New Avril single - "What The Hell?"
 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBKK07T3s5I

Avril Lavigne - What The Hell? - 2011

I'm not sure if I like it so much (yet), but I'm still very excited for Goodbye Lullaby. I trust that this album will be just a gem-ridden as her others.

It's already growing on me. Still not as good as anything off of Let Go, except for Sk8r Boi - which sucks.

Sounds like her voice is dropping (as is natural) - she's got a LOT thicker around the lower end of her register, getting into contralto (rather than her normal mezzosoprano).

Song's good as well, but sounds like the sort of thing I'll enjoy in the context of an album - like the Best Damn Thing singles.

Incidentally, Under my Skin was her best album, as well as being one of the best albums of the 00s, for me.

Up until the chorus kicked in I thought it was a pretty ordinary Girlfriend retread but that chorus ... It strikes in two phases. Skillz!

Yeah, I noticed she sounded a bit different this time around; my realization was void of such fancy-shmancy tech terms, of course. I just wish her first single would have been more of a rock tune, something with a little guitar in it. Not only do I find that style more suiting to her talents, but I think it would've been a refreshing distinction from the rest of today's modern hits. This song sounds extremely Katy Perry to me, which isn't necessarily a bad thing, but it would've been nice had it been more unique. But then again, it did reach #3 on iTunes within the first day that it was uploaded... so what do I know?

Not so sure about the Perry thing. She's not quite into that poppy rnb territory yet, thankfully. Listening now though, it is a bit third-album Kelly Clarkson. Which is odd, because that album was awful. Maybe Avril's just got the voice to carry it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQmEd_UeeIk

Video dropped last week. Damn, she's looking good in the beginning...

Sweet how she flicks off the camera too. Hell yeah.

too much product placement in the vid, a bit too annoying, it's not like she's a "new act" needing support from (big or not) brands... And I hate the lalalala parts..

Product placement is how the industry is recouping money now, isn't it? It's all over loads of videos now. Thanks to youtube, they can get past the product placement filters on most TV channels, you see?

Be sure to pause this at 24 seconds (it's funny).

God, I'd completely forgotten how utterly AMAZING this song is.

people seriously think this is live?

People seriously care whether or not other people think things are live on TV?

Yes, I think it's an "industry standard" nowadays, quite sadly (even in big budget movies).
In avril's there's lots of sony, Abbey Dawn, etc etc, even more "obvious" than that britney one.
I have no tv (and frankly I don't miss it at all), I'm a bit out of the loop with pop vids and such, so I can't really have a, say, 30 mins session of vids to check how the newest are, in general. Perhaps I should reconnect with the tv world. Could be useful for some purposes...

p.s. do you like the lalalala parts?

1st of all: Auto-tune.

2nd: Really guys? Jesus Christ...

Shut up.
Why do you shoot videos for?
To get less famous?

Really?

ok, you're just jealous coz she looks better than you half naked.

I'm a big fan of the lalala in general. I'm also a big fan of Nananas as well. It's a well deployed lalala, if you ask me.

I wasn't that offended by the product placement in the Avril video because it's genuinely subtle by comparison to this (which also happens to be awesome).

ha ha , dude, really? You never cease to amaze me.


Glice, I'll get back to you after a good pasta al pesto, I'm starving.

Yeah really, you can neg rep me back. I could care less. It doesn't affect me whatsoever lol.

Why do you assume I'm jealous?

She's pretty hot, but not hot enough for me to act like I like her music...


I'm just blown away that people are discussing avril on here lol...


That said. At least she's finally stopped fronting that she's a punk rocker...

^ I was just coming in to chime in on the discussion....


Seriously critiquing her music.....of course I don't mean to criticize anyone here....just that I did not expect it in this forum.

I don't give a fuck about rep (I see it only when I check my subscribed threads in the "your settings" section), I just wonder why you do actually take time to neg rep people.


Saying you're jealous because you look worse then her half naked doesn't sound like something worth discussing. It was just a facetious remark to give some kind of meaning to your posts in this thread.(and you didn't even bad rep me for that).


Are you sayin' that in some cases you act like you like someone's music just because she/he is hot? Weird.

It's not even the first time, lol.

She be :fuckyou:flippin' the birds:fuckyou: in this video too, how's that about punkness!?!:eek: (hope someone will get that I'm kidding again).

Glice, I don't like that MCR song, sounds a bit too "old" somehow (reminds me of too much stuff at the same time, Monks included), and yes, there's nothing "particularly offensive" in this Avril vid in terms of product placement...I guess I just noticed it more than usual due to my "tv abstinence" in the last couple months or so...but how can you call this "subtle"?






haha, ok, it's avril stuff, like the perfumes (but after the sony vaio, which is weirdly facing a wall, showing its big logo, sony lcd tv with 3d glasses' set, put for no reason into a shot even if it's turned off, sony ericsson phone with hd camera (front+back), and his boyfriend's marc jacobs' shirt).... but subtle?
nooo....
Am I being oversensitive here?
I may well be.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to nicfit again.

Abbey Dawn is her line, and who gives a fuck about the Sony product plugs? This is Avril Lavigne we're talking about. Plus, it's not exactly unrealistic, if I shot a video in my room I'd be plugging an HP laptop, numerous Faygo flavors, a GE tv, Nintendo, Sega, Sony PS2, an RCA VCR, etc. That's just the world we live in.

I'm so ready for the new album to drop. Avril rules. End of story. If you don't agree, get out of this thread and go lick a goat anus somewhere.

true dat, but then why "censor" the ford logo on the taxi :D?
It's all marketing/target audience etc.
BTW, I don't mean to hijack the thread talking about the product placement strategies in modern pop music videos, I'm being too sensitive on the matter, studying ads and stuff, haha.
Still haven't decided how much I like this song, the lalalalas still put me off a bit...something else would have worked better..but I can't figure out what, yet, so I'll give the whole thing the benefit of the doubt for now (if that does actually mean something in this case)...

She should've just pig squealed.

I don't care about rep either, that's why I give out neg rep. It makes me laugh when ppl get all butt-hurt about it. If I gave you positive rep, would you have posted it too? lol.


Other than that I have too much going on to deal with in the real world to worry about a post by post reply and board "fights".

Even though you are probably not upset and neither am I.

If you don't like my music that's fine man, but I guess I'm just getting annoyed with a specific few who seem to like to make cheap shots at what I'm doing and bringing it up for no reason.

Why does any broke artist choose to create? Because they love what they do. I'm sick of negative people who probably have 10 therapists talking shit about my music, and then talking about Avril fucking Lavigne hahahaha.

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Are you sayin' that in some cases you act like you like someone's music just because she/he is hot? Weird.

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No, but I'm sure others here are guilty of it. Or masterbated to her music videos enough that yall actually started liking her music.

DeadDiscoDildo is too complicated to appreciate Avril Lavigne.

I suppose so...

Maybe it's not even the hook, but her shallow message.

Probably not, coz that would have made way more sense.

*restofasuperlongpostcomingviapmcozidontwanttoruin thisthreadfurther*

no, wait, fuck it I changed my mind, here it is.
please take the following with a grain of salt (everyone of you who will take the time to read).


I'm not upset, I just find your behavior pretty peculiar (see rest of this post).


I'm not interested in a "board fight", I'd just like you to think about something:

In this thread I (and anybody else, for what it's worth) didn't even mention ONCE something about the quality of your music or my (their) enjoyment or lack of it for your music.

And theese are "cheap shots", by the way:

and are points brought up for no reason, too.

Now, if you just replied to my "sarcastic question" about the video with honesty (something like "we did it coz it's fun, and fuck you if you don't like this") I'd have replied: "we like her songs coz they're fun, and fuck you if you don't like them" and "she uses autotune coz she fuckin feels like doing so". End of story.

But no...
Instead of replying, neg rep (again, if someone doesn't get it, I'm not saying this because I care about rep, but because that means DDD actually did read my question in that post), and when you come back you feel the need to ask about that "jealous" thinghy, like it was something important..

Someone say something against one of your posts->you start a sort of interior trip about people's appreciation for you/your artistic output.

I might be wrong, but it's a pattern seen numerous times, and rarely with some "grip" to the real state of things, imo.

A pattern which ends with another post with you claiming you don't care about what people thinks, but you still feel the need to add something like:

"I'm sick of negative people who probably have 10 therapists talking shit about my music, and then talking about Avril fucking Lavigne hahahaha."

which shows that you care enough to let us know that some negative people has been talking shit about your music and now they're here talking about Avril Lavigne, like it's some sort of blasphemy talking about her music, after having talked shit about yours somewhere down the line. (which is not my case, btw, I think I said only good things about your music, since when you asked for suggestion on mixing some demos back in the days)

I don't mean this as a "mean" post (and I've probably put even too much effort in this), but hell, dude, I'd think about this whole thing, I think I'm not the only one who noticed that infamous pattern..

Oh, and there's this too:


Is it really that hard to fathom that it's possible for human beings to like her music just because it's good pop music?
Oh, right, I forgot, "here" there are negative people etc...it's impossible for them not to be crazy perverts...
BTW

"yall"= like, 3 people in this whole thread.
With everyneurotic as honorary member.

Ughhh, this is exactly the kind of thing I don't have the time and energy for.

I could post by post argue back with valid points...this would go on forever.

Let's just stfu shall we?

I think, for me, the weird thing with Avril is that she's got a much, much better voice than nearly every other vocalist I can think of - with people like Namchylek, Galas and orthodox opera sorts excluded. She also (unlike late-Carey or early-Aguilera) produces (arguably) great (pop) songs. What grates with me is that she's treated as if a pop artists shouldn't do what she does. What, exactly, is wrong with co-opting (pop) punk techniques for a popular audience? Do we criticise Blondie after the fact for being popular (or stealing reggae ideas)? VU/ Stooges/ Ramones for being on adverts? B182 for not singing about fucking dogs any more?

Don't like her music - that's fine; what I find odd is criticising a pop artist for being a pop artist and doing pop artist things. Gaga doesn't seem to rile SYG the way Lavigne does - is this because people aren't talking about her as much, or because she goes no-where near the SYG sensibility? Ok, she's stitched into the vulgar end of the 'pop system', but I don't think any post-pubescents believe she's 'authentic' in the way 'we' believe Black Flag [who, personally, I've never liked] to be.

None of this has anything to do with the music, by the by. I'm getting to love the vintage synths on it. SSOOOOOOOOO excited for the new album.

Let's talk about how remarkable Avril Lavigne's first 2 albums are instead.




Let Go is my personal favorite. Avril was so young, and refreshing at this point in her career. Complicated and Sk8r Boi took over the nation, and her grungey tomboy pop diva gimmick worked wonderfully. My favorite song by her is the 3rd single, Losing Grip, however. There are many, many hidden gems on this album, making it a frequent mustplay for me:

I'm With You - Avril's remarkable voice really shines on this track. Her performance is heartfelt, and the lyrics are touching.

Mobile - Extremely catchy, could have been a single.

Unwanted - Another favorite. This is a powerful track, possibly the "heaviest" on the album. Avril's voice shines once again, the hook is great, and the lyrics are very relatable.

Tomorrow - Beautiful tune. Makes me tear up at times. I play this one to death. Avril's voice is great. DeadDiscoDildo can suck it.

Anything But Ordinary - The lyrics are kind of stale at times, but who gives a fuck. Very catchy, nice melody driven by Avril's voice. I really like the production on this track.

Things I'll Never Say - The chorus to this one is so neat. Reminds me of Caterpillar by The Cure.... sorta, not really. Glice would probably do a better job at explaining it than I would. Very neat tune though, and it's quite different from anything she's ever done since.

Too Much To Ask - Sad song. Gets me emotionally, but not as hard as Tomorrow does. Catchy chorus.

Naked - Pretty standard tune. This one is cool because it makes you imagine Avril Lavigne naked, both literally and figuratively.

Why - Very unlike something that I'd enjoy. But this song is easily one of my favorites on the album. Very bare-bones production for a pop track. Chorus is great. Makes me feel like cuddling.

I pretty much love the entire album form start to finish. Even tracks that aren't necessarily my favorites like Sk8r Boi, and Nobody's Fool flow well with the album, at least.

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I have to prepare for the company I'm about to have. Expect an in-depth song review of Under My Skin soon. Hopefully Glice beats me to it, I remember that being his favorite.

Anyway, until then...




FUCK OFF H8R BOIZ!!!!! :fuckyou::fuckyou:

Whatever man.
"shut up" are the first two words of my very first post in reply to yours, btw.

I think a nanana is a bit more 'look, I'm saying nanana'; lalala is a bit more romantic, methinks. I'm trying to think of other good lalalas now - struggling.

lalalala, loads of lalala.

lalala but not exactly the same thing...
another good lalala pop song
even metallica lalalaed.

I think nananana is more "brattish" somehow (blin182, even p!nk, g'n'r too?)

and there's da da da too, understimated.