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Glice 08.11.2010 05:21 PM

http://depositfiles.com/en/files/zp29qi8ll

This is Lachenmann's Gran Torso quartet available for download. The guy has also included the score. It's a genuinely amazing score, even if you don't read music it's worth looking at. I'm thinking of putting together a load of these sorts of scores that are aesthetically pleasing for a mate's amusement, may upload it here when I do so.

From this blog which has a lot of similar stuff (music + score). Well worth a gander, plus Chrome's translator seems to not be doing too bad a job.

Glice 08.13.2010 09:28 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziQjykdLDVU

AMAZING.

shabbray2.0 08.13.2010 09:33 AM

would this be the right place to post Hans Zimmers Mombasa Live Performance (from the inception preimiere)?
cause the thread Ive opened for it, clearly failed to attract to anyone.

anyways:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0r0aDfW2UM

I am still stunned by it

Green_mind 08.13.2010 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Glice


class! I love tuned percussion, my eyes were opened to it for the first time watching 'young musicians of the year' one time, amazing stuff.

Quote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0r0aDfW2UM

I am still stunned by it

Is that noel gallagher on guitar? haha

shabbray2.0 08.13.2010 10:18 AM

hahaha no its johnny marr (the smiths)
I am glad that the collabo didnt turn out be the same old rock meets orchestra shit

Glice 08.13.2010 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by shabbray2.0
hahaha no its johnny marr (the smiths)
I am glad that the collabo didnt turn out be the same old rock meets orchestra shit


It is pretty dire though - it all sounds like a massive synthesiser. Which would be interesting, if it weren't bog-standard 'dramatic' film music. [/bitch mood]

shabbray2.0 08.13.2010 10:42 AM

I totally get what you mean. and for me it could be even more sythesizer, haha
but what I really dig about the tune are the chord progressions. it moves me in a way I havent been moved in a long time. even if that sounds ridiculous
it sounds like you will have the fight of your life. I dont wanna hot the spot with german composers and how they sound "dramatic" hrhrhr

demonrail666 08.13.2010 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by shabbray2.0



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Originally Posted by Glice
It is pretty dire though - it all sounds like a massive synthesiser. Which would be interesting, if it weren't bog-standard 'dramatic' film music. [/bitch mood]


It's a really good soundtrack but I wouldn't say it stands up particularly well as a piece of music in its own right. When fused with the visuals of Inception it works really well; providing another layer of impact to what's going on on-screen. I can listen to it without the film because I've already had that fusion imprinted in my mind from when I did watch it. I'm not sure what I'd think about it otherwise, though.

demonrail666 08.13.2010 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by shabbray2.0
what I really dig about the tune are the chord progressions. it touches me in a way I havent been touched in a long time. even if that sounds ridiculous


There's a chord progression in there which is really amazing, and it always reminds me of (without being the same as) one that John Carpenter used in his soundtrack to Halloween. Not the main 'riff' but the chords played behind it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWTD-nXadaI

shabbray2.0 08.13.2010 11:01 AM

^^thanks for that link.
its funny cause somehow mombasa really reminded me of some carpenter work. but I couldnt nail it.


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Originally Posted by demonrail666
It's a really good soundtrack but I wouldn't say it stands up particularly well as a piece of music in its own right. When fused with the visuals of Inception it works really well; providing another layer of impact to what's going on on-screen. I can listen to it without the film because I've already had that fusion imprinted in my mind from when I did watch it. I'm not sure what I'd think about it otherwise, though.



Ive asked myself too regarding this. and I came to the conclusion that mombasa is the only one that works without the movie in mind. like I mentioned in the mombasa thread before, the chord progression where dicaprio is running away, has stolen me attention for a few seconds from the movie, while being in the cinema.

Ive read some articles where they compare inception//the OST as the next Blade Runner.
and thats where I disagree. Inception was more succesful on Day one then BR in its whole lifespan I think. also the OST doesnt stand against Vangelis beautiful (pioneering) work at the beginning of the 80ies, imo.

demonrail666 08.13.2010 11:32 AM

I can see why people are comparing it with BR but I agree, they're very different, largely because Zimmer is a very different composer than Vangelis. The chord progression in Mombassa is awesome, I totally agree, but it definitely suggests some kind of visual in a way that Vangelis' stuff (whether OSTs or otherwise) often don't. In that sense, I think Zimmer creates the better soundtracks while Vangelis is perhaps the better all-round composer.

shabbray2.0 08.13.2010 11:45 AM

yeah I can see the parallels too. zimmer "quoted" the BR signature Bras/Synth sound on at least one tune. and the overall feel is in general pretty laid back. the work I know from zimmer is overall way more percussion, and I agree thats one of the reasons why he is such a good visual composer, cause he is really good at creating tension with that.

all in all I couldnt agree more on your post

demonrail666 08.13.2010 12:22 PM

I think my favourite Vangelis soundtrack is Chariots of Fire, especially the piece he composed for this scene. It's very simple and only comes in about half-way through, but it perfectly compliments the visuals, while at the same time somehow capturing the religious motivations of the character it's soundtracking. Brilliant!

full track: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2un1I162dw

My favourite non-OST Vangelis piece is this though, at least from about a minute in. I remember hearing it as the sun came up during a rave, E'd off my face. One of the greatest musical moments of my entire life.

shabbray2.0 08.13.2010 12:51 PM

oh yes, china is brilliant in its whole.
I wish I could have experienced it when it was released. must have been mind bending.

I know the OST to chariots of fire, but I never saw the movie. its high on my list to do so in the near future, even if its just to see the OST in action.

damn I am totally hooked on chung kuo, for now.
the main theme is DANG!

demonrail666 08.13.2010 01:17 PM

Yeah, you can't argue with Chung Kuo. I heard it at that rave quite a bit after it first came out but it was the first time I'd actually heard it. Either way, brilliant.

You really should see CoF. It get's a bit of stick from a lot of people but parts of it just blow me away and the overall fusion of sound and image that runs throughout it, really is quite amazing.

shabbray2.0 08.14.2010 03:29 AM

yes I will do. Ive seen the intro on youtube at the very moment featuring THE chariots of Fire song and it looked and sounded perfect. when the film goes this way I will definately enjoy it.

I found a onine copy of antarctica, looking forward to see it on a train ride hopefully today

Glice 01.10.2011 06:30 AM

If I ever get my copy back from my ex-housemate, I'll up it for you.

Luca Franscesconi, a young Italian composer, is doing it for me at the moment. He's a bit post-Nono but not entirely dry. Good times.

Mortte Jousimo 01.10.2011 06:58 AM

I love some Russian composers. Mussorgsky is my favorite, but I like also lot Rimsky-Korsakov and Tschaikovsky. Of course Finnish Sibelius is great. About the other classical composers I listen Beethoven (third and ninth symphony is just great) and Brahms. I have few other classical works as Vivaldi´s Four seasons, some Mozart and some Shubert. Holst Planets are just great, but does it belongs into new art music?

Glice 01.10.2011 08:17 AM

Holst's planets if much more in the grand symphonic/ tone poem tradition of late romantic, I'd say (if there is a distinction to be made). He's certainly not the measure of R Strauss. I got his Electra recently, fucking phenomenal work that is.

The Earl Of Slander 01.10.2011 04:30 PM

I'm absolutely obsessed with Schnittke's fourth violin concerto right now. Specifically the Kremer recording on Elektra. Absolutely unbelievably good. The Russians are indeed fucking badass.


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