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Severian 06.25.2013 08:01 PM

The new Neil Gaiman, Ocean at the End of the Lane.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 06.25.2013 09:08 PM


 


This is great. I like Umberto Eco, a blend of religious themed and historical fiction, combining all my favorite boring subjects into novel format. The Name of the Rose is better, but this has been a great read so far. Interestingly it connects Byzantine Orthodox beef with Latin Catholics, something I am a bit familiar with as an Orthodox Christian ;)


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Originally Posted by Severian
The new Neil Gaiman, Ocean at the End of the Lane.


Wait. NEW Neil Gaiman? I want it. Is it epic
like American Gods or just OK like Anansi Boys?

Either way I have to order it right away!!

Severian 06.27.2013 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
 


This is great. I like Umberto Eco, a blend of religious themed and historical fiction, combining all my favorite boring subjects into novel format. The Name of the Rose is better, but this has been a great read so far. Interestingly it connects Byzantine Orthodox beef with Latin Catholics, something I am a bit familiar with as an Orthodox Christian ;)



Wait. NEW Neil Gaiman? I want it. Is it epic
like American Gods or just OK like Anansi Boys?

Either way I have to order it right away!!


Dude, of course there's a new Neil Gaiman. It is, disappointingly, only 193 pages or something... It's also completely separate from American Gods as far as I can tell, and though it feels almost like a more stylized, clever take on a children's book, it's one of the scariest things he's ever written. I'm taking it very slow, especially because it's so short, so I may be off in the long run, but despite its nostalgic childhood narrative, it has malevolent overtone that makes it a very tense and anxious read. My god, what that man can do with words.

Anyway, of course it's got a mythological foundation (I think) but this time it seems closer to Pagan faerie than to any of the more obvious cultural myths and archetypes seen in American Gods and Anansi Boys. Like a cautionary tale a Pagan mother might tell her children to horrify them out of doing something naughty.

You and I seem to have similar I interests. Did you know that (according to Goodreads, and some other super credible sources?) there is an entire sub-sub genre of science fiction/fantasy/historical fiction that is completely devoted to theologically themed realist allegories, with some supernatural and/or heavily speculative element?

I too love religion and history, but psychology and cognitive/behavioral science, shot through a prism of speculation, is the big kicker for me. So this genre, which includes books by authors ranging from Gaiman, Gene Wolfe, China Mieville, to Dan Brown (yeah, I know), Susanna Clarke, Gordon Dahlquist, and
Tom Wolfe. I wish I remembered it's name. Theological Science Fiction sounds really awful, so having a cool sub-pop name works for me.

demonrail666 06.29.2013 08:57 AM

Howdy stranger!

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The Fallout. Andrew Anthony

Anyone who's read and liked Nick Cohen's What's Left? should love this.

demonrail666 06.29.2013 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
 


This is great. I like Umberto Eco, a blend of religious themed and historical fiction, combining all my favorite boring subjects into novel format. The Name of the Rose is better, but this has been a great read so far. Interestingly it connects Byzantine Orthodox beef with Latin Catholics, something I am a bit familiar with as an Orthodox Christian ;)



I loved Name of the Rose but got about 3/4 of the way into Foucault's Pendulum before realising I didn't have the foggiest idea what was going on. I'll give Baudolini a go though.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 06.29.2013 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Severian
Dude, of course there's a new Neil Gaiman. It is, disappointingly, only 193 pages or something... It's also completely separate from American Gods as far as I can tell, and though it feels almost like a more stylized, clever take on a children's book, it's one of the scariest things he's ever written. I'm taking it very slow, especially because it's so short, so I may be off in the long run, but despite its nostalgic childhood narrative, it has malevolent overtone that makes it a very tense and anxious read. My god, what that man can do with words.

Anyway, of course it's got a mythological foundation (I think) but this time it seems closer to Pagan faerie than to any of the more obvious cultural myths and archetypes seen in American Gods and Anansi Boys. Like a cautionary tale a Pagan mother might tell her children to horrify them out of doing something naughty.


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Books written for teenagers are often authors' best works. I think Clive Barkers works for children and teenagers are BETTER than his adult novels. I like that they are more concise, and yet also less graphic. They let your imagination do the heavy lifting, more insinuation and hinting than revealing the horror. Imajica is epic, but I really have enjoyed these Abarat books. While I didn't like Anasi Boys better than American Gods, I didn't think it was particularly better written, so I expect that kind of style in this one. 200 pages are better for me. I have a short attention span for novels, there are a dozen I have put down at the half way point because after two or three days I lose interest.

When I realized that American Gods was really just a grief story, it all clicked. He was just holding on too long, the way MOST of us make our lives tragic by holding on to a dream, a fear, or a love longer than its worth.

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Originally Posted by demonrail666
I loved Name of the Rose but got about 3/4 of the way into Foucault's Pendulum before realising I didn't have the foggiest idea what was going on. I'll give Baudolini a go though.




Baudolino is a bit lengthy, but its actually fucking hilarious! Name of the Rose was more spooky, a great thriller.

h8kurdt 06.30.2013 06:25 AM

 


Currently hammering my way through this book. Just brilliant. That's all you need to know.

demonrail666 06.30.2013 06:45 AM

I absolutely love boxing from that era. I actually have a load of videos of old Hearns, Hagler, Duran fights that I recorded off the TV as a kid. Hagler especially is one of my all-time sporting heroes. I've never seen a book that focuses solely on that period so I've just ordered it off Amazon. Thanks!!!!

h8kurdt 06.30.2013 07:04 AM

Must spread love before giving again etc.

demonrail666 06.30.2013 07:17 AM

Likewise. And if you haven't already seen it, try and check out the DVD, Fabulous Four, which profiles the same era. You'll love it.

pony 06.30.2013 09:17 AM

 

Severian 06.30.2013 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
Books written for teenagers are often authors' best works. I think Clive Barkers works for children and teenagers are BETTER than his adult novels. I like that they are more concise, and yet also less graphic. They let your imagination do the heavy lifting, more insinuation and hinting than revealing the horror. Imajica is epic, but I really have enjoyed these Abarat books. While I didn't like Anasi Boys better than American Gods, I didn't think it was particularly better written, so I expect that kind of style in this one. 200 pages are better for me. I have a short attention span for novels, there are a dozen I have put down at the half way point because after two or three days I lose interest.

[b]When I realized that American Gods was really just a grief story, it all clicked. He was just holding on too long, the way MOST of us make our lives tragic by holding on to a dream, a fear, or a love longer than its worth. [b]



Sir, have you ever read The Stars My Destination

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 07.18.2013 07:11 PM

Jules Verne The Mysterious Island.

Its pretty good. I'm reading faster than usual, because I seem to be absorbing faster. I've only read a few books this fast, like The Ruins or the novel version of 30 Days of Night.

Baudolino? It was cool, had a fantastic Umberto Ego style twist at the end, but it should have been a hundred pages shorter. It was like a cross between 100 Years of Solitude, Canterbury Tales, and Clive Barker's Imajica. Decent medieval themed psychedelic fantasy blended with historical fiction, however and again, a bit to lengthy..

dead_battery 07.18.2013 07:17 PM

my goodreads page is here

go look at how smarter i am than you

LifeDistortion 07.20.2013 08:55 PM

Raffles:The Amateur Cracksman- It's quite good.

Rob Instigator 07.22.2013 08:07 AM

 

Severian 07.22.2013 09:17 PM

Nice, Rob!

Severian 07.22.2013 09:21 PM

The Ocean at the End of the Lane was so good it made me cry. Really light writing for Gaiman, at least in length... but man that guy has a way of making your teeth curl. How he comes up with some of his imagery without excessive psychotropic drug use is beyond me. There's also some heartwarming shit, f yr into that kind of thing.

schizophrenicroom 08.13.2013 01:35 AM

& sons, david gilbert

Severian 08.13.2013 06:06 PM

 


... Grudgingly, though. I don't like being sucked into these soon to be cinematic abortions, especially being a late-comer. It's obviously a first "novel," but there is a sense of classic science fiction tension that reminds me of the '60s and '70s writing I enjoy so much. It is hard to put down, I'll give it that.. But it only takes a few chapters before its literary influences become painfully clear.

I'm really just filling the space between, here. I plan on re-reading Bradbury's Greentown trilogy here soon, and I recently finished the new Gaiman, which lead to an enjoyable umpteenth time through all the old Gaiman I have. Never where seems to be losing some of its menace, but mostly, the oldies are holding up well for Mr. Amanda Palmer.

tesla69 08.21.2013 01:16 PM

Attack on the Liberty by James Scott

USS Liberty down the memory hole

Toilet & Bowels 08.21.2013 01:30 PM

I started reading Star Maker by Olaf Stapledon, about 40 pages in and it's not really grabbing me.

Rob Instigator 08.21.2013 01:30 PM

Finished this.
 

Rob Instigator 08.21.2013 01:32 PM

Starting this
 

Rob Instigator 08.22.2013 12:55 PM

 

dale_gribble 08.22.2013 02:50 PM

 

Bertrand 08.31.2013 03:48 AM

Just finished Boy Heaven by Laura Kasischke, and loved it so much I'll read more of her stuff, starting with the not-so-much-talked-about to keep the best for the end, and I'll track her poetry too.

_tunic_ 08.31.2013 06:51 AM

 

Keeping It Simple 08.31.2013 07:20 AM

Philip K. Dick novels. So far I've read Flow My Tears, The Policeman Said and The Penultimate Truth. At the moment I'm reading The 3 Stigmata Of Palmer Eldritch. All brilliant reads.

pony 09.02.2013 12:10 AM

 

Trama 09.02.2013 05:35 AM

 

Toilet & Bowels 09.03.2013 03:33 AM

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I really enjoyed that book.

Rob Instigator 09.05.2013 01:13 PM

 


Great, exhaustive study into Michel de Nostredame, and the deluded cult of personality that evolved around his quatrains. He never predicted jack fucking shit.

whorefrost 09.05.2013 01:38 PM

The Skating Rink by Roberto Bolaño. Enjoying it.

Recently finished -

Donald Antrim - Hundred Brothers, Elect Mr Robinson for a Better World
Ben Marcus - The Flame Alphabet
Tao Lin - Taipei

All highly recommended. Got some James Kelman and Alasdair Gray lined up next.

Rob Instigator 09.12.2013 09:10 AM

 


Awesome.

tesla69 09.12.2013 11:05 AM

Putin's oped - no wonder the neocons are crying like infants without their rattles, he sounds like a world leader and recites facts they would like to hide.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/12/op...yria.html?_r=0

pony 09.16.2013 10:54 PM

about to read a shitload about feminism and television.
i also have to read a book about sex and the city.... um, has anyone read good interviews about hbo's "Girls"? if you could scan/link them i'd love you forever...

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 09.16.2013 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by tesla69
Putin's oped - no wonder the neocons are crying like infants without their rattles, he sounds like a world leader and recites facts they would like to hide.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/12/op...yria.html?_r=0




Dude, usually its foreverasskiss that posts drunkenly stupid statements, Putin? sounding like a world leader? Recites facts?

 

Rob Instigator 09.19.2013 11:28 AM

Finished up the Dictionary of Common Fallacies and now moving on to this
 


Houdini's book about how he spent 25+ years investigating the claims of mediums and seances and Spiritualism. he found nothing but self-deluded crackpots, and wilfully malicious con-artists. Nothing changes. shit don;t change.

any and all churches are no different from the "gypsy" fortune teller setting up shop in her home
 


The police should send the Bunco squad after all the churches just like they do the psychic rip-off artistes

dead_battery 09.19.2013 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
Dude, usually its foreverasskiss that posts drunkenly stupid statements, Putin? sounding like a world leader? Recites facts?

 


neo cons love pooty poot. he turned russia into the authoritarian gangsta capitalist greed hole they've come to know and love!


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