of his stuff, and have a lot of it purchased, but I can't say I really listen to any of it a lot lately.

"omgz Im a pompous music asshole" -Patton

Good record label though.

I see your point but I must say I really like the first Fantomas album. Delirium Cordia I don't really have the time for though. And yes, Trevor Dunn is an amazing bass player.

it's not funny! my ass is on fire!

I'm still pretty sure that song is about STD's

I've got abit of most of the bands hes been in, but I've never loved any of it. Faith No More probably my preferred. and Tomahawk are probably the most interesting along with FNM when they're at they're peak. Helmet drumming, Jesus Lizard guitar, and whoever the other guy is I can't remember, nice line-up there.

The other guy was a cow.

And Melvin at one stage.

yes.

I think he's not in tomahawk either now.

just saying, the other two were in some of my favourite bands. Stanier is still in the Mark of Cain.

Stainer is such a fantastic drummer. I'm particularly fond of his work with Battles.

yeah. he definitely is the best part of every band he's been in.

What's with the retardly high crash cymbal though?

hahaha.

How's the album he did with Merzbow? Maldoror I think it was called.

shit.

Oh, someone recommended it to me and keeps telling me to listen to it so I dunno.

I'm just gonna assume it's a Merzbow album with lame Patton vocals he stole off Yamataka Eye....

there ya go.

You know, I don't think it's that hard to do that sort of vocals (I can do it sort of easily). But at least when Eye did it, it was sort of original and interesting.

I say 'sort of' too much

there ya go.

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don't get me wrong, I like Patton, I love the majority of things I've heard from him... but he's not THAT great of a vocalist. Yeah, he's versatile but it's not like he's particular good at one set of style.

"there ya go."

Yeah

Again, i think he's the worst element of all the bands he's in.

He's pretty brilliant on some Bungle songs though. "Goodbye Sober Day"!

I have loved the first Mr Bungle album for almost two decades now. It has some fucking awesome tunes and crazy sequencing. Travolta rules, My ass is on fire, Carousel, girls of porn, I fucking love them all.
great shit, like being on too much LSD at a carnival/porn convention/insane asylum.
Disco Volante is really great too, different type of album though, much darker and harsher at times.

I hate California. Cannot stand it. seems so boring compared to the first two. hate the guitar sound on it.

as far as faith no more stuff, The Real Thing is great for what it is, but it is not everyone's favorite. If you like the early chili peppers stuff or Sprawl or Jane's addiction you will probably like it.

ANGEL DUST is an undisputed masterpiece man! That album fucking rules all, and was the last FNM album with guitarist Jim Martin. I missed his guitar work in the next FNM album, King for a day.. which i think sucks major ass.


I never got into Fatomas, or Loveage, although I have friends who swear by them.

I think Patton;s versatility is amazing. His voice can do many things in many ways and that IS something good. so he is not the "best" at any one style. who cares? do you listent o rock so you can ROCK or do you listen to it to wank off on how fabulopus the technical mastery of these assholes is? shit. just rock out man.

well said, sir

I didn't know he was on the Lovage album...

he IS Loveage
;)