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Rob Instigator 06.02.2010 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knox
really?

anyway.


it is relevant. humans created mathematics, the science of mathematics.

just like humans created geometry, another branch of mathematics.

and I do believe Math was orginally created by women.

space 06.02.2010 01:00 PM

do you mean to tell me that there's math.....in the kitchen???!

SONIC GAIL 06.02.2010 01:01 PM

Can't believe this thread is still going! Well done I say.

space 06.02.2010 01:02 PM

I wish that I had some pie right now.

gualbert 06.02.2010 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by space
do you mean to tell me that there's math.....in the kitchen???!

Sure..to make a good cake. It can be useful.

space 06.02.2010 01:04 PM

pie is so much better than cake.

Rob Instigator 06.02.2010 01:04 PM

I think it is too easy to discount the actual genetic source for males obsessions with whatever females they find attractive.
nature versus nurture sure, but in the case of many men's overwhelming lust it is probably purely genetic. society teaches specifics about the male/female relationship, and in patriarchal society young men are definitely taught to view women as objects, which further reinforces what the genes are already telling young boys.

there are not many species which diferentiate sexually who do not have a wild difference between the appearance of the male and the female. in some it is the male which is the predominant bearer of "beauty" to attract the female (peacocks for example), and in many it is the female that is the one bearing the "beauty" of the species. (of course beauty is a relative term when seen from human eyes)

In Humans the female is generally seen as more beautiful than the male, to both men and women. to many people a naked woman is a naked woman while a naked man is a naked ape.

space 06.02.2010 01:08 PM

I only experience overwhelming lust for women who I percieved to be as equal to or greater than myself (math).

it has nothing to do with physical appearance.

I'm a soul man.

space 06.02.2010 01:09 PM

oh, and PIE, please.

space 06.02.2010 01:12 PM

 

LOOK! I found my favorite pie on a site called "math for primates"!!!!

there's MATH in PIE!!!!!!

gualbert 06.02.2010 01:14 PM

Yes, how to part a pie (or a cake) in 5 equal parts is rather tough.

Genteel Death 06.02.2010 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
I think it is too easy to discount the actual genetic source for males obsessions with whatever females they find attractive.
nature versus nurture sure, but in the case of many men's overwhelming lust it is probably purely genetic. society teaches specifics about the male/female relationship, and in patriarchal society young men are definitely taught to view women as objects, which further reinforces what the genes are already telling young boys.

there are not many species which diferentiate sexually who do not have a wild difference between the appearance of the male and the female. in some it is the male which is the predominant bearer of "beauty" to attract the female (peacocks for example), and in many it is the female that is the one bearing the "beauty" of the species. (of course beauty is a relative term when seen from human eyes)

In Humans the female is generally seen as more beautiful than the male, to both men and women. to many people a naked woman is a naked woman while a naked man is a naked ape.

Isn't the earth populated by more women than men? Rethorical question, I know.

Better_Than_Deux 06.02.2010 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
In Humans the female is generally seen as more beautiful than the male, to both men and women. to many people a naked woman is a naked woman while a naked man is a naked ape.


I think a naked women is more beautiful than a naked man. In a "if you could have a naked statue of a man or a woman in your house, which would you choose?" sort of way.

space 06.02.2010 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gualbert
Yes, how to part a pie (or a cake) in 5 equal parts is rather tough.

you should try 3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375 1058209749445923078164062862089986280348253421170679 82148086513282306647093844609550582231725359408128 48111745028410270198521105559644622948954930381964 42881097566593344612847564823378678316527120190914 56485669234603486104543266482133936072602491412737 24587006606315588174881520920962829254091715364367 89259036001133053054882046652138414695194151160943 30572703657595919530921861173819326117931051185480 74462379962749567351885752724891227938183011949129 83367336244065664308602139494639522473719070217986 09437027705392171762931767523846748184676694051320 00568127145263560827785771342757789609173637178721 46844090122495343014654958537105079227968925892354 20199561121290219608640344181598136297747713099605 187072113499999983729780499510597317328160963185950244594553469083 02642522308253344685035261931188171010003137838752 88658753320838142061717766914730359825349042875546 87311595628638823537875937519577818577805321712268 06613001927876611195909216420198938095257201065485 86327886593615338182796823030195203530185296899577 36225994138912497217752834791315155748572424541506 959 pieces.

Rob Instigator 06.02.2010 01:32 PM

what I have read worldwide is around 51% female 49% male, plus or minus

except in China where they are breeding baby boys at a prodigious rate.

gualbert 06.02.2010 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gualbert
Yes, how to part a pie (or a cake) in 5 equal parts is rather tough.

This is geometry, not algebra, space.

Genteel Death 06.02.2010 01:52 PM

You seem to be talking abou two different things. Human eyes can see the appeal of both types of bodies, and still feel like the animal instinct which pushes us towards a particular sex organ doesn't find the overall aesthetical merits of our least sexually preferred gender enough to warrant objectification of both, at least in the majority of cases. Sure, you can try anything out and perhaps even enjoy the experience, yet unless you regularly have intercourse with them, you can hardly claim preference as such.
@rob

Genteel Death 06.02.2010 01:59 PM

Rob, did you ever find yourself in front of an obviously good looking dude and thought ''wow he's nice looking, still not enough for me to have sex with him''?

Rob Instigator 06.02.2010 02:04 PM

Nope. Ussually it is more like "I bet the ladies find this guy super handsome."

Genteel Death 06.02.2010 02:06 PM

Well, not much different than admitting that you can recognize male beauty as well as female.


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