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The Labour party elected a Marxist dinosaur to lead them and now the party's in meltdown since the people decided to get out of the sinking Reich that is the EU. Had to laugh on reading about the ridiculous geek from England who wanted to assassinate Trump. Maybe he should've used one of the robots he bought from geek show Robot Wars.
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She's the voice of the corporate media, the transnational economy and the oligarchs. Americans are not first in her policy. Trump IS an oligarch. He seems to understand there is a moat around the castle for a reason. He seems to understand the international treaties like NAFTA are shit for americans. NAFTA helped a small, lets say 1%, get rich, while the rest of us scramble for shitty amazon corporation style shit jobs. |
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yes, i understand this. i do have a problem with hillary to a large extent. i have said this elsewhere--that the ascent of trump is fueled by the corporatocrat dismissal of popular concerns. these concerns are of course real, and both democrats and republicans have ignored them or swept them under the rug systematically. technology and globalization are destroying working- and middle-class jobs. this is a real issue no doubt. bernie sanders and trump both capitalized on this for their campaigns, trump won his side and bernie lost his. the reason bernie didn't win is not just that "hilary is evil" but that the democratic party has other factions and figures to address those problems. there is a large liberal wing. my money is on elizabeth warren being the new bernie. she's fucking great and has the right track record. the republicans on the other hand are a bunch of supply-side lunatics with a record of economic policy failure. you can't tax-cut your way into prosperity. look at the fucking kansas disaster. so, trump is practically the only one in his party to embrace this populist rage-- hence his victory. but if you think trump is going to be the true champion of the people, and save your job, you're fucking dreaming. he's just going to seduce you, use you, fuck you in the ass until he's satisfied, and then discard you, as he does with everything. just look at fucking trump university or his many bankrupt casinos. mega-fucking-swindle. he takes it to another level. when he fails to save you, as he's doomed to do, he's going to instead blame it on foreigners, minorities, other countries, losers, whatever, because he's constitutionally unable to accept responsibility for his many extensive fuckups. he'd rather tear the country apart than admit failure. in his mind he's always great and it's everybody else's fault and if he can't handle it he'll just quit and start trouble elsewhere. like his many bankrupt businesses. he'll fuel the flames of social strife, incite racial massacres, and leave your ass hanging over the abyss while he goes live in the cayman islands or whatever his jet takes him once the country descends into chaos. but okay, if you think he's a champion of the people and not an snake oil salesman of the worst kind then sure thing vote for him as it's your right. |
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No one is incorruptible. I've been a Warren fan for years, but lately I've become more realistic. She's human and therefore flawed, and it isn't unreasonable to think she might betray her ideals here and there when politically expedient. Watching her give a speech next to Hillary, I couldn't help but wonder how much Warren was suppressing. Would she rather debate Hillary or run with her? I couldn't help but wonder if (when?) Elizabeth Warren will let me down. Anyway, I have to wonder how the sudden burst of attention and applause has effected her personality. For most of her life she was unknown. Now she's famous. She used to be humble and sweet. I wonder if she is now insufferable around her friends. And she's my favorite politician! |
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right, she's a politician. by "right track record" i didn't mean that she's the holy lamb of god-- i mean her track record on the issues, like consumer protection, financial oversight, etc. her book on money saved my financial life, actually, way before she got into politics. ego issues--she was a professor. i can attest that standing in front of a crowd of people like an all-knowing demi-god is going to pump your ego. feels great! now her classroom just got bigger. but i don't care. also i don't care about her private life as long as she does good work for the public good. i'm not a puritan and have a high tolerance for sin. as for betraying ideals-- ideals are great, but idealists have no place in politics. those fuckers who never compromise also never get anything done. that, or they become tyrants in some fiefdom where they can impose their will and massacre the opposition. this is a massive country of 320 million people of the most diverse demographic composition you can find in the planet. there are 50 states, each with their own constitution and legislature, plus a number of territories with their own governments and traditions. and don't get me started about counties and municipalities. there is no fucking way to move this MASSIVE behemoth in any direction without incredible amounts of compromise and concession. |
So the question is: how much can she change before you stop liking her? And if she's going to compromise and concede too often, what's the point of liking her in the first place? I get the game of give and take, but will she someday support tax breaks for the wealthy because this creates more capital to build factories and create jobs? I don't know.
Maybe you've never strongly supported a politician who eventually let you down. Maybe I'm too cynical. She's changed in the past year or so. I don't know how to process it. I'm just being cautious in my cheer leading. |
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I never said "too often" or "to the polar opposite". I just said compromise is required in a democracy. More so in a mega-country. In practical terms, 51% Eros vs 49% Tanathos is all you need to stay alive. Quote:
If you look at DC enough you realize it doesn't work that way. She's old enough that she won't experience a sudden conversion now (though that rat bastard Joe Liebarman did it in deep geezerhood, so there's no guarantee). It's more like--instead of raising the estate tax by 5 points let's keep it as it is but in exchange you guarantee me to fund headstart. That sort of thing. Tit for tat. And if you're good at it you benefit your cause in the aggregate. You always win by points, not by knockout. Quote:
Ha ha ha ha ha ha! It's exactly the opposite. I've learned my lessons from disappointment. I'm a realist now. I know the limits. I've also lived under tyranny so I appreciate this system warts and all. Lastly I once got involved in local politics and saw how things really work--everyone wants something, everybody pulls in their own direction, and you have to negotiate and navigate that. It's ugly and it takes a certain type of person to enjoy it. Quote:
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Are you talking about her public persona or about her policy positions? Was she "for it before she was against it," or something? I'm not saying she hasn't changed, just would like to hear something substantial. |
Her fiery denunciation of Trump. Obviously she's not wrong, but her snarky tone caught me off guard. The old Elizabeth would've been above such things. She's a damn fine mudslinger, but I'm surprised she slings mud at all.
Policy-wise, I have actually been a little afraid to dig into her Senate record, so no substance for you! Why, has she done something laudable in her time in the Senate? Look, I like her fine. If she's the VP pick I might even get off my ass and canvass. It's just that you wrote how much you liked her ("She's fucking great") and I thought, perhaps patronizingly, "Oh no. I hope he doesn't get his heart broken." And I'm also thinking, "Yeah, I think she's fucking great too, but maybe I shouldn't think that about any politician." Quote:
Funny. I went to school with someone who became a state rep. I used to smoke pot with the guy! Oh, the righteous rants he'd go on. Needless to say, his voting record doesn't reflect any of that. I saw him after he was on the job for a while and it was obvious that the Real Him the Representative Him were two different people. I gave him shit. And yes, he explained he had to do this to get that. What's weird is he said how he wasn't expecting this and how much he hated it, how the job of politics had made him cynical about politics. Yet he ran again and won. I'm guessing that in his mind, the position went from a "calling" to a "job," and doesn't nearly every job have its drawbacks? |
another ISIL bloodbath in Turkey
the narrative works perfect for Trump - regardless of who the attackers are The Middle East is the great foreign policy failure of the Obama Administration - its almost like the President was set up to fail. [durn it I just missed my 5000th post] |
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I actually love that she stands up to the bully. There's a time to be meek and there's a time to be tough. Nobody wants a meek fucking leader. I want a leader who can kick the enemy's ass. Actually in New Mexico we have this shitbird governor Susana Martinez who beat her Democrat opponent because (in my opinion) the stupid Democrat presented herself as some benevolent abuelita giving hugs to the poor. Seriously, she had a commercial hugging some poor people like she was the Virgin Mary or something. HORRIBLE. I won't look up that video but here's a basic photo: Winner left, loser right: A warrior for the poor would have been much better than a hospice nurse. The repuke claimed to stand up against corruption. This is her second term. So-- I love to see Warren battering the shit out of bullyboy Trump. SHE'S GREAT. Quote:
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it's not the person, but what they stand for. she's not a yellow dog democrat. she has a long history of looking out for the middle class, or should i say, trying to keep people in it. she used to run a financial counseling center i believe when she was a prof. she championed bankruptcy protection since way before she was a politician-- that was her area of research. she's the architect of the consumer protection bureau (she was blocked by repukes from running it). she wrote the best/easiest/smartest personal finance book there is-- she's really smart, not just charismatic. Quote:
speaking of which-- i love how elizabeth warren does a great job of making trump foam at the mouth SHE'S GREAT |
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The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau has also been under fire from within the Democratic Party — specifically from Debbie Fuckin' Wasserman Schultz: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...b03260bf77e8fc Considering DWS has been so closely linked to Hillary Clinton, it was great for me to hear from HRC herself a couple of weeks ago that she's standing by the CFPB. Wasserman Schultz has to GO. |
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"When Trump announced his candidacy, on June 16th, he vowed to build a two-thousand-mile-long wall to stop Mexico from “sending people that have lots of problems.” He said, “They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.” Three of the statements had no basis in fact—the crime rate among first-generation immigrants is lower than that for native-born Americans" This is the corporate media being disingenuous. Trump is not talking about legal immigrants. He's talking about the people who come over the border illegally. He's not talking about first generation immigrants. the MSM is running scared! |
from the same article
"To inhabit Trump’s landscape for a while, to chase his jet or stay behind with his fans in a half-dozen states, is to encounter a confederacy of the frustrated—less a constituency than a loose alliance of Americans who say they are betrayed by politicians, victimized by a changing world, and enticed by Trump’s insurgency. " A big fan here in western Oregon is a woman who lost her business which provided actual teachers in science, math, etc to assist the many Xtian home schoolers who do such an abysmal job of educating their many progeny. Her bitterness was caused by the fact that she lost the business due to stealing retirement funds from her employees. I think that's a typical trumpian, angry rather than contrite. |
religion will be the death of us all.
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fuck you undocumented people's kids aren't all drug dealing rapists either and no one is scared of trump indeed quite the opposite its clear trump and his pussy ass "supporters" are the ones that are afraid. |
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As it stands, the Vermont senator has almost vanished from the news cycle, overshadowed by Clinton’s growing lead, overall Democratic unity, global events, and the never-ending emissions of Donald Trump. He’ll still matter to the shape and direction of the Democratic National Convention, but he could have had a larger, more visible role. Bernie Sanders had his shot, and he threw it away.
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It's the greatest failure of his entire administration in any area. To pick one example: If he had a pair of foreign policy balls, Assad would be gone. Instead, he draws a "red line" then backtracks. What a dumbfuck. Either carry out the threat or don't make it in the first place. Lots of other bizarre choices. Domestically the US is better off than 8 years ago. Foreign, at best it's a tie. |
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Assad was friendly to the US after 9/11, provided some torture sites if I'm not mistaken, and he is unfathomably wealthy AND connected deeply - he's not an Aristide to be kidnapped by US Marines and dumped off in Africa. Like Noriega and Saddam and Castro - he knows where the bodies lie, so to speak. There is a youtube video we used to look at, at work, to motivate us, of some female Syrian Army cadets biting the heads off snakes in a fury of patriotic passion. It is a little country but not easily fucked with. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlqaR68lVFE I guess they could put Assad on the Tree of Woe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2EQ0FlVks4 |
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Why do you not just admit you're a racist? |
http://www.commondreams.org/news/201...ti-tpp-measure
These people are totally arrogant and probably know they have the voting software under control. In the USA, we're not allowed to bring a pen. If Clinton continues to support the TPP, Trump should win by a landslide. The globalists are oblivious to the deep loathing and desperation of most of the US. To any of the Americans who read this, look around you and ask yourself of that you own or wear - if anything - what was manufactured in the USA. I realized the other day at Grand Central looking around at the hundreds of colorful pod monkeys that all the clothes and pods are manufactured in other countries. I could identify nothing as made in the USA. And from my understanding of economics, it does matter. |
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haha how is Trump not a "globalist" when he is part of the same multinationalist tax dodging outsourcing corporate slime? how does Trump in anyway represent, understand, or speak for the "deep loathing and desperation" of many Americans? oh that is right "Republicans" naively believe the big corporations and wealthy elites are the common man's heroic savior ;) |
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Because it is a misuse of language. I am not a racist. I am prejudiced from experiences. What part of misanthropy do you not get. Most all people are shit. Let me say it again: MOST PEOPLE ARE SHIT A black person once told me Racism is structural and institutional, not individual. in general, things between the races were going pretty good into the aught years, and then suddenly we're all racists. Everything is RACIST RACIST RACIST. Well, a lot is in bad taste but its not white people standing around saying niggah niggah niggah every other word. Oh, and you just woke up and and read about on Facebook the Prison-Industrial Complex we've been screaming about since the 90's? I guess when I wrote to the Commissioner of the Chicago Police Department demanding back in 1993 that he stop the torture of prisoners and stop promoting the cops who did the torture I was being racist? It was black men that the Chicago police tortured. It was satisfying a couple years ago to see the cops get persecuted, but they got away for with it for decades. Yup, that's what racists do alright, they write letters to the police and tell them to stop torturing black men. I think still have the letter they sent back to me, they of course take human rights very seriously does the Chicago Police dept they surely do the letter even says so. |
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yeah wtf uppity minorities how dare you complain about experienced abuses, police brutality, and systematic discrimination, particularly exasperated by the economic collapse in mid2000s.. Quote:
haha oh no not a stern letter, that will teach them. |
The thing is, you can't pull all that half-bothered shit on people while making horrendous remarks about who pissed you off in the past. That doesn't make you an intelligent being, it makes you a coward. Misanthrope? At least have the balls to be one.
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Oh Lawd please let this be the GOP's ticket:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...b0a629c1a91c0c ![]() EDIT: Or Newt! Both repulsive enough! https://news.google.com/news/rtc?ncl=dhFGM1sE6a32iQMbi2HlcL2YFxLkM&authuser=0&t opic=n&siidp=226524fa2b9379e872a6c913f5d1c2f26af6 |
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Personally, I'm hoping Drump will pick Sarah "Me Stupid" Palin. Using Drump's "thought process", she's a real asset that the cowardly POW John McCain was too much of a loser to exploit properly. I'm praying he'll choose her. That would guarantee a Drump loss in November. |
tesla is the one who got racially discriminated against first
but hes getting ganged up on by white people who think racism is only something their race is capable of. and round and round it goes |
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haha where? |
The Don must be working with someone, in this speech from Jun 30 he sounds much clearer and presidential. It is clear he is not against globalism but he wants the US to be at the top of the heap.
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i haven't seen the video but if what you say is true maybe they just changed his prescription http://gawker.com/rumor-doctor-presc...eed-1782901680 |
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I don't even know what you're talking about now. |
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Welcome to your own posts. When you're not being blatantly racist. |
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'they' don't want you to listen to Trump's message anymore than 'they' wanted you to hear Sanders' message, or will permit a Libertarian or Green voice to be heard by debating them, etc. Trump kept saying how smart the Mexican leaders and Chinese leaders are to make these great deals - and what a disaster the TPP will be - how these bills are never even read by Congress -all stuff I've moaned about for years to no effect. He is going to fix the deals - he didn't say he was going to scrap them - he would enact tariffs. He conceded that things would cost a little more, but the jobs would be here because we'd be making them here. Americans are incredibly naive. the fucking corporate technocrats have made this country so fucking easy to destroy with their obsession with remote entry - obviously dumb like when the MTA allowed cell phone emitters in the train stations this ensures the terrorist bombs can be effectively activated - the other thing is the MTA seems to hate any open area that someone might be able to stand in for a moment out of the rush so they've been building all these shoddy plywood closet type things that would make great bomb stashes. Drop it off at 3 am and then make the call at 8:30 at rush hour. Destroy the subway and you destroy New York City. |
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You're really dedicated to the word racist, aren't you, and you don't understand it. If mentioning race in a factual situation makes one racist, then so it goes. If not fawning over Michael Brown is the reason for your dedication, then so it goes |
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