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gmku 07.16.2008 08:05 PM

Not if you live in air conditioning.

Besides, the fall is coming. Mark my words!

Cantankerous 07.16.2008 08:09 PM

in about three months.

ooooh apparently in new york it's 76 degrees

i can't wait to go back hoooooome

gmku 07.16.2008 08:10 PM

I almost always buy off season. You get the best deals that way. Besides, I have umpteen polos and tees. I needed trousers and sweaters.

Hey, at least I'm not buying any more jeans.

Cantankerous 07.16.2008 08:14 PM

most of my clothes are vintage. so there is no off-season.

gmku 07.16.2008 08:20 PM

That's cool. But for myself, maybe because of my age, I'm afraid I can't find enough that works in the vintage places. By necessity I've had to resort to BR, J. Crew, and the Gap, and yes, even, in my most desperate moments, Eddie Bauer.

These sweaters, though--they're more like what I'd call a summer sweater. Very lightweight, almost like tee shirt weight. Like you could wear these on the beach after the sun sets and the cool breezes come in. Like a long-sleeved top you might wear with some summer shorts. Not a fall or winter heavy sweater at all.

ithinkimissyou 07.16.2008 08:28 PM

Serious lack of decent vintage stores in Dublin

My favourite one turned into a furniture shop

A vintage furniture shop

gmku 07.16.2008 08:29 PM

I think as the economy worsens people must be hanging on to their old clothes more. Pickings sure have been slim at the vintage stores I go to, anyway.

Furniture is boring.

Cantankerous 07.16.2008 08:33 PM

i understand what you mean about the vintage thing, a lot of things that i wear would look absolutely ridiculous on most people

i like sweaters like this (i'm very big on sweaters, by the way)

 

 



just ones that are a bit odd or off in some way

gmku 07.16.2008 08:33 PM

So my BR clothes come with this little hard tag on the inside, near the waistline, that says REMOVE BEFORE WEARING.

I've worn them already before removing this. UH OH? WTF?

Cantankerous 07.16.2008 08:35 PM

just cut the tag out before you wash them, i think it's like that silica shit on the inside

gmku 07.16.2008 08:37 PM

I've run an analysis of this and my clothes fetishes include:

Shoes
Jackets
Sweaters
Polos
Tees

I have to be careful because I can end up buying endless number of the same item, in different variations. I currently have two navy lightweight cardigans, for example--wtf!?

but yeah, vintage is a tricky thing. It has to work with the whole package. At my age, and given the kind of "casual but borderline professional" image I have to present, I'm safer with BR and J. Crew mall shopping.

Cantankerous 07.16.2008 08:38 PM

now let's talk about shoes



i am not above buying my shoes at forever21

 

 

gmku 07.16.2008 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cantankerous
just cut the tag out before you wash them, i think it's like that silica shit on the inside


So what is it even there for? To preserve the fabric life while the clothes are on the store shelves? I haven't seen this before.

Cantankerous 07.16.2008 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gmku
So what is it even there for? To preserve the fabric life while the clothes are on the store shelves? I haven't seen this before.

or summat

i have no idea actually


also speaking of shoes

 




i'm going to move to siberia just so i can wear these all year.

gmku 07.16.2008 08:40 PM

Shoes.

God, I could be a girl about shoes.

I think the only thing that saves me is my wife is obsessed with shoes, so that tempers my shoe fetish a little. I mean, we can only afford so many shoes between the two of us.

gmku 07.16.2008 08:41 PM

I'm currently obsessed with finding a particular kind of Jack Purcell shoe.

Cantankerous 07.16.2008 08:43 PM

god i really wish i could wear uggs every day
well i do, in the winter and fall unless i have to actually get dressed for dinner or whatever

but it would make life so much easier

gmku 07.16.2008 08:45 PM

I hear ya.

I have a thing for Clarks Desert Boots. It's too hot most of the year here for them, but I have two pair now.

I haven't worn my brown leather Doc Martens boots since 1994 but I can't bear to take them out of my closet.

Cantankerous 07.16.2008 08:47 PM

get rid of them. baggage!

also i have to ask

since you were around in the 70s

do you remember a particular sort of sweater that had like..clouds, sort of...knitted into it

hold on

i have one and in some scene in eternal sunshine clementine is wearing one

gmku 07.16.2008 08:50 PM

There was so much weird shit in the 70s. Seriously, really weird.

It was confusing, even, I'd say. It got so I decided to go sort of preppy because I could never tell if anything "trendy" really looked any good. So in college in the 70s I was dressing in preppy Izod sweaters, those awful white tennis sweaters with the blue and red collar bands, and Penguin polos and button down collars.

So I might have seen that but I don't really remember.

I bought this bad polo once in 1976 that had red and white stripes running vertical. In a bad moment I thought it looked incredibly edgy and even wore it on a date. God, I can't believe it. It was awful.

Cantankerous 07.16.2008 08:52 PM

there was a lot of weird shit in the 70s. and for some reason they had to put chickens and owls on fucking EVERYTHING.

like richie from the royal tenenbaums?

or have you seen the talking heads on the old grey whistle test with their izods with the collar popped?

Cantankerous 07.16.2008 08:53 PM

AHA found it


 

gmku 07.16.2008 08:55 PM

Ha ha! Well, hmm, looks typically 70s but I think like Jim my focus was usually not on the girl's clothes so much as other things, like her faraway eyes and such, being the romantic type guy I was and all.

What can I say. The 70s were a blur of disco lights, polyester, cheap beer, and bad weed.

Cantankerous 07.16.2008 08:57 PM

that's one way to put it.
i need a time machine. although, i mean, it was a pretty bleak time but then again things have only been getting worse if you ask me..

gmku 07.16.2008 09:00 PM

I'm not sure I'd want to go back to the 70s. If I did, I'd chose pre-73 or post-77. The middle was dull and stupid.

Cantankerous 07.16.2008 09:01 PM

yeah
70-73 or 77-80 would probably be my personal choice

gmku 07.16.2008 09:02 PM

73-77 was a dead zone. Terrible. Unless you were a disco queen or fraternity jerk.

Cantankerous 07.16.2008 09:03 PM

i love disco

i wish i coulda gone to studio 54 and also been around for when punk happened

gmku 07.16.2008 09:06 PM

Oh, ugh. Sorry, I lived through disco. What a bad trip. Not Studio 54, of course. Just the phenomenon of it. The most superficial of the superficial. Glitz of the glitz. To paraphrase Gertrude, there was no there there. The most utterly empty and vacuous cultural experience I can possibly imagine.

Cantankerous 07.16.2008 09:08 PM

i probably enjoy it because i didn't experience it.
from what i understand kids were pretty different back then than they are now. like the kids who were into rock were really against disco and stuff. i have one rocker-acid-queen aunt and her sister, my other aunt, was all into disco.

gmku 07.16.2008 09:13 PM

Yeah, it's hard to explain. One of my best friends back then was a disco maniac. I was a complete rocker. It was a gut-level thing. If you were a rocker, you were nauseated by disco. It had to do a lot with the values disco represented to the rocker--everything the rocker opposed was embodied in disco. Disco was about riches, about upward mobility, about trodding on the downtrodden. Rock was egalitarian, about celebrating the poor and the downtrodden.

You know, if you went to a disco, you had to dress up. You had to put on polyester and wear platform shoes and look "good." If you went to a rock club, you wore your ratty jeans and fruit of the loom t-shirt.

But that's all debatable, because disco grew out of the ghetto and out of gay culture. So... But when it became a white kids thing, it became something else...

But what bother me most, as a music lover, was that I always had the sense that kids into disco really were not into music all that much. They were into dancing, but they didn't have much in the way of a record collection. They certainly didn't know much about the traditions disco grew out of, either--nothing about jazz or old motown. At least not the kids I knew.

Cantankerous 07.16.2008 09:15 PM

oh, maybe my generation doesn't care about values in music. i certainly don't. i just listen to what sounds good to my ears, which could be disco, it could be rock, metal, rap, whatever. pretty much anything but classical. music is music.

gmku 07.16.2008 09:24 PM

Nah, there are still cultural contexts to music. It's way different going to, say, a club here in Columbia that features a beach band and caters to over-50 boomers than one where some punk band is playing to a crowd of college kids. Similar split in the 70s only it was among kids of the same generation.

Which makes me think--I see the SAME split in people my age today. I know a lot of professional people who go for that lame bar scene where it's all oldies and beach music, and I know what I think of as "hipper" people who are for lack of a better description more "bohemian" than these professionals and who listen to jazz or alternative rock music or are really into blues and stay away from those places. It's like that split in my generation in the disco days only now we're grown up. I just realized this. I bet these same fuckers who go to these lame-ass oldies bars and try to dance are the same losers who went to discos in the 70s. It must be why I feel so weird when people drag me to those godawful beach band venues around here.

✌➬ 07.16.2008 09:25 PM

I am Getting ready I have a date with some guy.

gmku 07.16.2008 09:27 PM

I hope you're wearing Banana Republic. You're sure to score.

✌➬ 07.16.2008 09:28 PM

Eew god no, oooh I should wear my black Goo shirt. Yeah that one.

gmku 07.16.2008 09:30 PM

Oh, grow up and start wearing real clothes, for god's sake. Band tee shirts are for kids. You're not a kid are you?

✌➬ 07.16.2008 09:31 PM

Gays never grow up.

gmku 07.16.2008 09:32 PM

Please don't spread such stereotyping nonsense, you silly little faggot.

✌➬ 07.16.2008 09:33 PM

As If...


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