My two cents, as if it matters. Nas only has one full album more like an ep Illmatic that is all good material. Every track on that album is hot, the thing with Nas is he admited on a vibe interview or The Source, I forgot which of the magazines I read it in. That @ the Source awards he was wearing a Gap T & Biggie was looking paid so he went with a more crowd pleasing rap style with I Am. Live in the BBQ on the Main Source is hot shit & Nas's first apperance. But he sold out & went mainstream. Look @ that shit he did with Puffy, White furs yeah!!!! Their if equally good albums to Illmati if not better in hip hop. I was listening to nas when the fucker came out the production on Illmatic is hot ass well Q-Tip, Primier, Large Profesor, & L.E.S. But that was the last good entire album I heard not only that it was 45 min. long. & as far as Dylan is concerned Tom Foolery (hahaha) No comparison ever!!! Put nas up against Jay-Z or Mos Def even then I think Kool Kieth with slaughter them all!!

Nas up in this piece, mutherfuck Hayden Ashe! Short arms and deep pockets, kna' mean? Ya'll are TROLLS (apart from the people that agree with me), the rest of ya'll are NUMB-FUCKING-NUTZ!

- I bet the VAST majority of people who responded to this post never listened to any of the Nas tracks I mentioned (or the one I posted). So fuck you all and your ingrained racism.

Listen to POS. His lyrics are far greater than Nas' lyrics.

You are a racist, though, Kegmama. It's impossible to dislike one single rap artist and not be a racist.

Hmm.....

I'm not a liberal. Some of my best friends are far-right neo-nazis.

Good for you.

I'm not a liberal. I am a far-right neo-nazis.

Do I win the biggest cock competition?

seriously, quasimoto (madlib's best work) is great and everything but saying madlib is better than nas is just idiotic, madlib has never and never will make a record of the calibre of illmatic, his lyrics are entertaining but he's a beat maker, he's not by any stretch of the imagination a lyricist on a par with nas. it's a shame nas never will reach the heights of his first album again either though.

anyway, for the record, i agree with the guy who started this thread. speaking for myself, biggie and nas, or any of the best rappers have far more intricate, inventive and interesting lyrics than bob dylan. bob dylan's music has never struck a chord with me though.

this arguement has gone on too long for me to be that bothered to join in, but it is further confirmation, as if any were needed, that most people on this board have absolutely no clue about music.

In the words of Tim Westwood: EXACTLY!

Like I've been saying, the rhyme patterns and sentence structures of the best rappers are far more complex than those of the best rock lyricists. Thats not to say that rappers are more intelligent (although, they are by no means on average less intelligent) - its just that hip hop as a genre of music lends itself better to more intricate lyrics.

For what its worth though, I think that, musically, rock is better than rap. Its also a better canvas for expressing certain emotions (e.g. anger and alienation with grunge)

I had a hard time with hip-hop for a long time. I didn't really get it. I came from a 'rock' background. When it finally clicked it was great. Because, unlike rock, and as Ted 'best new poster for ages' Kennedy says, hip-hop lends itself to intricate lyrics... because there isn't much happening musically. You get the ocassional exciting beat, but mostly the lyrics are the main focus, becuase the 'music', as it were, is generally repetitive and a-melodic. And yes, I do think hip-hop generally has better lyrics. Dylan's rhyming scheme is VERY take it or leave it, Nas' (and many other people's) 'rhyming scheme' is generally more diverse than your average rock musician.

Westwood, in spite of being the world's largest prick, is a national hero.

I find Biggie and Nas to be terrible. Especially Nas. I know Madlib's lyrics are silly but I enjoy him more than someone talking about selling crack. POS is far greater lyrically than Nas or Biggie. I hate Dylan btw.