prolly just mad cuz she ugly

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that I'd trust Rob with my sister.

I'm not sure I'd trust my sister with Rob, though. She's freaky about brown guys, from south of the US border. Why? "Because they have culture". Unlike white guys.

Nobody that you know... Statistics show that most people don't even know what rape IS. We had an example in this thread of someone saying that he thinks sexual assault only happens when harm is done to the body. There are great misconceptions about this.

There are plenty of cases, and most studies about this are from the US, about how victims are actually the ones who get judged during the process. Their clothing, sexual behavior, drinking habits... everything is analysed in a really humiliating process, where conviction is a minority of the cases.

Many factors get into that: while young women and women who have been raped by strangers have better chances, prostitutes or married women who have been raped by their husbands have basically no chance of winning.

Most women who are murdered are killed by a partner, while that is rare for men. In many cases, they have already reported abuse or threat before but aren't given enough protection.

This has everything to do with the cultural notion of a woman as an object.

By educating people about what objetification really means and how it helps the perpetuation of violence against women, I can hope for them to confront certain embedded notions and become better people to the women in their lives.

This is important in an age where violence against women is alarmingly on the rise.

You don't have the right to decide what's worthy of doing.

No, Rob, I'm trying to explain to you how you can help.
But you don't seem to want to know.
You're just in denial and being defensive.

I can talk personally, of course, because I'm a woman.
And I actually have to deal with the reality of that every day of my life in a way that you don't know.

You'd have to be a real jerk to think that pregnant women cutting queues is some sort of privilege, like our pal implied.
Maybe we should allow anyone who's put for going through this to jump it, I would let these boys go ahead of me:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/yourcommunity...h-tv-show.html

I help every day knox. You do not know. You are only reading a few short words posted on a forum, and inferring a whole mess of stuff based upon it, or what you perceive as my character.

I'm telling you how you can help more, with the littlest of things.
But you don't seem interested, and that's sad, but not unusual.
I'm sorry to tell you this, but most men react the exact same way when told these things.
It's hard to face privileges that we take for granted and actually realise that they are privileges.

I'm not talking about your character.
I'm talking about things most people do without realising it, because they are products of their environment and upbringing.
But this environment has to be changed, and the things that seem so "natural" to us need to be challenged to make that happen.

I guess Austin is full of jerks.

I'm the type of guy who'd offer my place before I'm even asked (see previous post about opening doors). I'm sure someone could feel slighted by that, but I'll be damned if I ever stop being hyper-polite.

as i've said before, distancing myself from your totalitarian position on censorhip, you can say whatever the hell you want on the internet (even if it makes some people sad). but rather than educate as you wish to do, you rant and pontificate and alienate.

your stated agenda is a fine and worthy one, your methods on the other hand are pure shit and ultimately damaging to your cause.

You can only "educate" people who are willing to listen.

Also, it's sexist in itself for you to dictate my methods.
I don't have to be nice and sweet to people whose first reaction to everything I say is to ridicule and belittle me, when they clearly don't do it to males saying the same thing as I am.

This is coming from a man who made sexist comments about me being a woman and drinking, as if drinking without having your character questioned is the privilege of men.

There's a sexist double standard there.
And I have no obligation to be nice to people who aren't nice to me.

Also, in my experience, I have to ring my warning bells whenever a man is quick to ridicule, insult and use bad words towards a woman who questions him. Life has taught me that's not a good sign.

You don't have to appreciate my methods because, once again, it's not about you.

Also, there's a loophole in your mansplaining tactics: on one hand you imply I'm acting like a "victim" by speaking up, on the other hand you try to imply I'm being an "angry bitch" for pressing on it without stopping or fearing your negative reactions.

Also, it's not "damaging" to my cause because you're here, you care enough to have a reaction about it, you are getting bothered about it, so I must be touching the right spot.

Jesus Christ Knox, I was being sarcastic.

that's why capable educators train themselves in the art of persuading people to listen instead of hurling insults at their audience and demanding said audience "listens"



this is as ridiculous statement as it gets because it implies the double idiocy that a) you can do no wrong, and b) one gender is not allowed to notice when you do wrong


i ridicule everyone equally. ask anyone! suchfriends can tell you a few stories...



i don't recall this but i do remember you liked to drink alone in front of the computer, which is something i find generally objectionable and the province of alcoholics


bitter drunks aren't gender-specific



and the reverse is true. which is why you're not an "educator".


like i said before, i'm an equal-opportunity asshole, which means that when i see shit i call shit regardless of the source.

Hard to tell anymore when so many people have being saying similar shit or worse without being sarcastic. Let's do sarcasm some other time.
Sort of a funny mood today.

since when it's your business whether someone's an alcoholic?
and since when that should invalidate anyone's point?

i actually remember quite well how you made specific remarks about WOMEN drinking.

equal opportunities, it really doesn't seem that way.
i'm not an educator, i'm a proper fucking bitch.
i'm not here to pet anybody until they insult me until they decide to "allow" me to say something.
you're an asshole to me, i'm an asshole back.

this whole bullshit about "i'm all for equal rights" so i'm going to ignore every social inequality about race, gender, class, origin, sexual orientation as i go though life as the level playing field is equal is REALLY OLD NOW.

like i said, you should stop borrowing arguments from conservative republicans.

next thing you'll start about talking against affirmative action or something because it seems you're going towards that direction.

since i made it my business because i wanted to.


i didn't say that, you brought it up.


i think you're drunk now-- and not in a fun way.


i didn't say that, but of course you had to go and change everything


wow, you're really drunk now, or just plain stupid.

i guess we'll find out after the hangover clears.

I'm not drunk.

I'm pointing out to you how people like to 'naturalize" sexism as if it's more acceptable than racism.

I like discussing things, and I'm quite a patient person.
But not to anyone who's quick to start being a jerk or use my gender or gender-specific insults to patronize me.

Oh, and I have a special evil place in my heart for people who enjoy ridiculing feminists.

I wouldn't waste any drunkennes on you.
I've learnt that's a big mistake.

get well soon knox

drink lots of water

funny.

lets be honest here. if you think a few posts on a dead forum are going to damage the cause of 'try making smallest effort to be treat women better' then people must just be looking for excuses to not

the idea that someone should "try to make the smallest effort to treat women better" ASSUMES that the person does not do this already, dig? Hence, it is bullshit, and as presumptuous as can be.

are you home yet? can we talk about the videos?

don't talk about effort.
right now, you're putting a lot more effort into being defensive than you are into doing anything to be helpful.

I LITERALLY HAVE HAD ONE BEER IN 2013 AND I'VE DRANK ALONE IN FRONT OF THE COMPUTER A BUNCH OF TIMES

my grandpa was an alcoholic and listening to him talk was pretty fun, he worked in libya and cuba and knew everything about sports and chess.

if knox is an alcoholic we should chip in to ship her some booze so we can learn interesting and useful facts from her drunk posts

haha, i love you.
i didn't even notice that contradiction there.

on one hand, claiming that speaking up on a message board is useless and does nothing.

on the other hand, claiming that a few posts on a message board can damage an entire cause.

as you know, the advantages of drinking alone at home are many:
- nobody asks you 'do you come here often'
- you play the music you want to hear
- no passing out and waking up with someone touching you
- not having to worry about how you're gonna get home

I highly recommend it.

affirmative action is not really that perfect. while everybody thinks it was bunch of free jobs for black people it's not true because it's white women who benefited most from it because they were seen as a less threatening way to have a diverse workplace

I don't know what kind of affirmative action you're talking about because they can work in many ways and I'm not from North America or something. I was referring to people who speak against any concept of it.
Can't comment on that one.

i don't think so because i think anyone who isn't perfect could possibly find a way to treat women better. i'm a pretty big jerk sometimes so i know i could(and i have made up excuses not to)

but if you're perfect it doesn't apply to you so good job

i'm talking about the USA. which is the place that actually matters because everyone else is communists/muslims

did you see it when it was implied here about me being a commie or something? i took a print and to show it to my friends for a laugh.

i wouldn't recommend it.
it's kind of depressing.

*raises arms then drops them in despair* I don't even know where to start.






I've agreed mostly with everything you've said *fist pump* EXCEPT the billy bear bullshit that's highlighted. Wanting to talk to someone of the opposite sex on a night out is NOT a sexist thing. That's how people meet.

Sure you you might get pissed off but hey that's the nature of clubs/bars etc.

all i got from it is that knox has a personal preference to not meet potentially awful strangers while drunk

bars do suck for men. try being stuck in a dj booth for five hours with all the party girls knowing you can't run away

have you ever tried to tell a woman that her request is stupid and you literally can't play it and wouldn't if you could.

she's gonna say please fifty times and think just because you're a man that you are personally obligated to play the black eyed peas


if they're really drunk they'll start touching things without permission. namely active soundsystems.

and don't get me started on thinking you get to leave a jacket and purse on top of things i'm trying to use, and that i have to be a bodyguard for a strangers bag instead of doing my job.


so drinking home alone sounds pretty good because women are annoying, it isn't really quite as bad as worrying a man is going to kill you though

do you really think 'do you come here often' is a nice conversation starter?
i didn't imply it was sexist, but it's certainly very dull.

i'm all for meeting strangers as long as they're not walking scripts of some movie with adam sandler.

but now that you mention it, i don't think guys have any right to get all annoyed and reply in a rude way when you're not nice to them or give them any room to start a conversation. if you go around talking to strangers, you should have in mind that some of them went out to be with their friends and are not interested.

besides, i have the worst luck. it's usually someone on pills breathing on my neck and whispering how their apartment only a few blocks away.

Yo, pimples, try having fucking vanilla ice rummage through your shit, explaining how he "used to dj in college".

Fuck club dj. I'll do it at home.

what's with americans and towers? we have a tower here, the kind of building nobody cares about locally that americans often visit. because in that culture people make big deals out of towers. like the sky needle which is smaller and less cool than our(majorly boring) tower but more famous.

i never notice the tower at all. but vanilla ice, vince vaughn and many other stars of america show up to buy souvenirs and take a really long elevator ride

HI BABY I'M V-ICE ,COME HERE OFTEN!?!?!?!

i ask girls if they come here often because i work at the same dumb bar once every week so if they don't come here often there's no point of meeting them because i'll never see them again in five minutes if they

i don't recommend it.
when you hear 'come here often' you normally think he's not the kind of person that can make you come often.