Yes I can and I am.. And just because Sonic Youth incorporates noise into their music doesn't mean they are a noise band.

If it did....I would like noise.

Well they have evolved from it, but their roots trace to noise. You can even hear it in Rather Ripped.

If I continue this, we'll just say the same thing over and over again.

Agreed. I am going to stop. I already said what I wanted to say.

like I said earlier

sonic youth (and polvo and unwound, etc.) make music out of noise.

Too many "bands" these days are just out making noise.

agreed

i like to listen to cheap trick then chase it with a little slogun afterwards.

Just because there are so many charlatans around it doesn't mean that you should be taking it out on a whole genre of music, though. The biggest pain in the butt that music in general faces today is the listener getting a little too opinionated about things he/she dosn't know much about, or the same listener suddenly thinking that they are an artist. It's the noise pollution that creates the problems in music, not the music itself. This can be proved by the fact that when you listen to something that is really good, it puts everything else into perspective.

and your point is?

sy and all those bands are one thing, the other ones are something else; you can take either one or both or none of them.

my point is literally ANYONE can get on stage and manufacture noises for 30 minutes, or an hour. ANYONE. it takes no talent, it takes no skill, it takes no inventiveness, or musical anything. what does take talent and skill and ideas and inventiveness is shaping those self-same noises into a piece of MUSIC.

Yeah, but by the same talking it comes across as Sonic Youth are the only band that can have noise sections in their music, which is bullshit. Also, electric guitar noise is not the same as digital noise or noise that is made with other various types of instrumentation. You can make the loudest racket that is known to the human ear, but it will always come ascross when something is of worth and something isn't. You can't really say that all noise is shit because that is simply not true and comes across as a bit myopic.

I never said noise is shit. I never said sonic youth are the only ones who can use noise.
I enjoy wolf eyes crazy shit.
and other noise acts.
anyone can make bleeps and bloops. make a great fucking song and I will be impressed.

anyone can also get onstage and manufature guitar music crap for 30 minutes or an hour, i mean, how hard is it to learn a power chord, or a bare chord or three open chords? it doesn't take any skill or talent either.

or are you saying that, by just playing songs in a band format, good charlotte or fall out boy are by default better than, say, lasse marhaug or sutcliffe jügend?

there's literally millions of bands that play rock or music in general with absolutely no talent or originality (and some even get tons of money doing so).

there's crap music everywhere, regardless of talent or skill.

I never said "better" or "worse"
just personal opinions about listenability.

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I. BxC/CEAs
II. Yellow Swans/Mouthus/ Sick Hour/BxC show in Cinci

I.
Burning Star Core / myself are nominated for three awards in
Citybeat's annual Cincinnati Entertainment Awards. These include the
"Experimental/ Electronic" category, as well as "Musical Ambassador"
and "Artist of the Year."

I believe these awards are given based on votes, so I appreciate your
support in these matters. You don't have to be in Cincinnati or the
U.S. for that matter, as far as I know; you just need an email address.

Here are the nominees:
http://citybeat. com/cea/07pages/ music.html

Here's where to vote:
http://citybeat. com/phpq/ fillsurvey. php?sid=20

Also, for those who need more information, here is a recent interview
about Burning Star Core:
http://www.bodyspac e.net/entrevista s.php?ent_ id=213

Consider voting for "Wasteland Jazz Ensemble" for "Best Jazz Band"
too. What the ..??

Thanks!

*****

II.
Thursday OCTOBER 11th
@ ART DAMAGE LODGE
4122 Hamilton Ave
3rd Floor
Cincinnati, OH
9 PM / $5 / all ages

http://www.myspace. com/artdamagelod ge

Yellow Swans
http://www.jyrk. com/yellowswans/ news.htm

Mouthus
http://www.ecstatic peace.com/ artist.php? id=7

Sick Hour (Trevor and Robert from Hair Police/Eyes and Arms of
Smoke/BxC band)

C. Spencer Yeh (solo violin set)
http://www.myspace. com/cspenceryeh

Actually, yes.

You aren't by any chance living in the Cinci area are you?

weak

recently i have been very much enjoying the music of raionbashi, and any dylan nyoukis/karen constance/dora doll stuff i can get my hands on.
and i found this net label called lost frog that has a bunch of stuff to download for free
crossbred (japanese girl noise duo) http://www.lostfrog.net/releases/lf053mp3.html
smack music 7 (karen constance) http://www.lostfrog.net/artists/sm7.html